Hero or Dick

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Hero or Dick

Hero or Dick, Ep. 9 - Albert Einstein (Aftershow)

August 09, 2023 • Kate & KJ • Season 1 • Episode 9

0:00 | 15:22

WAIT, THERE'S MORE! Stick around after the show for an exclusive behind-the-mics session with Kate and KJ. From everyday life to podcasting shenanigans, our dynamic duo will share what's been happening off the airwaves. Want to get involved? They're eager to hear YOUR thoughts, feedback, and even those burning questions that keep you up at night.

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

Okay, this is a little after hours banter.

SPEAKER_00 0:04

After the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 0:06

After the podcast with KJ and Kate. Hero or Dick. Heroes and Dicks.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Yeah. So first of all, I forgot to give a shout out to one of my favorite people in the world who's not in the world anymore, as Pee-Wee Herman passed away. Oh, devastating. Cherry Cher. Cherry, yeah. Uh yeah, every Saturday morning I can remember Cassidy watching Pee-Wee's Playhouse. Yeah. First of all, it's Muppet Babies. Then Pee Wee's Playhouse. Then maybe Garfield was in there and then Bugs Bunny.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

That was a great morning.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

It was. It was a fantastic morning, especially as a single mom who might like to sleep in a little bit. Or lay on the couch and watch TV. Yeah. But Pee Wee Herman, uh, still one of my favorite movies of all time. Definitely my top 10 is uh Pee Wee's Big Adventure. I I've never watched it. Are you fucking kidding me? And you admitted that? You're not the first person I've heard say that this week either. And I'm like, how are you people even alive?

SPEAKER_01 1:12

I just when I was a kid, I was my mind was blown because the show was really fucking weird. Even as a kid, I'm like, what the fuck is going on? We got talking chairs, cowboy Curtis.

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Cowboy Curtis.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

Samuel Jackson, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:25

Hey, Cowboy Curtis one time. Uh Pee Wee was the other one. No, it was uh um yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:32

No, sorry, Samuel. No, it's the guy from The Matrix.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

Yeah, what's his name? Okay Lawrence Fishburne. Yes, Larry. So he was cowboy Curtis, and one time Pee-wee was having a sleepover, and Cowboy Curtis was kind of embarrassed. He didn't know what to do because he finally admitted that Baby asleep in the nude. This is a good show.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Oh really?

SPEAKER_00 1:57

I can't remember how they resolved that problem, but well, maybe in the movie theater.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

Oh sorry about that. But no, we lost the uh entertainment icon.

SPEAKER_00 2:09

You need to go home and watch that movie.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

I probably won't do that.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

It has so many iconic moments. Um I watched it, I probably watch it once or every year or two. Like a holiday or no, just it's time to watch it again. And I texted my kids, okay, I'm getting ready to watch Pee-wee. What's your favorite part? And they both immediately texted me back, Whoa, this part. I don't remember what parts, but kids still love you.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Isn't that nice? Mine, mine don't.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Well, there's yeah, they'll come around again.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

Sure they will.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

So Pee-wee, we miss you. He was young, he was only 70.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

Isn't that crazy? The only thing you think 70's young?

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Well, for dying, 70 is young.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

And for his lifestyle, he probably could have lived longer. Who knows what he did? He was sick, he had cancer.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

He did, yeah. Yeah. And really the only thing in scandal he had that I know of was he was in uh adult movie theater masturbating. I'm sorry. What do you think happens in those? They're not eating popcorn. We don't know. We all don't have and so you're gonna bust an adult for that, right? That was BS. The best part was like a year later he came to the MTV Music Awards, so that's how long ago was and got on stage and everybody cheered, and then he said, Have you heard any good jokes like that?

SPEAKER_01 3:29

Yeah, I remember that.

SPEAKER_00 3:31

Because there were many, many jokes about it.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

Now, do you think he came up with that himself or his publicist was like, You gotta do something? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 3:37

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 3:38

I want to think he did it.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

I'm beginning to think he did.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

Speaking of, are are we still on Pee-Wee?

SPEAKER_00 3:44

Yeah, we can do talk about Pee-Wee.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

I don't want to, I want to talk about the MTV Music Awards.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:49

Okay, so you know they were R I P Pee Wee. R.I.P. Pee Wee. R.I.P. Pee Wee. Say that fast.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

R I P Pee Wee.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

I can't do it. Anyway, the Moon Man they used to get. Yeah. You know?

SPEAKER_00 3:59

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

Uh Pearl Jam's Moon Man, one of them is for sale right now. I heard it on Lithium. They were talking about it. I just thought that was fascinating because I'm a big Pearl Jam fan. $20,000.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Damn. I know somebody who might buy it.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

I would buy it.

SPEAKER_00 4:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

But when I said that Brooke said no. Well, she knows I won't because you know.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

I mean 20 grand is a lot for a but you think it's a piece of musical history. It is. Mm-hmm. Now, what would you do with it though? Would you put it in the bathroom? Would you start a musical museum?

SPEAKER_01 4:37

I would put it on the dashboard of my forerunner. That would be fun. And just drive around with it on the dashboard?

SPEAKER_00 4:43

On the front. No, no. On the dash.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

I want it inside. So if someone wants to steal it, they have to break the windshield. But and then people be like, they stare at him like that fucking Eddie Better held that. Or maybe not. Maybe somebody in the entourage. But he didn't like that.

SPEAKER_00 4:57

Yeah, so do they just get one to share amongst them? I don't know. And here's the thing. You would have to research that.

SPEAKER_01 5:03

I think it was actually Brendan, whatever his name was their producer. That was his.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

Because I know I have um a friend who just got some backstage passes. He bought them. You know, he he wheels and deals. Hey, Greg. He wheels and deals and stuff like that, and he got backstage passes. And so you wonder well, how many people got these backstage passes? Uh one a couple of them were for a Tom Petty concert, and there were some other concerts like that. But one of them, I at least one of them I know, is a caterer. Well, yeah, they have a backstage pass because they're the caterer. Well, two.

SPEAKER_01 5:41

So if you're in the fan club for a long time, I used to be in the 10 club for Pearl Jam for like a long time. And you would get those, like just because you're a member. I'm not anymore. I've grown past that. But those people also sell that shit.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

Yes. You know? They do. They would, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

So this guy, Greg, he goes to a lot of different concerts or what?

SPEAKER_00 5:59

Well, he does, yeah, but these he actually bought from somebody who had them for sale.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_00 6:05

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

How do we do that?

SPEAKER_00 6:08

Um we could probably just go out.

SPEAKER_01 6:10

We should do our podcast from an event.

SPEAKER_00 6:14

All right. Well, that is coming up. We got the tractor show this weekend and all people.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

Or we could do the fair.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

Oh, no way. I don't care for the fair. I know. Not a fair gal.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

The characters that would show up. We could have a table right there by the rides. And as people come through, we could maybe talk to folks. Ah, we should think about it. Okay. Tractor show would be something else too, but I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

I don't get up. I feel like we would get it. I would help you up.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

Yeah, you would for sure. It's like prison, I don't think I'd make it there either.

SPEAKER_00 6:47

No. No, me either.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

I would actually probably do something horrible so I could be in solitary confinement.

SPEAKER_00 6:53

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Leave me alone.

SPEAKER_00 6:55

That's how you're getting out of it.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

I'm dangerous.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

Or you could go in there and just like be a badass right away. It's kind of like the teacher on the first day of school. If they're not a dick the first day, you get no respect.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

None.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

You probably don't anyway, but.

SPEAKER_01 7:11

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Do you ever want to be a teacher? No. You answer that pretty quick.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

No. I liked tutoring though. I like doing that because it's one-on-one.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

Was it a tutor?

SPEAKER_00 7:21

And usually the people, well, the people I always tutored were uh English, either they couldn't read or had a low-reading adults that couldn't read on a higher scale, or English as a second language. And so you're working one-on-one with somebody and they want to be there.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

What age group?

SPEAKER_00 7:43

Well, the first person I ever tutored, I was about 24 or 5, and he was like a 40-year-old man who graduated from Alpina Public Schools. Sorry, Alpina. And um he couldn't he could only read at a second grade level. Huh. And so I taught him I taught him basic skills. I mean, like, you know, just basic. Here's how you look at a checkbook. Here's how you you know, stuff like that. Well, which is rewarding. Well, that's antiquated now too, looking at a checkbook.

SPEAKER_01 8:21

Now you have to teach them how to buy crypto.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

Yeah. Yeah. Which by the way. I just heard. What did I just hear about crypto?

SPEAKER_01 8:28

Well, PayPal is issued their own USD token, which is great. It's good for the the reputation of crypto. It's becoming mainstream, but the more mainstream it becomes and the government gets their hand on it, the more fucked up it's gonna get. Because if you look at the Ethereum contract that that token is based on, PayPal has the right to freeze your funds or wipe them all out together. It's right there in the code.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

What doesn't seem fair?

SPEAKER_01 8:55

That's because they're aligned with the US government and regulated that PayPal is? Yeah, and don't get me wrong, I would still I love PayPal. I use it for everything because I don't buy my crypto on there. I buy it in strange places.

unknown 9:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

And use a VPN. Just kidding. No, but there's some well, I can't, I don't want to give financial advice, but I would buy some XDC. You have some, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:20

I don't know. We gotta go back to that. This is that's how we started meeting up was to talk about crypto and then not like saying no, we have a podcast about heroes or dicks.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

Heroes or dicks. That was your idea. Kate's idea. Well, it's a great fucking idea.

SPEAKER_00 9:34

It was myself and my daughter Jenna came up with it.

SPEAKER_01 9:37

She was our guest.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

Yes, she was. That was lots of fun. She would love to be a guest again.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

So we'll have to because nobody else will. I've asked my daughter, she kind of eh, I don't think my son could carry out a conversation. And my wife is shy. And I'm all guessed.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

Well, Jenna was happy to do it. I thought she did a great job too.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

She did.

SPEAKER_00 9:59

She's very jovial.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

She sounds jovial. She was a smart person, too.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

She was very uh excited too. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

What is she in town next?

SPEAKER_00 10:10

Uh you know, she's in town on Labor Day weekend.

SPEAKER_01 10:14

I wonder if we should do it.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

We could try. We'll have to we'll have to figure something out.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

How would we do that?

SPEAKER_00 10:21

She could she could sit here with us. Right.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

I mean, just she just won't have these fancy headphones.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

I know, fancy headphones. Maybe I would let her wear my pair.

SPEAKER_01 10:31

What'd you think about that podcast? The Letterman one. He's kind of a dick.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

Um he can't I can see where people think he's a dick and he comes off as a dick.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

Good hearted.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

I think he is very private, and sometimes people step over the line. And because of that, then he kind of has to be rude or come off as rude because it's like step back, man.

SPEAKER_01 10:58

I I liked how he was talking about some of his guests, and he would sometimes just be like, fuck it, I'm gonna give it to him. Yeah, like the one when I remember the one with Joaquin Phoenix. I thought that was all staged in an act. I did too, but it's it doesn't sound like it's just weird.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

Like or he was the at the moment. I don't know what his deal was.

SPEAKER_01 11:16

It was really weird.

SPEAKER_00 11:17

It was weird. I can remember they just sat there the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

Yeah, and if you go back and watch it, it's so uncomfortable. Oh yeah. Who Letterman has had the best musical guests in the fucking world on there. Yes, he has. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

Sometimes before they're famous, too.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Mm-hmm. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

Well, and I think most people respect David Letterman, even if they like share, think he's an asshole.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

You know, but they still would come on there.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

Yeah, those goofballs were like in awe of him, which I guess it might be because you know they're doing the podcast, you got the king of talk shows and talking on there. Uh, but I like to listen to that one when he was talking about how he he's got plenty of tickets speeding, and he got one for like 140, or that's how fast he was going, was 140 in the US, and then 150 on the Audubon. But he loves driving. Uh, and then I didn't know that Jason Bateman, I know we're talking about again, but he he uh he races cars. Did you know that? I didn't know he actually's pretty good at it as well. He was talking about that in one of his wrecked his car, and I think he broke a uh broke a shoulder bone or I don't know what it was, but I'm like, what the fuck? What am I doing with my legs?

SPEAKER_00 12:26

It's like a dangerous hobby to have racing cars. Racing cars.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

My wife does that.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

Races cars.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

Well, stoplight to stoplight.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

Oh she's having her own race.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Oh, she's got that little Porsche car, yeah, Porsche Macau.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

Oh, she can take anybody in town. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Pretty much uh she likes racing these guys in these big trucks that think they're like they think they're hot shit and they just explore it. Yeah, out of here.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

Yeah, bing. One time Jenna and I were at a stoplight in front of Neiman's grocery store, and they just got this brand new digital sign. And the windows were down, so it must have been warm. There were two teens, young guys in a car next to us, and we were reading the sign and it said grapes, 89 cents. And I went, grapes, 89 cents. And the kid goes, You want to race?

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Grapes, right?

SPEAKER_00 13:12

And I'm like, Why is he asking me this old lady? I want to get a kid in the car, yeah. We're gonna race, we're gonna race to um just past them all. And he's like, Okay. What? And we did.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

You raced them.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Like they asked you to race.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

Well, yeah, they thought I was asking them to race. But really, I was saying grapes, 89 cents.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

That's fucking hilarious. What kind of car were you in?

SPEAKER_00 13:34

I was in a red jeep, just plain Jeep. Not Jeep. Who were you with? Uh my daughter Jenna. She was about eight. Oh, that's cool. We won. How old are you? How old were these kids? I don't know. It was like twenties, early twenties. Just two young guys. They're probably hitting on you. No, I don't think so. No, he thought I said you want to race? He was like, Yeah, I want to race. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

So, you know. If you come to the stop sign, if I come up to a stop sign next to Brooklyn, I'm totally racing or you should. In my little whatever I'm driving now.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

I thought you were getting a different car.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

No, I had a loner.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Yeah. But I thought you were thinking about getting another ride.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

Nope, I have a lease till me.

SPEAKER_01 14:19

Oh. Alright. What are you gonna get next?

SPEAKER_00 14:22

I don't know. Get a Porsche. I'm not getting a Porsche. I'm not a crypto bazillionaire.

SPEAKER_01 14:26

You're just a regular bazillionaire. Get a Oh, you'll be fine. Wanna buy a forerunner? I was actually, I love my car.

SPEAKER_00 14:34

The Toyota is a.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

Yeah, and I got a supercharger put on and all this stuff. But the thing is, I love it, but I'm getting older, you know? You don't need it supercharged. I just don't need to be bouncing all over the fucking place. That thing's pretty bouncy. Is it? I love it though.

SPEAKER_00 14:48

And I also am thinking, I don't know I feel like I could fit a lot of stuff in there. You can I don't know if that's good or bad.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

Whatever. Yeah, we use it for everything. We use it all the time. But I was like, man, I don't need nothing that fancy. And I could take that money and put it into crypto.

SPEAKER_00 15:06

And then you can buy another Porsche. Alright, well let's ponder that until the next after the podcast. Well I'm gonna let you know how that works out.

SPEAKER_01 15:17

Fun as usual. We'll sign off.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

Alright, bye.