SPEAKER_01 0:00

What number is it?

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Um welcome everyone. This is number 12? 12. We've done a dozen of these delectable nuggets.

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Hero or dick.

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Hero Ordeck. It's September.

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It's still September, yeah. September 19th.

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19th, and we're broadcasting from across from the donut shop. Horse feathers. Yeah. Studio.

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Lovely downtown Alpina. Which let's start right out. What's going on in downtown Alpina? Or not downtown, but all around Alpina. I don't know. They're filming a movie. No, they're not. They are.

SPEAKER_04 0:37

Is it Die Hard 4?

SPEAKER_01 0:38

No, but I wish it was. I don't think Bruce Willis is doing any more movies. No.

SPEAKER_04 0:44

He's got some things, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_01 0:45

He's got something. I don't know what.

SPEAKER_04 0:47

Parkinson's or yeah, something like that.

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But anyway, no, they're filming a movie, and the movie is called Harson's Island Revenge. And let me tell you what it's about because it's a fascinating subject.

SPEAKER_04 1:00

Wait, now let's stop. First of all, how do you know about it? Do you know the people involved?

SPEAKER_01 1:04

I'm gonna tell you how I know about it in just a minute. I'm gonna keep you on the edge of your seat. So Harson's Island Revenge and the movie, people doing it is Collective Development Inc, I think. Uh CDI, Collective Development Inc., and the movie is about World War I veterans and how they are smuggling it's Prohibition era. So they're smuggling booze on Deharsons Island, which is in Detroit area.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

So they're getting it from Canada, obviously. It's coming right across right across the water. Um, and uh it is their their tangle. The story is about their tangle smuggling and also with Detroit's notorious purple gang, because they were big smugglers. They were like the smugglers, and then these people were this is all real. It's based on a true story, yeah. That's really cool. Yeah, I think I've heard of the purple game. It's a cool story. Um, look up it's based on a book. I don't know the book's name. I tried to buy the book, I can't find it anywhere.

SPEAKER_04 2:14

Well, hopefully you can find the movie when it comes out.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Um you will because the world premiere will be in Alpina, Michigan in 2024 when it comes out.

SPEAKER_04 2:23

All right, cool. So Where is it gonna be, you know?

SPEAKER_01 2:26

At our lovely new theater. I didn't know if they're gonna do it there or at the no, I think it's at the at no, I think it's at the theater. That's really cool. The sanctuary. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_04 2:35

Well, how do you know?

SPEAKER_01 2:36

So what happened was last week uh somebody called us about using the Sentinel, not podcast related, but it should have been, but um about using the Centennial building as a possible uh filming site. Sweet. So uh we talked with them, we met with them, and they love the building because it's old and it's that era, or it can be that era, and so they're filming some scenes this Friday, and then next week they are too. And the film first day of filming was at the museum where they used the uh old Sprat Church in the back as one of the filming places. And guess who was an extra? You I was son of a bitch.

SPEAKER_04 3:28

Thanks for calling me. Hey, are they looking for an old house to use? Come on, I got one of those. You do. Um, that's funny because we went by the uh museum Sunday morning or something. Yes, and it was packed.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

It is, and the reason why it's packed Sunday morning is Spratt Church donated that building. They moved it to the back of the museum years ago. So once a year, Sprat congregation meets there, and of course it was that Sunday where they wanted to film, but so the the congregation was there, they did their church, actual church, in that old Sprat Tavern. I keep saying Sprat Tavern because we could tell you spent some time in the Sprat Tavern, didn't you? Sprat church, the church, and uh so uh they did their church service, and then uh while they were doing that though, they did film some stuff in the woods by them. They made a uh fake still and filmed some wood scenes, and then they filmed that scene um in the in the church.

SPEAKER_04 4:36

Very cool. So they are gonna film in your building.

SPEAKER_01 4:39

They are, they are later this week. They're filming some um so because there's lots of entryways and stuff, um, they're filming some outdoor scenes, I think, this week.

SPEAKER_04 4:52

Are you getting uh and there's some doing this out of the goodness of your heart?

SPEAKER_01 4:55

Yeah, we're just we volunteered everything for the good of Alpina.

SPEAKER_04 4:58

Why wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_01 4:59

Why wouldn't we? It's a good promo for Alpina, and yeah, come and make a movie and we'll donate whatever we can. There are some uh other people who donated a lot of uh goods or services too.

SPEAKER_04 5:12

That's really nice, yeah. And as much as I beg on Alpina, it's a good town.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

It is a good town, and it and you never realize it or you forget about it until somebody comes from somewhere else. And this um this um troupe, I don't know what what do I call them? This business, these people who make movies, it's like the the same people work continually together, and they're most of them are Michigan-based, so they make a lot of movies about Michigan and they film in Michigan a lot.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

That's really nice.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

So, yeah, you gotta give them credit on that. So that's the big haps in Alpina, Michigan.

SPEAKER_04 5:51

Very good.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

Mm-hmm. Has nothing to do with our topic today, which is artificial intelligence. Yeah. I guess you could wrap that into anything.

SPEAKER_04 6:02

Oh yeah, because they you can use AI to write scripts.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

Right. You know, you can use it to for actors. Yeah. Yeah, that's one of the big things, is that isn't that the actors and writers that are on strike, isn't that part of their bitch? Is that you know they're they're gonna take over some of our jobs. And honestly, AI eventually will take over a lot of people's jobs, just like machinery took over a lot of people's jobs, just like robotics took over a lot of people's jobs. So some people see that as a negative, sometimes that could be a positive. You know, one of the things I looked at was um the yes, it can take over your job. Maybe your job is mundane and super boring. Sure, and maybe you got no right, and so you can get another job. Maybe a human can get another job.

SPEAKER_04 6:58

Yeah. No, um, I have that conversation a lot because I'm involved in some projects related to AI and blockchain and all that jazz. And yeah, people are worried about losing their jobs. Yep, some people are going to lose their jobs.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

Well, and I think anytime there's change, and as soon as you say job loss, people freak their shit. They oh no, we don't want to stop making you know horse whips because the car's here. Well, guess what? Everything evolves and changes, so you you have to accept it.

SPEAKER_04 7:27

It's still gonna need a stamp of approval. And I mean, I use it for uh strategy canvases, I use it for content for LinkedIn, for Twitter posts, and other things like that. Um, research, lots of research, but it's only as good as the information you put in at this point.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

And I think that will always be true. Right.

SPEAKER_04 7:47

And you're gonna need a stamp of approval on that. Yeah, AI might be able to do some engineering work, but guess what? You you're still gonna need a real engineer to stamp that and look it over.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Because everything looks good on paper or not on paper, on screen.

SPEAKER_04 8:00

And to that to the writers and whatnot, I happen to write once in a while. Do you? And um do tell. You know what? Yeah, I should start pimping my books on you. You should. Damn it. But anyhow, um I have used it. Like I'll run some writing through it. And it does give good suggestions, or I'll even ask it for an idea. But I still think I'm better than AI in some aspects. You know what I mean? Because it's not doing what I want in my head, it's getting close to it. So I don't think it's ever gonna replicate an individual how they think exactly.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

I don't think so either. And I think, you know, uh the more you tell it, certainly the more it knows, and the closer it gets to that. But there's never you can't you can't take the place of a human. I mean, you just you know machinery. Uh we're not at that point, at least not yet.

SPEAKER_04 8:53

Not yet. And uh think of the things uh you got a list there, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Well, I was just thinking that the AI is in its infancy for sure, and so we don't really know exactly what it will become. Um, but right now it's a tool for sure, and how we use it in the future is really up to us.

SPEAKER_04 9:17

Yep. Um excuse me. I probably should have cracked that soda.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

It is um not quite yet, but it will be, I think, omnipresent in all we do.

SPEAKER_04 9:29

Oh heck yeah. It already is. People don't even realize there's a lot of their when you buy a smart light, that's AI. When you're using uh Siri or Alexa, I hope one doesn't turn on now. Nope. Um that's AI. Yeah. Um technically, when you go to a grocery store and you use the multifaceted camera to scan goods and it generates information, that's AI.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

I mean and gives you coupons or tells you, here, this you like this, this is on sale. That's AI. Um and and like we said, the options that it gives you maybe aren't always correct, but it's going by the information that is given. So it's as good as the information it gets.

SPEAKER_04 10:11

It will help, it does help already. Um, and um, so you don't have to have invasive surgery, you can have scans, you can read all sorts of information. They can help people that people that haven't been able to talk or hear or see or walk.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

Yeah, that it is amazing. The medical part of it is amazing.

SPEAKER_04 10:30

Of course, the same people that say, Oh, it's going to take a job are the same people that are afraid of it uh because it's gonna destroy the world and it's gonna get into my checking account.

SPEAKER_01 10:41

I don't have any money in the world.

SPEAKER_04 10:43

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

It's just AI, give me some money.

SPEAKER_04 10:45

Everything everything has a downside.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

Well, and I think people uh when you think of AI, the first thing that comes to mind uh for me anyway is a lot of research. So um, oh my gosh, people are using it instead of writing papers and doing their own research. Well, uh somewhat, but you still have to still have to do the research. You still have to do it. It gives you information. Use what you do with it is up to you.

SPEAKER_04 11:15

It's just an instantaneous encyclopedia.

SPEAKER_01 11:17

It is, and is there you know, is there something wrong with that?

SPEAKER_04 11:20

No, and uh the ones online, uh the ones I use like chat GPT and Claude AI, they only I believe go back to 2021 or 22 on the internet, so they're not getting real-time data yet because it's not there yet.

SPEAKER_01 11:35

Because it's not there yet, yeah. And I think people worry about copycat, copyright. You know, um, is somebody going to steal your story that you had and and make it their own because they found it through AI? Could they still and you get into a whole ethics thing too? Some people, just like everything else in the world, not everybody will use it for good. Some people will use it for oh, you're guaranteed right now.

SPEAKER_04 12:05

People are trying to figure out ways to get into people's checking accounts and whatever. So, by the way, if you want to send a donation, get it.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

We're we're not send it to our IA.

SPEAKER_04 12:16

Um, what else you got there?

SPEAKER_01 12:20

Um uh well it is on the it was on the Senate floor last week because they want regulations, regulations, we need to watch it. We didn't regulate. I can't remember what their example was. We didn't regulate something and now it's gone crazy, so we must regulate. Maybe it is was crypto. I can't remember.

SPEAKER_04 12:40

All they want to do is they don't want to regulate, they want to slow it down enough and get their hands in it so they can start stuff in their pockets, right? They want the AI stocks, they want to regulate IP is is a different definition and different things.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

How are you gonna regulate it? So, why do you want to regulate it? Money, yeah, it usually is.

SPEAKER_04 12:59

They say they're out there for the consumers and the citizens. Oh, this is my bad side coming out now, but they're full of shit. They just do not want people to have control, freedom, etc. etc. That's enough from me. They sound like been spoiled.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Um, when we when we first decided to do AI, so two weeks ago, um, that day I heard that uh IA song that was they say IA.

SPEAKER_04 13:25

You did.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

That's all right. Something different, probably. I don't know. We'll have to look it up. AI. Uh AI song made it, it was made to sound like Drake and the Weekend. I think it was called Heart on My Sleeve, and it was under Grammy uh consideration. So I was like, oh God, that's you know, is that good? I don't know. If I was the weekend or Drake, I'd be pissed about it. That's my sound. That's my and you're you really are copying it.

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Right.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

So before I could even research that, uh I found out that never mind, they changed their minds and said they it would not be eligible because the vocals were not legally obtained.

SPEAKER_04 14:10

Well, no shit. You'd think they'd know that.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

You would think before they you know made that.

SPEAKER_04 14:14

But headlines, you know.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:17

Um, some other things with AI, which I think I've talked to you about this before, but not in this grand forum that we have. Um, they are able to or will be able to use AI to do things, like obviously run a city. So, like if an electric car that runs on AI pulls up to an intersection, and other cars cars have AI, you don't need traffic lights because maybe the you know you have your route planned in, the other person has theirs planned in, and these cars aren't gonna hit each other at the intersection, you don't need stoplights, it's gonna be like automatic moving in the same city. Um, the trees will be have AI embedded into them somehow with a chip or whatnot, and the city will have access to what the tree needs, and the tree will tell them I need more light, I need more water, I have a disease. This is stuff that's actually they're testing now in some places. I think that's fascinating, you know. Yeah, that is. Use AI and so uh check the quality of the river uh water or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

I mean, um I liked what you said about trees talking because it reminded me um of one of the things that I uh watched was a TED talk about how they're talking, in quotes, to animals.

SPEAKER_04 15:34

The trees?

SPEAKER_01 15:35

So no, not the trees, the AI lets animals tell humans what they need or want, or or leave me alone, or whatever. But they can they can better communicate with animals that don't speak our language.

SPEAKER_04 15:52

That's fascinating.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

That was fascinating.

SPEAKER_04 15:55

But I was just thinking trees talk now, right?

SPEAKER_01 15:58

Well, I mean, if it's droopy, it needs water, right?

SPEAKER_04 16:01

Mm-hmm. So there's some kind of signal that's probably being I'm just trying to think of it. I see you looking at that tree like it's gonna start talking to you. I'm waiting at it for it. I don't think it has AI yet. Should we ask it to come in? It could probably would you like to put your two sunslips in there? It could probably uh get to the point where we are all communicating trees, animals, whatever. The jackass that drives by in his truck at my house every morning really loud.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

There flax on the back. Maybe you can uh somehow use AI to get him to stall right before he gets to your house.

SPEAKER_04 16:36

One day, you know what? Social scoring is gonna be part of AI.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

So is that evil or good?

SPEAKER_04 16:42

It's gonna be interesting.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Depends on what if you're in the truck or in the house.

SPEAKER_04 16:46

Let's say uh you roll a stop sign or you cut someone off, and that person can lower your social score pretty soon, or your insurance company will know everything. You know what I mean? It's like you're going to have a social score based on artificial intelligence information. I like that though. Oh, I'm sure yours would be okay. How often do you flip people off when you're driving?

SPEAKER_01 17:06

I'm not gonna say because AI will tell the truth. So you do it quite a few times. No, I don't weekly. I I swear at them very loud in the comfort of my own car. A car, yeah. And you know, sometimes when you're driving, you're like, Am I invisible today? I just feel like I'm invisible. People are pulling out, or you know, uh yeah, it's like you're driving in a visible car.

SPEAKER_04 17:28

But do you think AI and social scoring, things like that could improve like your experience in Walmart? Because the people that are clustered fucked in an aisle.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

I will never, never improve my experience in Walmart. Meyer? Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 17:43

Yeah, and what is it with Walmart?

SPEAKER_01 17:46

I don't know. I'm I'm not pro-Walmart.

SPEAKER_04 17:48

No, it's like there's a county fair in the behind Walmart, and it just lets people in through the back door all the time.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

In their pajamas.

SPEAKER_04 17:55

In their pajamas.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

Yeah. And I'm not saying you have to get dressed up, but put some pants on. And don't wear your slippers. You're wearing your slippers in Walmart, and then you're going home and wearing your slippers. That's gross. That's gross. I don't care if you believe in AI or are you or what?

SPEAKER_04 18:11

Are you uh uh in the hotel room? Are you a person that won't put your suitcase on the bed?

SPEAKER_01 18:15

I do not. Okay, I do not because I have um my daughter Cassidy in hospitality and I hear some horror stories. Yeah. Uh most of the time it's fine, you know, at least where I'm staying, but I've been in some really sketchy hotel rooms.

SPEAKER_04 18:30

So you're like always wearing socks.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

I wear slippers or my shoes.

SPEAKER_04 18:36

Yeah, what am I doing? I shouldn't wear my socks and go to bed with those on.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

Oh no, yeah. Shit. Oh god, that's this gross.

SPEAKER_04 18:44

But AI perhaps could help with that too. How? Well, I don't know, behavior, you know. AI will be able to tell if you're peeing in the pool.

SPEAKER_01 18:53

That would be a pay. I don't go in pools, let alone.

SPEAKER_04 18:56

You don't go in pools.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Not pools are hot tubs. Hot tubs are like big suspools of germs. Okay. You know, that's your own germs. That's your own germs. You're you're living with those every day.

SPEAKER_04 19:11

But you're really going to holiday in or wherever and jumping in that tub with no, you're just asking for gosh, you shouldn't have said Cassidy's name because we could have had her on as an anonymous tipster for the hospitality industry. Oh man, how about you? She's got stories.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Oh, she does have some stories, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Shit.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

We could do we can do a podcast on there. Are you listening, Cassidy? We'll do it. So, one other thing I wanted to mention though was um I listened to a great podcast. It's always good, but this time it was on AI. They actually had three of them. I only listened to the last one. Uh Freakonomics podcast. I love Freakonomics, they just make sense of everything. Um, and he was using Chat GPT four. Was there a four behind that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:04

Sometimes I got four. There's three and a half and four. He paid for four.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

He used four, and he was looking just for, you know, he's like, Well, I'm just gonna try it while I'm while I'm podcasting. Let's type it in, see what happens. I'm looking for a business idea in upstate New York or Vermont or wherever he was, somewhere on the East Coast, small town, and I'm looking for a business idea, and this is what I like. He put in his likes, and they're like, How about a stationary store? And he's like, Oh my god, I love stationary. I'm really a geek about all those pens and papers. And and so it gave him all these ideas, and he's like, Wow, they're just popping up so quick. You could do a vintage store, you could do uh he liked he was a NASA nerd, he said. So it it offered a space-related stationary story. He's like, That's pretty damn specific, but all right, maybe I would love it, but I don't think anybody else would. Yeah, so it just he said, just looking at these, no, I'm not gonna use every idea, but it's really getting my mind moving on it. And I really like the vintage, um, the vintage stationary idea. Um, I don't think he actually opened a store, but I would go to it if he did. So I like that portion of it. It really made him start thinking, and it was like um uh, you know, like a think tank between him and AI.

SPEAKER_04 21:31

Yeah, oh, for sure. Yeah, you keep drilling down and drilling down. I was using it to help uh Julian with college choices because he's got a shit ton of them he's looking at, and they're interested in him, thank God. But so what I did is I said, Hey, I'm a 17 year old, I'm from L Pina. This is my GPA, this is my background, this is what my parents do. Like take in all that information, put that in, and say, I'm looking to study business sports management. I'm interested in running track, playing soccer, both or one or the other. Uh, I want a school this size. I want to make sure there's 75% women at the college.

SPEAKER_03 22:05

Just kidding.

SPEAKER_04 22:06

But anyway, so I put that all in and bam, created a list. And some of them already matched with what the schools we had picked. And then I asked it to do a point system based on those categories and then rank them. And it did. In like I'm talking seconds.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

Yeah. So you could have done all that research.

SPEAKER_04 22:23

Not in seconds, though.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

But not in seconds.

SPEAKER_04 22:25

And it makes you think of more stuff every time.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

It's gonna come up with ones. Yeah, maybe you don't need a NASA stationery store. But why not? I mean, maybe we do, we and we don't know it.

SPEAKER_04 22:37

How are you with cooking? You like cooking? Yeah, it's I like to eat. Okay, me too. So I know a few people they use AI. Uh, they come home, they can't have an idea. They just here's my ingredients. Here are my ingredients, and bam, you get recipes.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

That's a nice thing. Yes. That is a root. See, that's doing some good.

SPEAKER_04 22:54

But then you gotta think who's putting the information to the AI? And are they going to eventually make me buy craft cheese by recommending cheese? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 23:06

Because they're working for it.

SPEAKER_04 23:08

Yeah, and like, okay, so I've got some I've got some mayo milk, eggs, and whatever in my fridge. Well, is the United Association of Egg Sellers gonna be pushing AI, say, make something with the eggs?

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Yeah. Maybe. Maybe they'll sponsor. Damn. But don't they do that already? Kind of?

SPEAKER_04 23:26

Yeah, they do.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

I mean, they're just not doing it in seconds.

SPEAKER_04 23:29

Do we care anyway?

SPEAKER_01 23:31

I mean, it's okay with me if they suggest it. I don't know. What are they gonna how are they gonna uh um um ruin the world by telling me what to eat with this just those ingredients? I mean, how can that be evil?

SPEAKER_04 23:49

I don't know. I picked up if you get money involved and they're pushing a certain agenda.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

And if you only eat eggs, then you're like, well, so all I'm gonna eat is eggs.

SPEAKER_04 23:58

And if you have somebody that hates people that eat chicken and eggs, they're not gonna want AI to have that.

SPEAKER_01 24:06

Maybe the vegans of the world.

SPEAKER_04 24:08

There'll be a vegan AI. They're probably a Catholic AI. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

Now you're putting religion into it, that can get evil.

SPEAKER_04 24:17

Man, oh man. See, that's what's going on. Yeah. People are worried. But then think of that. AI for marriage. You and your wife, husband, spouse, partner, life partner, whatever. Sit down. And I wonder, you can each put your you know what, this is how I'm feeling, AI. And this is how my wife's feeling, AI. What can we do to make this work? Brooke and I would never have to use it because you know, we don't find out.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

But some people you know what I mean, that would be interesting to see. I want you and Brooke to try it now, just to see. Just to see what it comes up with. Yeah. It'll probably come up with, you know, open the NASA store or the Probably move to move to a Caribbean island.

SPEAKER_04 25:03

You know, I don't know if we're we want to do that anymore.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

No. Mix them. It's hot.

SPEAKER_04 25:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

Climate change. There's another. Yeah. Let's not get into that. AI could fix that. It could probably give us some ideas how to fix it or make it worse.

SPEAKER_04 25:20

Kill the humans.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

Here are the my two main points on AI.

SPEAKER_04 25:25

Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Okay. AI will change everything. And right now we don't know how it will change everything. Boop. How?

SPEAKER_04 25:41

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

That's it.

SPEAKER_04 25:43

I agree.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

And if I had to choose hero or dick for AI, I would say, huh, it's too soon to tell, but I think it's so far it's good, has outweighed its bad. And I know there's lots of people who would uh argue that point. But I say use some AI research and then come back to me.

SPEAKER_04 26:08

Yep, I agree. I think that I try to encourage people at work and normal life to use it because I think that it can really cut down on task work. And it it makes you think more, it gets you deeper into stuff. People think it's just doing the work for you.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

It's not thinking for you, it's making you think more or harder or deeper.

SPEAKER_04 26:31

Right on.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_04 26:33

I think it's a hero. Especially when I I watch these videos where it's helping people who have never talked or walked or walked or yeah, the medical part of it is amazing. But okay, I don't think we can do our fast five, but I've had some requests that we should have five or ten minutes of normal banter.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

Oh, okay. Well, let's do the fast five and maybe that'll lead to it.

SPEAKER_04 26:54

Talk about my bunions. That sounds even roaster.

SPEAKER_01 26:59

As totally, totally not my topic of five fast five. So today, fast five, because it's you know, there's Halloween candy out. There is a hierarchy of Halloween candy. I'm only gonna talk about retro candy. Because you know, when your kids go trick-or-treating, I haven't been trick-or-treating for many years, so I equate it to when my kids went trick-or-treating. You always went, uh we would always go to my mom and dad's last, and my dad would take all the peanut butter cups because that's his thing. Sure. My mom knew that and she'd she'd replenish too, but it was their thing, you know, for him to rift through and get all the peanut butter cups, and then my mom's giving him peanut butter cups on the way out. So I I mean, I don't mean that hierarchy of candy because we know people love Snickers. I don't love them, but Snickers and MMs and that, you know, the brand ones. I'm talking retro candy. And the first one, number one, is candy corn. Is it a hero or a dick? Hero. Okay, see, I don't like pure sugar.

SPEAKER_04 28:06

It is pure sugar, granulated with the colour.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

I like the way it looks. It looks kind of it looks like fall. You're like, yay, candy corn.

SPEAKER_04 28:13

Funny thing with candy corn is you can only eat so many.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

It's not like that sounds like a challenge for those who like candy corn.

SPEAKER_04 28:21

Well, like I could sit down and eat like a lot of those little Hershey miniatures or Skittles.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Oh, yeah, Skittles.

SPEAKER_04 28:28

But candy corn, a handful of do you have for that?

SPEAKER_01 28:31

Oh, okay. Now I am told that some people like to mix candy corn. This is the mix, either with peanuts and MMs. And then I have a friend who mixes candy corn with the red hats.

SPEAKER_04 28:48

No kidding.

SPEAKER_01 28:49

And I don't like candy corn, but I do like red hots. And I did try that combo, and I have to say, I liked candy corn in that instance. With red hot. With red huts. You do one candy corn, one red hot.

SPEAKER_04 29:02

You tried it.

SPEAKER_01 29:03

I tried it, it was good.

SPEAKER_04 29:05

Awesome. I'm gonna try it.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

Okay, here we're dick, circus peanuts.

SPEAKER_04 29:10

Oh, fudge. Um, try not to say the other word as much as I do, sorry. I texted you that word earlier today. Fudge? No, the other one. Oh. I and I it was like natural because I was speaking it. And I looked, I'm like, there I go again. Anyway, circus peanuts added.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

Circus peanuts, uh, I'm gonna say dick dicks. Little orange dicks.

SPEAKER_04 29:35

I mean, what is it?

SPEAKER_01 29:36

I think that people either love them or hate them, and there's fewer people on the earth that love them because I think it's a generational thing. And maybe these people didn't have any good candy, so they were digging on the circus peanuts.

SPEAKER_00 29:49

I don't know. They're cool kind of cool.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

They're not peanuts.

SPEAKER_04 29:52

No, they're not.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

No. They're they're not cool. I mean, it sounds like it'd be cool.

SPEAKER_04 29:57

It's listen, I'm gonna get some circus peanuts.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

Sounds like you're grabbing them off the the ground at a circus.

SPEAKER_04 30:05

The elephant spit them out.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

Okay, how about Tootsie Rolls?

SPEAKER_04 30:10

Oh, come now. I love Tootsie Rolls.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

Oh, I say dick. What?

SPEAKER_04 30:15

Because whatever it is I think I see becomes a Tootsie Roll to me.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Oh, nice. You like that? I didn't remember it till now, but yeah. And the owl?

SPEAKER_04 30:27

A one? A two.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

A three. A tootsie pop, but it's a Tootsie Pop. It's not a Tootsie Roll.

SPEAKER_04 30:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Not a Tootsie Roll. Uh, because I like those Tootsie Pops. I don't like Tootsie Rolls. When you Tootsie Rolls, you're just I had to take out a tooth, so that's all I'm gonna say. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:45

How long ago was this?

SPEAKER_01 30:46

It was a long time ago, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 30:48

Well, you lose a teeth that far along?

SPEAKER_01 30:49

No, well, on Tootsie Rolls. Holy shit. Not a whole tooth. This is a cat.

SPEAKER_04 30:53

Is this just in the original Tootsie Rolls? Yeah, the little ones. Okay. Do you like the flavored ones?

SPEAKER_01 30:59

Uh no.

SPEAKER_04 31:01

The fruit ones? No. You really hate those Tootsie Rolls.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

I really do. Yeah, I'm not into them. Some people love them.

SPEAKER_04 31:07

Try it with a red hat.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

You should. Maybe that's the thing. Or a circus boot. Okay, this one doesn't go as far back. How about Pop Rocks?

SPEAKER_04 31:19

They're unpredictable.

SPEAKER_01 31:21

They're unpredictable? Oh, see, I think they're a hero because they're because they're unpredictable. Okay. I'll let you have it. I mean, who puts all that stuff in their mouth on those pop rocks? I'm gonna do it. Don't remember, don't forget. You feel like you're gonna die. People didn't really die. It was the urban legend.

SPEAKER_04 31:37

Mikey, the life kid, obviously died from Coca-Cola and Pop Rocks. We've been told that forever.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

No, ask Jason Bateman. It didn't really happen in the 80s.

SPEAKER_04 31:46

Bateman was.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

Pop rocks, though. Pop rocks, I say hero because. What else explodes in your mic like that?

SPEAKER_04 31:53

I'm changing it. I'm gonna go to Gary. Because you're right. Yeah. That's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

I'm glad it could sway you.

SPEAKER_04 31:58

Who came up with that though? I don't know. That was put some shit in some kids' mouth and make it go back.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

It had to be an accident, right?

SPEAKER_04 32:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:05

Yeah. It wasn't like a planned thing. It was like, oh, oh, uh-oh. Hey, oh, this is working.

SPEAKER_04 32:11

It doesn't seem like something you'd sit down to design. But I wonder if we asked Chat GPT.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

Well, we should. You should do it right now.

SPEAKER_04 32:17

Make something. What could we make similar to Pop Rocks that would, you know, make us millionaires?

SPEAKER_01 32:23

Okay, we'll research that. How about here's a this one's a pretty old candy. It's a penny candy. Did you have a place you could buy penny candy?

SPEAKER_04 32:32

Woody's on Long Rapids Road, remember?

SPEAKER_01 32:34

Yeah, yeah, Woody's Resort. Yep. So they probably had these uh So did wait, wait.

SPEAKER_04 32:39

Sorry. Cathroad General Store, remember that? Oh they did. Dick and Sandy ran that place. Yeah. Oh shit, that was great.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

Yeah, that was that was a true country store. Yeah, and had the little everything.

SPEAKER_04 32:50

Yeah. And I remember they had the glass counter with all the candy and stuff in it.

SPEAKER_01 32:55

Yeah. They did have that was a true country store. Dang. And I bet they had Mary Jane's. What? Mary Jane's? Oh shit. And the squirrels. I loved those together.

SPEAKER_04 33:06

Wait, did you just throw two on the list? I did. Okay, that's all right.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 33:10

And uh so I don't think taste wise. The look on your face at all. No, necko waivers.

SPEAKER_04 33:20

But they're not really dicks either. Necko wavers.

SPEAKER_01 33:22

Necko waivers have no flavor. But I will eat them anyway.

SPEAKER_04 33:26

Those pop bottle.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

Well, I like a pop bottle. Pop caps or bottle caps.

SPEAKER_04 33:31

Bottle caps and then the actual bottle, wax bottle.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

Oh, wax. Anything wax when you're a kid. Yeah, chomp on that. Wax, everything. Wax lids.

SPEAKER_04 33:38

No flavor.

SPEAKER_01 33:39

No. Just chomp on it. Lasts long time. You know, there's no flavor. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:44

I have a good memory related to this. Oh, wait, you're not done, are you?

SPEAKER_01 33:46

Uh no, go ahead, because I just have one more honorable mention.

SPEAKER_04 33:51

Well, it's candy-related, because remember um some my cousins and I. We used to get picked up. We'd go with Uncle Joe or somebody, whoever. We'd go out to the strawberry fields and we'd pick strawberries, and then we'd ride in the back of the pickup all the way up to the heron.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

That's exciting right there. And illegal.

SPEAKER_04 34:10

To the 7-Eleven over by, you know, where Diamonds Point is. And we'd have our money, you know, two or three dollars. And go in. Make a strawberries.

SPEAKER_01 34:17

And buy uh with that. Nerds. Usually nerds. Oh. That's not really retro, but um yeah, they've been around a while, nerds. You know, I love a nerd blizzard from DQ. Yeah, I got one accidentally and it was pretty delicious. Usually you go chocolate or caramel or whatever, but a nerd in a Skittle.

SPEAKER_04 34:41

I like the uh um nerd's jelly bean things. You know what I'm talking about? They're like jelly beans, but they have nerds like around the outside. I just ate some on the way in.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Oh sorry.

SPEAKER_04 34:52

Anyway, what's your honorable mention?

SPEAKER_01 34:53

The honorable mention isn't really a candy, but it is a retro uh treat, and it's animal crackers. Oh legendary, legendary, so hero. I say if they're frosted, they're heroes. If they're and if they're in that little circus box, I don't even like a circus, but you know, you don't get a little box, you know.

SPEAKER_04 35:13

Just the look on your face when you say circus. We really gotta add a camera to this.

SPEAKER_01 35:18

Must have been a different life. I don't know how you got through the P.T.

SPEAKER_04 35:20

Barnum thing.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

It wasn't easy. Wasn't easy. So again, frosted animal crackers. Yeah, yum. That's a true treat. Plain ones, I don't know. It's a cracker.

SPEAKER_04 35:33

Yeah, really poofy. What came in the elephants, monkeys, camel?

SPEAKER_01 35:41

A camel.

SPEAKER_04 35:42

My favorite. Bump off it. Hump, bump.

SPEAKER_01 35:45

The bump hump? The bump hump. How about this was another one that um was discussed when I was uh considering what to do for fast five is burnt peanuts.

SPEAKER_04 35:57

Those aren't bad.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

That was a grandma treat at my at my grandma's the little red things. If you were lucky, so she had a stash, like a candy jar stash, and I have a candy jar, so that's fun. But it was like not out in the open, it was stash, but I knew where it was. Sure. So if it was a good day and you look in there, peanut MMs.

SPEAKER_04 36:19

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 36:20

But if it was not as good of a day, it was burnt peanuts.

SPEAKER_04 36:24

I'd still eat them. Sure, why not? You know, it's the stash. It's the stash. You know, god, you're bringing back all kinds of memories for me now.

SPEAKER_01 36:30

What do you got for burnt peanuts?

SPEAKER_04 36:32

Not burnt peanuts, but the stash. My grandma Stevens, they lived over by Sunny Sunnyside Dairy used to be in a big old farmhouse, and we'd go there on every Sunday after we go to my other grandma's. But anyhow, you know, she had this tall cupboard in the kitchen, and back on just eye level for us kids, probably on purpose, there was this yellow Tupperware container with two metal latches on the side. And I remember you go in there and you could get a handful of Hershey miniatures most of the time. Sometimes during the holidays, the kisses, kisses with the different colors, but man, I always remember that. And she would let us have, and my parents hated this. Each could have one bottle, 16-ounce bottle, glass bottle of Pepsi Cola. Wow, Mountain Dew.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

Or Mountain Dew. And it had probably had that hillbilly on there.

SPEAKER_04 37:21

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 37:21

Yeah. Yes. Yeah, we used to. I used to buy that with my lunch money.

SPEAKER_04 37:25

God dang, memories.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

Bottle of Mountain Dew. And you freeze those. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_04 37:30

Wonderful.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

That was really good.

SPEAKER_04 37:32

I loved it during football season because I used to watch football there with my aunt Jerry, and you'd pop the uh um top off. And at that time, the NFL teams would have helmets on there, you know. I don't know if they still do that, but probably not.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

They probably got a code.

SPEAKER_04 37:46

I collect them. Mm-hmm. We're getting our banter in, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 37:50

All right. Well, what else do we got?

SPEAKER_04 37:53

I gotta do my fast five. Oh, yeah. Oh, I say hero for burnt peanuts? I say all those candies except for circus peanuts are probably heroes. And you know, circus peanuts are probably a hero because now I go back to way back in the day. That probably was a big deal for some kid.

SPEAKER_01 38:07

Right. Some people love them, and like I said, I think it's generational because they didn't have other options.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 38:14

So in that time, it was probably great. But we don't have to everything's relevant anymore. No.

SPEAKER_04 38:21

Context.

SPEAKER_01 38:22

And timely, yes.

SPEAKER_04 38:24

Okay. Okay, fast five. Mine aren't that fascinating. Ready?

SPEAKER_01 38:29

Well.

SPEAKER_04 38:35

Lightning.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

I like lightning. I'm gonna say hero.

SPEAKER_04 38:39

Is it really?

SPEAKER_01 38:39

Sometimes it's scary. But that's okay.

SPEAKER_04 38:42

What does it do though?

SPEAKER_01 38:43

And because be behind that comes the thunder. And then you know you're getting uh do the counting thing. Oh yeah. Yeah, you have to.

SPEAKER_04 38:52

One one thousand, two one thousand.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

I don't know how true it is. And we used to get so many thunder lightning storms, and now they're few and far between.

SPEAKER_04 39:01

You get to see them come right over the lake.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

They don't we don't see them though. They don't they don't happen.

SPEAKER_04 39:07

Sitting out on your deck eating circus peanuts waiting for the storm to come.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

We're eating burnt peanuts.

SPEAKER_04 39:11

Burnt peanuts. So lightning. I don't know, I guess I'll say it's a hero. I just I just don't understand.

SPEAKER_01 39:21

It's giving us electricity, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 39:24

Something to look at. You think about beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 39:27

Think of all the lightning pictures that you've seen. That's true. None of them are you go, pfft, look at that, lightning, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 39:33

How many people get struck by lightning, you think?

SPEAKER_01 39:35

Uh I don't know, but it happens.

SPEAKER_04 39:37

You don't come back from that usually very well.

SPEAKER_01 39:40

No, you don't. One time I was driving out by your parents' house on Catharow Road years ago. I had baby Cassidy with me, and um lightning struck. I was just turning on Irwin Road, and lightning struck in that field, right. I mean, like right there. Thought I was gonna die.

SPEAKER_04 39:57

That's not good. No, I saw a fucking UFO in that same field.

SPEAKER_01 40:00

Really? Maybe because of the lightning. I saw northern lights right there too. They were beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 40:06

To the you're coming and you're turning left. That's the field on the left, right?

SPEAKER_01 40:10

Um well. I saw it on the right, but I know what field you just trust us.

SPEAKER_04 40:16

Maybe I'll save it for the next thing, but maybe that should be our next thing. Okay. Hero dick about Upo. Because I saw that Yuppo, and then I told my parents about it. My mom thought I was nuts. And then mom saw it with me a couple weeks later.

SPEAKER_01 40:30

Am I crazy now, mom? Well, okay, well, let's jump back down.

SPEAKER_04 40:33

So, anyway, all right. Uh, the next thing I can't read. Hold on. It says, Oh, those phony spare tires that they give you for cars now that aren't the real size.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

You know, you know, give me a real tire. Yeah, give me a real tire. I have bought a car before because the spare was a real tire sold. Did you? And and give me a damn bumper. You know, why did we put bumpers on cars? Cars didn't automatically when they first came out, they didn't have bumpers on. Let's put some bumpers on in case something bumps into it. Then we won't have to replace the whole car. Now, if you get hit, if your bumper gets hit, two thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_04 41:16

Maybe more.

SPEAKER_01 41:16

Or more. I mean, it's even right off the bat, it's two thousand dollars. Well, what? But that's what a bumper's for.

SPEAKER_04 41:24

Yeah, I'll pay extra for the bumper.

SPEAKER_01 41:26

I say spare tire. Give me a real tire.

SPEAKER_04 41:29

Dick. Yeah, those little baby ones. Brooke's grandma uh Brooke tells a great story about how she used to drive with her grandma and her grandma's kind of like, oh, all the time. Just okay, honey, you know. And uh she was pulling in or out of a parking spot, parallel parking, and boonk, book, book, you know, bumping the cars back. And Brooke goes, Grandma, what do you do? She's like, Well, honey, they're bumpers. That's what they're doing.

SPEAKER_00 41:51

That's what they're for.

SPEAKER_04 41:53

I love that. That's a great story. She tells it better. Brooke, why don't you call in something? All right, mechanical pencils.

SPEAKER_01 42:01

Um, I got nothing against them.

SPEAKER_04 42:03

I don't like them.

SPEAKER_01 42:04

No? Why?

SPEAKER_04 42:05

They're plastic, they're wasteful. You can get a good, what do you how do you say that word?

SPEAKER_01 42:09

Ticonderoga.

SPEAKER_04 42:10

That one.

SPEAKER_01 42:11

That's a good pencil.

SPEAKER_04 42:12

You just buy a wooden pencil.

SPEAKER_01 42:14

I do prefer a wooden pencil over it. Although if you need really detailed, tiny tiny maybe, but I say dick for those two.

SPEAKER_04 42:26

Soup.

SPEAKER_01 42:26

Oh, hero all day long. I mean, there's a couple kinds that are not heroes. Cabbage. Uh depends. It depends on who makes it and what's in it. But overall, soup is absolutely a hero. That's no doubt.

SPEAKER_04 42:43

I I got a weird thing with soup. I love soup. But here's the thing. Soup makes me angry. Because I have no idea. It makes me like I eat it and I'm starting to like it.

SPEAKER_01 42:55

Because you're still hungry?

SPEAKER_04 42:56

No. Like it changes my mood. The kids in Brooke know it too. For having soup, like, oh no, dad's gonna get angry. And I don't know if it's maybe sodium content or tot. But by the time I'm done, I just want to.

SPEAKER_01 43:09

Maybe it goes back to a childhood memory and you were having soup and it wasn't a good time. Could have been. We could explore that. Or you could just eat some happy soup.

SPEAKER_04 43:21

Holy shit, could you use AI for therapy?

SPEAKER_01 43:23

I I bet you could. Why couldn't you?

SPEAKER_04 43:25

I know what I'm doing tonight.

SPEAKER_01 43:27

All right.

SPEAKER_04 43:27

Soup therapy. Soup. So I wanted to find out why I don't like soup. I love soup, but it makes me angry. Okay. Funerals.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

Um, I'm not into them.

SPEAKER_04 43:39

I don't like them.

SPEAKER_01 43:40

No. Nobody does, but I don't think that's true. Well, no, I don't think that's true either. I think some people do like them. But I do think that funeral directors. Uh yeah, they love them. Um, I think some people need them to have closure, but I think funerals are for the living, not for who died. No matter what they say or plan, if they plan a funeral and pay for it, all right, you can have it. But if somebody dies in in, you know, it's up to the people left, sure. Funeral or not. And I think uh especially since COVID, the trend has be been to not do a big whoop-de-doo funeral anymore. And that's fine.

SPEAKER_04 44:19

I think so. And I I wonder sometimes the people who need to have that closure, if they maybe should have worked on some shit probably while the people were alone.

SPEAKER_01 44:27

Yeah, probably, yeah. And a lot of times too, you go to the funeral home and death brings out the worst in people, the living people. You know, you get you get like people families are fighting, and oh I I I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 44:43

Why do that? It's a high, high stress stress situation, anyway. Nobody wants to go there, and then you're forcing people to go there that haven't seen each other in a while. Some people blame other people for this, that, and the other thing.

SPEAKER_01 44:54

And then, hey, let's all go to lunch after. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 44:58

Oh, the best thing is maybe afterwards just all get drunk together. That makes it better.

SPEAKER_01 45:02

Oh, yeah, that that doesn't play into the family fighting at all. No, no, no. So overall, dick.

SPEAKER_04 45:08

Dick, yeah. Dick. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 45:10

Memorial, have a memorial, maybe whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:13

Okay. A little party, maybe, with just a few people.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

A few people.

SPEAKER_04 45:17

All right. Well, we've gone over.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

All right. Okay. Well, thanks for listening to Hero or Dick.

SPEAKER_04 45:23

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 45:23

You can always email us. We would love to get an email from somebody. Yeah. Hero or dick2023 at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_04 45:30

Right on.

SPEAKER_01 45:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 45:32

All right. Thanks, everybody.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

See you next time.

SPEAKER_04 45:33

Bye bye.

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