SPEAKER_01 0:01

Welcome.

unknown 0:03

Hey.

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Here we are again.

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Here we are at our podcast. Hero or dick.

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Mm-hmm. This is KJ.

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And Kate.

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We're rocking it out from Horsefeathers Studio in downtown Alpina, which, by the way, is wrapping up the filming of a movie that Kate has been involved in very closely.

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Parsons Island Revenge. Look for it in about a year.

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You think it's going to be straight to YouTube or what?

SPEAKER_03 0:31

Uh, I don't think they release to movie theaters.

SPEAKER_01 0:36

Because they're an independent, right?

SPEAKER_03 0:37

Right, right. So I can't think of the name of them I really need to know about. I will find out. But um they have been in Alpina for probably about a month now, and great. Everyone's wonderful to work with, kind and accommodating, and they love Alpina. What's not to love?

SPEAKER_02 0:55

Yeah.

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Even the few people who, you know, there's always somebody in there. Well, how come I can't be an extra? Or why didn't you do, you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Who do you think you are? You know?

SPEAKER_03 1:05

Yeah.

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You're not Kate.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

No.

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Because Kate not only is the producer, director, no, I'm kidding. She was the podcast. She's in it. And um her one of her properties, her many properties, because she's a land baron. Um is featured.

SPEAKER_03 1:22

Oh, one. Yeah. Yeah. So the centennial building will be in the movie. Did you get a haircut? As well. No, but I colored it. Thanks. Well, it looks nice. Yeah, thanks.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Are those the same glasses?

SPEAKER_03 1:31

Uh, yeah. But they're cheaters.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

Do you change out the glasses?

SPEAKER_03 1:34

Uh, I don't because I really haven't been wearing the glasses, but my kids have like, you know, you can buy them so inexpensively.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

Yeah, but are those cheaters or these are cheaters. Okay, yeah, because you can change it up, yeah. Some people just wear glasses without needing them.

SPEAKER_03 1:50

Cassidy has, I don't know, I'm gonna guess, 10 pair. You know, and Jenna too. They just change them out because you can buy them cheap if you don't have a complicated uh prescription.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Yeah, I don't like it. Getting old I I can't see I can see you right now. But I like I can't see this like a in front of my face. I can see far away.

SPEAKER_03 2:16

Right.

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And then I love it when I don't have my contacts in because I can see close up, but I can't see anything.

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But then you can't see far away. Can't have it all.

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And then driving at night now.

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Oh, see, now you're old if you can't drive at night.

SPEAKER_01 2:28

Well, I can. Well it just I think it makes my passengers nervous. Mainly doing it. Hold on. We'll get there, don't worry. No, the deer, you know, at night.

SPEAKER_03 2:39

Oh yeah. Then the when there is light, it's like uh when the light's coming at you, like more yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

But anyway, back to the uh Alpina thing there. That's really cool.

SPEAKER_03 2:50

Yeah, and so they'll have their uh world premiere in Alpina as soon as it's done, which will be in approximately one year. Approximately very cool, yeah. So shout out to the movie Harson's Island Revenge, Harson's Island Prohibition era.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

Sounds scary.

SPEAKER_03 3:09

Well, it's not scary, but I think it's like a thriller.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

Any hijinks in it?

SPEAKER_03 3:16

Yeah, there is shenanigans? Hijinks because they're bootleggers, so God bless them. With the bootleggers be comes hijinks, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:25

And shenanigans.

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And probably that's probably putting it mildly. Yep. So today's topic is tell us, okay.

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UFOs. Yeah. And whatnot.

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They're very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

What does that stand for?

SPEAKER_03 3:41

Oh, unidentified flying objects, but then now there's the new term because the government got involved and had to give it a new term.

SPEAKER_01 3:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:49

What is A UAP. Unidentified aerial phenomenon. What was wrong with the well, so it might not all be flying. It could be just aerial. Right.

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Right.

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Which a lot of people see the lights.

SPEAKER_00 4:09

What lights?

SPEAKER_03 4:11

Um, you know, they see like the four lights and they're not moving, and they're they can't be well, they see the the light. Not the light. I mean people see that too, but you don't want to see that.

SPEAKER_01 4:23

Save that one, eh?

SPEAKER_03 4:24

Yeah, save that for the end.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

You know, maybe that's related. Some of what I was researching said that perhaps uh references to angels and fire in the sky and all that jazz from that what's that book called? That one popular one that's religious. Oh, the Bible. Um that one. I'm joking.

SPEAKER_03 4:45

It's got a lot of stories in it.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

Yeah, yeah. And um that that could have been referencing could have been referencing um UFOs, actually.

SPEAKER_03 4:54

Uh, I guess. But then a UFO was probably like lightning. I don't know.

unknown 5:02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 5:03

You know, or they saw an eclipse and didn't know science yet, so they thought that was, you know, it was a big deal when you saw it.

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Maybe we think it's maybe.

SPEAKER_03 5:15

Well, no, it's an eclipse.

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Don't you think like in a thousand years they'll look back and say, Oh, those they thought science was something.

SPEAKER_03 5:21

It's all magic. Well, it could be, it could be, but it's probably science.

SPEAKER_01 5:26

Come on, now you sound like a flat earther.

SPEAKER_03 5:29

No, I'm trying to sound the opposite of a flat earther. The earth isn't flat, it's not flat. No, no, and JFK is not still alive. He is too. He's hanging out with Elvis. Oh, is he? Okay.

unknown 5:42

Oh god.

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I just saw some numbers thing, the conspiracy, the guy had a bunch of numbers that relate to JFK is gonna be alive. We'll have to do a conspiracy show, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

This whole thing is a conspiracy.

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But UFOs, so uh it they're popular because two-fifths of Americans believe in them. Believe that they've seen them. We'd have to check my number on that one. I think I just made that up.

SPEAKER_01 6:13

That's gospel. We'll take it. No, I think more and more. I mean, there are more sightings.

SPEAKER_03 6:19

Um and the most sightings were in California. Well, you know what?

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In the United States.

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This is weird. So when I was looking up, because I thought, well, where do people see them? You know, we know people who've seen them. You've seen them. So, you know, there's people seeing them all over, but they do seem to be concentrated in areas where people are uh more open to seeing them, let's say.

SPEAKER_01 6:47

Oh, okay. Open-minded.

SPEAKER_03 6:48

So one, yeah, one list, well, open-minded. One list said California has the most, Florida, and then Washington State. Get the hell out of here. But then another another recent list said Idaho, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine. So I don't know if the old list meant that they were going to California and now they're going to Idaho, Vermont, and Maine, the UFOs. Or people, I think the more people know about them, the more they think they would see them. And I think if it becomes popular, like if you came out and there was an article and and it said KJ saw UFO, then somebody, your neighbor might say, Well, yeah, I saw a UFO too. So I think that has something to do with it too. And Michigan ranked ninth on the list.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

It's the water. They like water.

SPEAKER_03 7:49

Well, maybe they need water. They've possibly said. Maybe they're coming. Why, why? Okay, if it's aliens, first of all, UFOs don't have to be aliens. They can just be unidentified objects. They can be, you know, the weather balloon is very popular, and what else do they think it is? It's it's lights, it's, you know, the government trying out new planes and drones and whatever. But a lot of times people think they're aliens too.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

I hope they are.

SPEAKER_03 8:25

Well, I how can we be the most intelligent people in this universe? No way.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

You saw that guy going by in his car earlier.

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If we cannot, I hope we're not the most the smartest person in the room, you know? Um, and so why would why would alien beings be coming to Earth? Well, we've we've you know gone to space.

SPEAKER_01 8:50

We could be uh could be an experiment.

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It could be.

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Um there's all kinds of things.

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Maybe they are tapped out on water and they need water or food or mushrooms or whatever we might have to offer. And then you think of the old Star Trek that go to all those planets just to see what's going on, you know. Sure.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

Yeah. One dude in that documentary I told you about I did not watch. That's okay. Encounters on Netflix. They have a fellow who worked for NASA and the government, and it was involved in all this stuff for all of his career. He was getting close to retirement, and then there was that recent one a year or so ago uh where they caught that UFO and it was zipping along with the space shuttle or whatever it was and rotating. It's on film, it was all over, it was on news. And uh he was like, it got to the point where he's like, I've known, and the government knows that this is out there, there's more than what they're sharing. He's like, and I just I can't stand it anymore. He gave up his pension, he gave up everything to come out and start talking about and educating people. And as far as I can tell, he's not like a nut. You know, you never know.

SPEAKER_03 10:00

But he worked for NASA all of his life.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Yeah, and they also had people from the Air Force, and then common everyday folk, but some folks did say that the water could be part of it because most inhabitable planets obviously have some type of water source. Yes, and that there have been plenty of reports, especially uh by the Navy, where seeing UFOs come out of the water or along the water, and uh that could be the common thread between our planet and other planets that if there are out there somewhere other planets that have water like we have, they could exist in that water or transport. I don't know. You have to watch it yourself. I was so inundated. Wait, what's that word? And the fuck is that word?

SPEAKER_03 10:48

I don't know. I don't know what flooded with information.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

Okay. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 10:52

Inundated. There it is. Inundated. You were inundated with info. Well, there is a lot of info out there on it, and you know look at you, you got the skeptic face on. Well, I I think, like we just said, we cannot be the smartest people in the universe. We just we can't be. That that'd be a sad, sad universe. And there has to be something out there, and they have to have uh whoever's out there would have to have the ability to space travel. I mean, we do, and we're stupid.

SPEAKER_02 11:29

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 11:29

Not stupid, but you know, not as sure far along as let's say the aliens. How come they always look the same too? Are they just coming from one planet? Is there a whole universe where people look like they the typical alien?

SPEAKER_01 11:45

It's evolution, I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_03 11:47

Is that what we're gonna evolve to?

SPEAKER_01 11:48

Well, they look kind of freaky. You would think the the more you evolve and the more intelligent you get, supposedly, perhaps. You have a bigger brain because you use it more.

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Because they have the big S. You don't need the You don't need the muscle, the brawn.

SPEAKER_01 12:02

Nope. And so we're gonna be laborers for them. Yeah. Or or what do you call it? Uh batteries. Just like in the Matrix, all those people in the pods. But anyway, enough of that.

SPEAKER_03 12:18

Um there's and there's one thing that really bothers me about aliens, specifically about abductions, and that it's fucking scary. Well, well, I think so because of that one word.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

Anal probe?

SPEAKER_03 12:33

Probing.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

Oh, not even anal. Any probe.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

It's any kind of probe.

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Don't be probing.

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That just is bad.

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Well, you don't know.

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But that's what they have to do to check us out to see.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Do they? If they're so smart, why they gotta stick something up there. I think it's like a joke on us. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 12:49

Let's pick up some humans. Screw with so many people cow tipping.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

Yeah, we're gonna go down there and just you know, probe the shit.

SPEAKER_03 12:56

Maybe we're a hazing project.

SPEAKER_01 12:59

Aliens are like a fraternity of space fraternity.

SPEAKER_03 13:02

You have to get four humans and probe them to get into our club.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

You know, not for the people who are probed.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

Uh one good one from that, not one. There's I'm not done with the the show yet, but one really fascinating one was it happened in uh Zimbabwe. There was a school, private school. Um, and it was in 1994, and there were several incidences that happened along the coastline there during this period. But one of them took place, these kids were on break, recess, whatever, outside.

SPEAKER_03 13:35

And how old are the kids?

SPEAKER_01 13:37

Um six to twelve, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 13:40

Okay, so you know, elementary.

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A spaceship, supposedly, they saw in the grass. Okay. Okay. And then they saw an alien or a being. It was tall, it had the bigger head, the eyes, and it had um like hair, like long hair in the back.

SPEAKER_03 14:01

Like a mullet?

SPEAKER_01 14:02

Kind of. Um kind of like that thing from from the Terminator with the or what is the one? The one in the trees, predator, that thing with the hair, you know, you can say, but anyway. So all these kids, 60 of them saw it, freaked out, yada yada yada. And they separated these kids shortly after the schoolmaster separated them and had them draw what they saw. And every kid pretty much drew. And it was a little variation. Well, yeah. And you know, I was watching it with Brooke, my great perfect wife, and she was like, I teach art. She's like, and I can show kids, 60 kids a thing and tell them to draw, and none of them are none of them are either. She's like, it's absolute that's pretty cool, you know. And it had like the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 14:48

So that is proof in her book.

SPEAKER_01 14:49

Yeah, and I mean if you watch it, you're like, holy shit. And then they interviewed some of these people years later and swear that's what it was. And you know, they're kind of pissed off because people didn't believe them, but then some of the school teachers and stuff were coming out now and saying, Yeah, there was something. And then there's one guy who looks like there's always one Johnny Jack from the corner of the bar. You know, he's chain smoking during the interview, and he looks like he just woke up and he's happy to get paid 10 bucks to be on the show. He's like, actually, they're all lying. He's like, I made up the story. I said that there was a space alien over there and a ship, and everyone believed me. And so his point was that all the other kids believed his story, panicked. And that could be but six.

SPEAKER_03 15:28

Well, what did they see? You know, if they the drawings, I think, like Brooke says, say a lot. You know, that they you can have one kid say that. Yep. But how do they all draw the same thing?

SPEAKER_01 15:42

Mm-hmm. And then there were some other cool ones too.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

There's a lot of people, and they stick by it till the day they die. I was abducted, I was gone, I was driving, you know, and and saw some lights, and then hours later I was back in my car.

SPEAKER_01 15:54

Yeah, I'm still waiting to get dropped off. I think I'm still abducted. Are you abducted? Yeah. I was okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:00

No probing.

SPEAKER_01 16:01

Before I go into that story, the probing. Um, there were some other things about that document that were pretty fascinating, like uh UFOs showing up around nuclear reactors. Um, after the big um blast in Fukushima, I think it was.

SPEAKER_03 16:15

In Japan, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

Um, they had which is right on the water readings that were like off the chart for radio um radioactive. Man.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

Radioactive and nuclear.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Yeah. Yeah. My brain's not working so well today. Up too late. Anyway, there was uh reports, no shit, reports, whatever, that um there was an unidentified flying object above that area, and then they did reading shortly thereafter, and they had dropped dramas. I mean, drastically, like almost down to zip.

SPEAKER_03 16:50

So did that that unidentified flying object suck all the nuclear power out or radioactive?

SPEAKER_01 16:58

Radioactive waste or whatever, supposedly.

SPEAKER_03 17:00

Thank you, aliens.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

Well, here's the thing, and this happened along Maybe they need it for some of those kids that witnessed it, it was during the same time, different area, but they said that the alien didn't speak, but it kind of like t telepathy. And these kids, they interviewed them back then, they showed the interviews of these kids, and they were trying to say words like technological, and they didn't even know, but they're trying to say it. And they're like, the the alien was trying to tell us to take care of the planet and earth and to not become too technologicalized, you know. They were saying words like that, and the kids were like, you could tell, visibly shaken and mood, but it was a good message to like be a steward of the earth and take care of it and don't get into the technology too much. And but maybe that's the government.

SPEAKER_03 17:46

Well, it and as great as technology is, it does you forget how it sucks the planet dry of um natural resources. I mean, it it just does. The more technology we have, the more you know, batteries and everything that the the that goes into a chip, it it does come from the earth.

SPEAKER_01 18:13

But I took you off your path there. Of I don't know, you were I always interrupt.

SPEAKER_03 18:20

No, tell us about your sighting.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Okay, there's two. Okay. Um the first one I probably was about 17, 18, somewhere around there. And uh I was working in town at a retail store, I think it was Fisher's Big Wheel at the time. And uh was coming home from work, got out, they closed at 9 or whatever, did cleanup, left work around 9.30, cruising along, go down, long rapids to Cathro, heading out to my folks' house, and as soon as I turn off a Cathro Road to turn left, I look, and there is a white light in the sky, quite big, um, and it's kind of shaped like they everyone says a cigar or whatever, but it's kind of in that shape a little bit. Like a it's just a bright, yeah, bright light, and it's off to my right above the Smolinsky's place there. Oh, I shouldn't be telling people's names or whatever, but their house is on a hill. And I'm like, I stopped in the road, and I was just like, there was something about the light, and that's why I relate it to what these kids say that it kind of gave them an overwhelming fill feeling of peace and whatever.

SPEAKER_03 19:29

And what I saw So it wasn't scary. You didn't you didn't freak out? Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

I stopped, and the light was there, and it moved real quick. Like, I don't know how it would be in the sky, but I mean like as fast as you can move your finger, and it stopped like just a short ways over for a little bit. Oh, absolutely not. No, and this or a helicopter, and I was like, holy cow, you know. So I got out of the car and I moved over to the passenger side and stood outside. There was, you know, there's no traffic out there, and I'm watching it, and I'm like, I cannot believe this. And it just felt really cool, and I don't know how long I was staying there, but then it went really quick um to my left, then back like a square, boom, boom, that quick, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then just took off as fast as you can move your finger across the sky and was gone. And I was like, holy crap, you know, this is amazing. I you know, and I was I was a back then, I was skeptical about everything. I was a dick. I was there was a lot of things about it. You were not a hero. And so anyway, I got home and I'm like, holy shit, you're not gonna believe what I saw, you know. And I was so excited, and she's like, Yeah, don't drink and drive. She's like, Don't say anything. I'm like, okay, so whatever. And about it's pissed me off because I know what I saw, you know, and like nothing moves like that. That that was amazing. And here I'm trying to share it with my mom, and you know, I get it though. She's like, Yeah, you're kind of nut bag, you know, go to bed to get some rest. So then about a week or two later, uh, my mom and I were out visiting my aunt and uncle on the lake, and um, we just happened to be coming back from the other direction, and we got up over the hill on that side and we started coming down, and all of a sudden, that light appeared over um the trees and was moving along with us like fast. And then I said, Mom, look, there's that light. And she pulled over and we watched, and it did the same thing. It zipped over the top of us fast as it can be.

SPEAKER_03 21:24

It was the same area, too.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Yep. Okay, and then it darted back and then it just took off that fast. I it was unbelievable. And I looked at her and I was smiling because I'm like, Steve, and she's looking, she's like, Oh my gosh, she's like, that's amazing. She's like, Don't say a word to your father. And I'm like, okay. But yeah, it was amazing. And then I've seen things like that again throughout my life a couple times.

SPEAKER_03 21:47

So you didn't like lose time or anything.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

They didn't they didn't but when the first time, if it was a second or ten days, yeah, it was weird. There was like no while you're there, no confidence. Yeah. And then um my boy actually had an experience when he was young and it scared the crap out of him and us because he woke up and he was talking to Brooke. I wasn't home, but she uh she replayed it because we were watching the she knew we were doing this podcast and we were watching that show and she's like, Oh my god, I'll never forget when you know Julian had that experience when he was little, and it was detailed. We were living over there on White Street um about how three aliens came uh into his room, took him on a ship. I mean, he went through the whole detail of how scared he was and what happened, and how um one of they dropped him off in the field over there, and then one of the aliens saw that he couldn't find his way home, so they guided him home and walked him back into his room, held his hand and brought him in. And the whole experience, if you listen to him tell it, it was pretty amazing.

SPEAKER_03 22:49

Yeah, he was just a little kid, but well, little kids don't know how to they I mean they can make stuff up, sure, but they're usually the truth tellers.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

Sure. And it like I said, could be a kid with a dream.

SPEAKER_03 23:02

Like even with with yeah, it could be a kid with a dream, but even with you know, ghosts or anything, you know, spiritual kids know.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

That's another one we'll have to get to one of these days. But but you've had no experiences.

SPEAKER_03 23:15

I have not.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

That's okay. Yeah, keep your eyes peeled being on the lake there.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

Um yeah, you know, you see a lot of stars out there and shooting stars and and satellites. There's a lot of satellites now.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

Yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:31

Um but I and you see sometimes things that are maybe not normal, but they're not so crazy, and they're so far away. How are we gonna know what they are? Right, you know, yeah. Nothing that close up. Yeah, I I mean once in a while you meet somebody who's seen something, but and so also I noticed that there are a lot of movies about UFOs and aliens. There's a lot of movies. Um, people so I think that people like to get make money off of this too.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:09

Um, and you know, you got the whole Roswell place. I mean, that's why that's on the map now, is because they supposedly found uh being in a UFO. And um whether they did or not, I mean there's lots of debate on that. But even if they didn't, that's their existence now, and that's why people go there making a living at it now. And then you have all the movies, you have I mean E.T. and 2001 Space Odyssey, Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

Fire in the Sky.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

I don't know Fire in the Sky. Oh, I'll have to watch it. How about this one? Did you ever watch Under the Skin? I read the book and then watched the movie, and it's really freaky. Scarlett Johansson's in it.

SPEAKER_00 24:59

So I like that girl. Yeah, she does a great job.

SPEAKER_03 25:03

And she is an alien that comes from wherever, and and let's just say she gets under the skin of a lot of males. Oh fashion, and then um and then you have Paul.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:16

Yeah, with Jason Bateman in it. Well, and look at that. And also, who's in it with him? It's um Simon Pegg, I believe. Oh, yeah, yeah. I love him.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

What about um signs?

SPEAKER_03 25:28

That yeah, that's a good one too. Really? With Marky Mark in it? Isn't that um Mark Wahlberg? No.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

Mel Gibson and Joaquin Phoenix. Okay, there's cups of water water out of the house.

SPEAKER_03 25:41

You remember that? Um, I've seen it, but I just you're clear of Mel Gibson.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

You know what we should do is we should do a podcast to watch movies.

unknown 25:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 25:50

Well, and how about TV shows? Oh my gosh, there's so many. X-File, Star Trek, so many Star Trek. So Third Rock from the Sun, and Don't think Elf.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

Ha! I killed me. See, you remember that show. He was a dick. Elf was a dick, wasn't he?

SPEAKER_03 26:10

He was a dick. I think we covered that one. Oh, we did because he was on our list. He's a dick. He was uh oh, yeah. He was uh he was an alien. Probably came on a UFO.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Well, yeah, and so you gotta factor in the fact, factor in the fact that it is in pop culture, and sometimes it's impressed upon you, and then you're people will say you're going to see it because it's impressed upon you, even if it's not there. Okay. But if you go back through literature, um historical text, there are references to UFOs. Yes. Um in 2014 they found some uh Chinese scriptures, and um there's a fucking UFO drawn in it. I mean, that's from the 1400s, and it looks like the it looks like what you're seeing now, yeah. So I don't know. There's definitely something to it, and you know, you think about how in general usually things come from somewhere, you know, people are just right.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

They're not just well, sometimes they do, but enough people have pulled it out of their ass that I don't know. Uh so what what is your verdict, hero or dick for UFOs?

SPEAKER_01 27:19

Hero.

SPEAKER_03 27:20

I would say overall they are heroes, although you got that probing thing, and that's kind of dickish. Well, and ultimately Albow no extraterrestrial, extraterrestrial. That's hard. It is, I'm not sure. Uh life has been conclusively detected. But how can there not be? How can there not be? And maybe they're just smart enough that they just you know come to planet Earth to it's their playground, you know.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

They wouldn't come here if they didn't know they could leave, come and go as they pleased, right?

SPEAKER_03 27:59

They're not, yeah. But but then there's been the the um the ones that crash, you know, and that can't get back. And that's the the bodies, like the Roswell ones.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

So I don't know about that whole thing there, but I don't I don't know either. I I mean maybe something did crash, but then the government said, We can't have people believing in this shit. Let's create this stuff.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

I think it was long enough ago too that that they did that, you know, in the 50s they were like, we're the government, we don't have to tell anybody.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

You know, we didn't even talk about Rob Lazar. He's like the famous dude that worked at supposedly at Area 51. He saw the spacecrafts. You never heard about that dude.

SPEAKER_03 28:36

I I don't know of him.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

That's all right.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

Rob Lazar. And so he believes I'm against holy shit, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

Yeah, he said he was there, saw crafts that the government had um confiscated, and then of course, all his records have been wiped, like he doesn't even exist, which so they do sound like a couple of nuts.

SPEAKER_03 28:57

Well, well, and you have to wonder, you know, the government, so now they're finally saying stuff about it. Yeah, there are things in the sky that we can't identify.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

Well, the thing is they can't, if they knew, could you imagine? If they just said, I got some news for you, everybody. We're not alone on the planet. There's some of them on the planet with us, everything we're doing really doesn't make mean anything because they're ultimately in control. The whole everything they've created is a system to keep us in control, earning a fucking paycheck every day, working to make ends meet, it wouldn't work.

SPEAKER_03 29:28

That's all it's all BS. Never mind. Aliens are gonna overtake us anyway.

SPEAKER_01 29:34

Um we have our Fast Five, okay, and then we have our people keep requesting our banter.

SPEAKER_03 29:40

Uh well, I think we bantered.

SPEAKER_01 29:42

How many emails did you get this week?

SPEAKER_03 29:44

Oh, I didn't even check it.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

Okay, it's probably full.

SPEAKER_03 29:47

Probably full. I do know we have one new listener. Hello, Sally.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

Sally?

SPEAKER_03 29:52

Uh-huh. My sister.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Oh yeah. Hi, Sally.

SPEAKER_03 29:56

She, of course, she chose the share one to listen to first, and she texted me right away. You're singing. Like, I'm sorry. I don't ever do that again. Please don't, please don't stop listening because of that.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

My wife actually said the other day, I couldn't believe it. I said, Well, what are you doing? She's like, Oh, I'm catching up on podcasts. She's like, I just caught up on your podcast. She's listened to all of them, I think. And I think she said, Oh boy. I think she said Einstein. That one was her favorite.

SPEAKER_03 30:23

When is that when Jenna was here? Well, she wasn't right here, but she was on the phone. That was my favorite because I thought that was hilarious. The mustaches. Mustaches. All right. So what's your fast vibe?

SPEAKER_01 30:36

Well, mine was uh a donated list. All right.

SPEAKER_03 30:41

From my I'm always looking for suggestions. My email them in at Here Dick2023 at gmail.com. Yeah, let us know your ideas. And or if you want to call in and tell us your fast vibe, we're always up for that.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

I guess people don't realize the reason that we have a Gmail address and not like a real address is because Google is one of our sponsors, and so we're trying to promote Gmail. Um, my list was donated from my sassy pants daughter, Jovi, all right, and the woman I always talk about, Brooke. Ready?

SPEAKER_03 31:16

Ready.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

Let's go. It's a general list, and the first one on it is Nick Cannon.

SPEAKER_03 31:21

Uh he has a lot of kids. So he takes care of them all, though, I think. I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

He seems like I want to think he's a hero. Um he's got a lot of jobs, but I think he's got a lot of jobs because he's got a lot of kids.

SPEAKER_03 31:39

He's gotta support them all. As long as he's supporting his kids, I say here. I don't care. Have 15 kids as long as you can afford them.

SPEAKER_01 31:47

He's the host of uh The Masked Singer.

SPEAKER_03 31:50

I don't watch any of those shows. I don't support him in that.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

I'm gonna say I'll call him a hero until he proves me wrong, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 31:57

That's right. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

Um, the technological revolution. Well, overall ties in with the UFO.

SPEAKER_03 32:03

It does, and overall it is a hero. I mean, it it has upped our level of information, but that's not always good.

SPEAKER_01 32:13

Right.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

But overall, hero.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

I'm gonna say hero, but I have to throw in Jovi wanted me to make sure uh that I said the word dick. It's a dick. She doesn't like it. She thinks we should all be moving to the country, picking flowers, raising kitties, goats, and taking care of ourselves that way. I agree.

SPEAKER_03 32:29

You know, I have to say when sometimes if you leave your phone somewhere, if you don't have service, or if you don't have the TV on and you just are reading a book.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

And chewing out of gummy or something.

SPEAKER_03 32:40

That is that is way more hero than you know going through the the Facebook feed, which I'm not a Facebook, but you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 32:49

Books are the I love books.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

They're the best. Real books, but I do read books on Kindle too.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:55

So I guess that counts as tech.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

Winter.

SPEAKER_03 32:59

Uh I say hero. I love winter.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

I want to say dick, but I think it's a winter because I think it's a hero because ultimately it's a big test to the human spirit, especially when you're up in the sticks here. Because the days are long, it's cold, you're shoveling, you're walking through slush, you're thinking about hanging yourself on the rafters.

SPEAKER_03 33:18

I see. So it can really build your character. I think now that there's climate change in Alpina, our winters are shorter, so I don't mind them so much.

SPEAKER_02 33:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 33:32

Um, but man, sometimes you get winter from like October till April. That's a lot of winter. That's a lot of winter. But overall, let it snow. It's it's fine till you have to move the snow. Um, but fire in the fireplace, and you know, yeah, warm drink. Yeah, winter. Winter gives us time to hibernate. Yep. And I like hibernating. I like going to the Caribbean too, though.

SPEAKER_01 34:00

So whatever. Uh garbage removal, garbage men, garbage trucks, the whole process.

SPEAKER_03 34:06

I love them. I say they're all heroes.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

I agree. Heroes, heroes, and heroes, especially the stuff we put in the truck.

SPEAKER_03 34:12

Except the raccoon that got in our garbage last night. He is a dick. He's a big dick. We're not happy with him. We got him on game cam.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

Maybe you need to buy him something nice to describe it.

SPEAKER_03 34:26

It was in the garage in an enclosed big barrel with the lid tightened down, but not bungee down. And we were we got home at 9 30.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

Well, clearly it's your fault.

SPEAKER_03 34:39

And it was our fault. The the door was slightly open. But here's the raccoon. I get it. You're a raccoon. Sure. You gotta eat too.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

Maybe to his family, he's a hero.

SPEAKER_03 34:50

Maybe. He's probably a hero to somebody else, but not to me.

SPEAKER_01 34:54

Yeah, he's a dick, I guess, eh? Um, outdoor lights up all year round.

SPEAKER_03 34:59

No. Dick.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

We have outdoor lights up all year round, but they're not on.

unknown 35:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:04

So they're clarified. So the folks that have lights on all year round.

SPEAKER_03 35:07

All year round. Like Christmas lights on all year round. Or they change. Well, look, they're red, so it's Valentine's Day. No. No. No.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Okay. Dick it is. What do you got?

SPEAKER_03 35:17

I say. I'm just trying to drive it down. So I can keep track of them. So the first one I have is the lottery.

SPEAKER_02 35:25

Dick.

SPEAKER_03 35:28

You don't play into. Oh, I play the lottery. They uh they are good because they're giving all their money to the schools.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

But they're also encouraging gambling and risky behavior and drinking all night at the slots.

SPEAKER_03 35:44

Well, okay, let's just talk the lottery, like a lottery ticket.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

Not gambling in general.

SPEAKER_03 35:49

But no, not gambling in general. But um lottery tickets. I mean, once in a while they're a hero, but man, if you're going every day to you know, Kerbands or whatever it's called, you buy in your $20 worth of lottery tickets. Scratch them off at the counter. Scratching them off, and then you buy them some more, and give me another one. Okay, how about the family guy? Wow, dead silence.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

Yeah, well, you know, you can go a couple ways now, but it's a hero.

SPEAKER_03 36:22

Um I they're a hero until they go over the line, and then they're funny, funny, funny, and then boom, they do a little bit too much.

SPEAKER_01 36:31

I know self parks like that too. I wish that I get it, freedom of speech, but sometimes people do it just to go right the extra mile.

SPEAKER_03 36:38

And do I have to see Brian vomit for five minutes? No, just like two minutes. That would be funny, maybe. I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

Good point. You don't have to go the extra mile.

SPEAKER_03 36:49

How about pumpkin pie?

SPEAKER_01 36:50

Oh, hero.

SPEAKER_03 36:51

Oh, dick.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

You call me a dick, or you call it a pumpkin dick. I know now it's pumpkin fucking spicy spicy.

SPEAKER_03 36:59

It is pumpkin everywhere. And I like pumpkin. I like pumpkin pie.

SPEAKER_01 37:02

You don't like a nice piece of pumpkin pie with a big dollop of cool whip on there?

SPEAKER_03 37:05

I mean, I'll eat it if it's the only pie available. But it's really when you get down to it, it's a vegetable. It's a vegetable pie. With whipped cream on it. That doesn't that doesn't change it.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

Dick.

SPEAKER_03 37:17

Um, how about Adam Sandler?

SPEAKER_01 37:20

Dick.

SPEAKER_03 37:21

Oh no, he's a hero.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

I say that because everybody in my family I like him too. He's funny. But I've seen him be a dick.

SPEAKER_03 37:29

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01 37:29

Like there's clips of him out there being a royal pecker fuck to people.

SPEAKER_03 37:33

And then but he does employ all his friends.

SPEAKER_01 37:35

He does.

SPEAKER_03 37:36

And I do like David Spade, so he employs him.

SPEAKER_01 37:40

And that sense of humor, which is stupid. It it was kind of a trailblazer.

SPEAKER_03 37:45

It's uh yes, and I like his movies like on a he's a good Tuesday night movie, you know. I don't want to sit down Saturday night and watch uh school. Um, I can't think of some of the really stupid ones. The only one I like is the golf one. What's the golf one? Where he's the hockey player. Yeah, I like that one. What about uh Big Daddy? Black Barker. Oh yeah. Price is wrong, bitch.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

What about uh I know you don't want to get into all of them, but Big Daddy.

SPEAKER_03 38:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:15

Billy Madison. Punch Drunk Love.

SPEAKER_03 38:18

Uh I don't think I've seen that one.

SPEAKER_01 38:20

So it's more of a drama.

SPEAKER_03 38:21

Oh, okay. All right. Well, we'll give him a chance for drama. I don't know. I I did watch he got a award, you know, the big comedy award. Um the Mark Twain Award. And I thought that was a bit overdone, but whatever.

SPEAKER_01 38:38

Other people that probably I think so.

SPEAKER_03 38:41

Okay, my last one is uh PBJ.

SPEAKER_01 38:43

PBJ.

SPEAKER_03 38:44

You don't know what a PBJ is.

SPEAKER_01 38:46

I know I'm thinking about I just ate one last night with four Oreo cookies right before I went to the Well how are you in kindergarten? Um Hero.

SPEAKER_03 38:56

I say hero.

SPEAKER_01 38:58

What about uh, you know, what you know he was in Paul. Oh, did you mention that? I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 39:06

Yeah, you missed it. Fuck me. I'm sorry. Right over, right over here.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

They brought that up actually in this podcast that he was in Paul.

SPEAKER_03 39:13

He was in Paul. And that is one of my favorite alien movies.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

God, he's been in a lot of movies. Mm-hmm. It's been a commercial right now.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

Uh he might one day. Not yet. Not yet. Adam Sandler can get one. Why can't he?

SPEAKER_01 39:28

So wait a minute. What did you say about Adam, Adam Sandler?

SPEAKER_03 39:31

I see.

SPEAKER_01 39:31

Because it sounds like you don't like him.

SPEAKER_03 39:33

Uh, you know, I try not to, but I'm gonna say he employs a lot of his friends, so okay. Uh yeah, that's what I said. Hero. Okay. Because he employs David Spade, who I love.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

What's your family think about Adam Sandler?

SPEAKER_03 39:46

Um I bet you Cassidy didn't like him. No, Cassidy, no.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

She's too smart.

SPEAKER_03 39:50

No, yeah, she's above him. Uh and Jenna, she can't. No opinion. No opinion. She's a good one. And Mike, I think, is a Tuesday night. Yeah, it's Tuesday night. We could watch an Adam Sandler movie.

SPEAKER_01 40:01

I don't want to waste a Saturday on him though. My family's as smart as your family. Oh, I think so. We got a lot of Adam Sandler movies.

SPEAKER_03 40:11

But sometimes you gotta watch the brain. Sometimes we call it float movies. So just put on the movie and let me just float here.

SPEAKER_01 40:18

Like the American Pie movies?

SPEAKER_03 40:20

Uh yeah. Yeah, those that would go into the float category. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:24

Stiffler. You couldn't make a movie with that guy anymore, I don't think.

SPEAKER_03 40:28

Oh, I don't think so. No. Holy shit. No, no, no. You get canceled. It would be bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

I suppose we were to go before we're canceled.

SPEAKER_03 40:35

Okay. All right. So thanks for listening. Email us at hero or dick2023 at gmail.com, and we'll see you next time. Bye, everyone. Bye.