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Then we found ourselves asking it about places, traditions, entertainment, and the ordinary stuff we’d never thought to question before. Who gets praised? What gets overlooked? Why are we so sure we know the story?
We pick something that interests us, do our homework, and sit down to talk. We bring facts, opinions, and stories from our own lives, and follow the occasional tangent.
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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick, Ep. 15 - Thanksgiving Spectacular!
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Gobble Gobble: The Thanksgiving Spectacular!
Hey, festive folks! It's your favorite podcasting duo, Kate and KJ, back with a special Thanksgiving treat in Episode 15 of Hero or Dick! This time, we're slicing into the juicy (and sometimes wacky) traditions of Turkey Day. From the Pilgrims and Native Americans' fateful feast to the iconic Macy's parade, and yes, the inevitable Detroit Lions football chat – we've got your Thanksgiving history covered.
But wait, there's more! We're talking food, food, and oh, did we mention food? KJ might get lost in his love for gravy (and a few off-topic rambles), but that's just part of the fun.
And because it's Thanksgiving, we're turning the table to you, our amazing listeners! Share your stories, ideas and comments by emailing us at heroordick2023@gmail.com. Who knows, your tale might just be featured in our next episode!
So grab a slice of pie, settle in, and let's get stuffed with stories. Tune in to Episode 15 of Hero or Dick for all this and more – it's a Thanksgiving feast for your ears!" 🦃🍂🏈
Hello.
SPEAKER_01Hey.
SPEAKER_02Welcome to number 15 of Hero or Dick.
SPEAKER_01Hero or Dick.
SPEAKER_02Podcast.
SPEAKER_01Podcast broadcast. Is there an echo?
SPEAKER_02I meant you.
SPEAKER_01You met me? See? We are broadcasting once again from Alpina, Michigan in Horse Feathers Studio.
SPEAKER_02And it is November 16th, and it it's like 70 degrees out.
SPEAKER_0170.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it's not 70, but it's at least.
SPEAKER_01Was it uh hot out in your deer blind this morning?
SPEAKER_02It would have been if I went to a deer blind. Yeah. Probably not ideal deer hunting time. Because it's so warm, but too bad, deer hunters.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, too bad.
SPEAKER_02Just hit one with your car like I do. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Kate's still waiting for her car.
SPEAKER_02I do not have a car.
SPEAKER_01She uh we're we're gonna get matching Land Rovers pretty soon.
SPEAKER_02The hundredth episode.
SPEAKER_01Actually, my probably gonna be a 1979 Ford Fiesta. I think I'm gonna go Is that your dream car? No, I'm gonna scale back.
SPEAKER_02And go with Ford Fiesta? I don't even think they make them anymore, so it's probably like a retro really expensive because everybody threw theirs out when they were done.
SPEAKER_01Threw them out. Disposable cars. Like everything else.
SPEAKER_02That's the next thing of the future. Um, and our topic today is very timely because next week is Thanksgiving, and our topic is Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_00Is it?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, damn it. Um I did share something else.
SPEAKER_01All the stuff seemed really familiar too.
SPEAKER_02Share.
SPEAKER_01My wife brought up our podcast last night because we were watching The Voice.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01And somebody was doing a share song. She's like, Oh, look, it's the girl, the pot the girl from our podcast.
SPEAKER_02Which yes.
SPEAKER_01She was here, wasn't she?
SPEAKER_02Yes, in person. She probably would have, but she probably would have called in.
SPEAKER_01She's not doing anything.
SPEAKER_02She's probably like No, she's very busy.
SPEAKER_01The Elconic.
SPEAKER_02She is no, she is going to be on a on a float in the Macy's Day. Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_01You texted me that.
SPEAKER_02And you're welcome, Cher. We gave you that little extra and see what it got ya. Yeah. We should say you're we're sorry. Because now she's gonna be in the Thanksgiving Day Parade.
SPEAKER_01She's the like the end, isn't she?
SPEAKER_02She's the big whoop-de-doo. I I think Santa Claus is always the end. She's but she's not she's not Santa Claus.
SPEAKER_01I know. Well, she'd be cool if she was.
SPEAKER_02Well, that would be great. She probably looked pretty good. Uh-huh. She could do it.
SPEAKER_01Is Any Rad real?
SPEAKER_02Santa or Cher?
SPEAKER_01Both. Santa's more real than Cher, probably.
SPEAKER_02Uh some parts. Some parts, maybe. She looks good though.
SPEAKER_01How about I'm sorry, I'm I love going off track. I know you hate it. But speaking of the voice and people not looking like they've aged, Gwen Stefani.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. What's the deal with her? She's timeless. She's she looks like made of porcelain. She's like 30.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know why? She stays out of the sun, I think.
SPEAKER_01She looks like she stays out of the sun.
SPEAKER_02She's so pale. And she is she is really pale.
SPEAKER_01Still married to Blake, too.
SPEAKER_02I guess.
SPEAKER_01Yo leehy.
SPEAKER_02Good for her.
SPEAKER_01Um, I suppose there was other stuff. Oh, I do want to give a shout out. I'm gonna give a shout out to the local business we were talking about because he did a really good job on my wife's car. And I book in mine uh Garth on the Go. I think that's what it's called.
SPEAKER_02He does We had a vehicle there too, and he did a wonderful job.
SPEAKER_01Auto detailing, um, all that jazz cleaning, vacuuming.
SPEAKER_02Very reasonable, but bring cash.
SPEAKER_01Bring cash, but Garth, you gotta work on that.
SPEAKER_02You gotta take a debit card, you know, or something.
SPEAKER_01Crypto.
SPEAKER_02Uh crypto or Venmo? How about Venmo?
SPEAKER_01Venmo, PayPal.
SPEAKER_02Why can't he do that?
SPEAKER_01Uh Apple Pay, Google Pay.
SPEAKER_02Well, but that's the that's a minor detail.
SPEAKER_01It is because great work.
SPEAKER_02Did you spin the wheel? So he they have uh foot wheel. They have a wheel. Maybe it just started yesterday. We picked up the car.
SPEAKER_01Maybe because it was you.
SPEAKER_02And Mike spun the wheel and he won uh a prize, and he could choose between a hat or a t-shirt. Chose a hat.
SPEAKER_01No shit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was a really nice uh ball cap, you know. Hey, got a new hat. I see that. What's Cavu?
SPEAKER_01I have no idea. I like it. I don't know. I have a big head that fit from that place down there at Colburn or whatever. But anyway, yeah, Garth on the Go.
SPEAKER_02Garth on the go. Good job.
SPEAKER_01I want to give it really on the go, though, is he? Does he?
SPEAKER_02Well, he knows he yeah, he does. He'll come to you and clean it. That's why it's Garth on the Go. The other shout out I want to give is to Julie M. And she uh I was texting her about something else, and she said, Hey, I've been enjoying your podcast. And I say, Hey Julie, this is a lot.
SPEAKER_01Was it ours? It was uh our podcast?
SPEAKER_02Our podcast, yeah. I don't have another one.
SPEAKER_01I hey who knows? Uh you could you were like three weeks on late on this one, so I don't know if you got another one you're working on.
SPEAKER_02But the uh the other thing I've been thinking about is can we come up with a new term for shout out? I don't like that. I think it should be done. And so I looked a little bit and it's and I said, you know, I just asked Google, so what can we use instead of shout out? And it gave me these suggestions. Tell me what you think.
SPEAKER_01All right. Is it like a fast five?
SPEAKER_02Uh it could be.
SPEAKER_01We'll do it first. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Affirm. That's not the same. Hey, I want to give an affirmation to Julie. It sounds like I'm saving her life from something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh they also give the option of profess.
SPEAKER_00Profess.
SPEAKER_02If I want to give a profess out to Julie.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. No. Next.
SPEAKER_02No. How about blast? Blast out? I liked that one. Out of all of them, that was the best.
SPEAKER_01Was there more?
SPEAKER_02There's one more that I wrote down. Broadcast. But I said no for that one. I think we're like blast out. We can use it. I'll tell you what, if anybody's listening, not just Julie, but anybody could email us what you think we should use instead of shout out. You can send it to hero or dick2023 at gmail.com.
SPEAKER_01Right on.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Now let's get to Thanks, Julie.
SPEAKER_01Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_02Thanksgiving. When was the first Thanksgiving?
SPEAKER_011600s? 1641.
SPEAKER_0221? Same.
SPEAKER_01Something. Give or take the decades.
SPEAKER_02As of now, it's the same thing.
SPEAKER_01But did it really happen then?
SPEAKER_02Maybe. We don't really know. We only know it's like a biblical story. We only know what's, you know, it's not, there's no pictures to prove it.
SPEAKER_01It's nice to see people just getting along.
SPEAKER_02Well, okay. Let's say that. So there were 50. That's kind of an evil laugh. I like it. I know.
SPEAKER_01I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02So there were about 50 pilgrims and about 90 wampog? Wampum? Wampum. Wampum nog. I'm not saying it right. No disrespect meant to the Native American wampumog. Wampum nog. And uh I read this, which was kind of disturbing. It said there was probably only about five women there.
SPEAKER_01Where were the rest of them?
SPEAKER_02I think they died of cholera.
SPEAKER_01That's too few women.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Plus, you know they had to do all the dishes.
SPEAKER_01They did a lot of stuff, poor ladies.
SPEAKER_02So, and it wasn't originally in November, it was originally held in October. Which would be well, that would make sense because that's when all the harvest is coming in. They Lincoln, that Lincoln guy, you know, that no-good Lincoln, he changed it to November to honor the Pilgrim's Landing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but you know why?
SPEAKER_02Why?
SPEAKER_01It became a holiday.
SPEAKER_02Oh, why it became a holiday?
SPEAKER_01Here in the United States of fucking America.
SPEAKER_02Why?
SPEAKER_01Sarah. Josephie Hale.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01Did you not know that?
SPEAKER_02I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_01I didn't either. I found it. Uh yeah, she was a writer, um, a very popular one in the 1800s, around the time of the Civil War and all that jazz, and she actually had her own magazine. And she was like, uh it was the first time really, supposedly, that social media can you call it that?
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01Social media or media, media, uh impacted uh presidential decision. She had written to five presidents and kept pleading and pleading that we have uh we celebrate Thanksgiving in November um to kind of have a time when everybody comes together, and it worked.
SPEAKER_02So she she pushed to get it to be a national holiday.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_02Oh, thanks, Sarah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was pretty cool. I I did not know that. I learned a lot, actually. Not much.
SPEAKER_02Some things. There's a lot of facts, of course, about Thanksgiving. There's a lot about the food of Thanksgiving. Um, you know. Yes, there was a lot. How much of it is true? I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there was no turkey at the first. I mean, there were probably turkeys.
SPEAKER_02It probably was foul, is what they said. Foul. Foul. F-O-D-W-L. There's probably venison.
SPEAKER_01Bunnies.
SPEAKER_02They probably have raccoons. I don't know. What else are they eating then?
SPEAKER_01Do you ever had raccoon?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_01Possum?
SPEAKER_02Possum.
SPEAKER_01I had possum.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_01In family living class in Thunder Bay Junior High School.
SPEAKER_02Wow, that's kind of wrong. But okay. Family. What family are you living with?
SPEAKER_01I don't know, but it was called Family Living. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And we was cooking and sewing and Okay, well, so it's like a homemaking class or whatever. So I'd interrupt. But so we're gonna. Did you have squirrel too?
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_02Are you kidding?
SPEAKER_01I'm not kidding. We had uh we had the class. Mrs. Kent. I think she may have passed away, but she was a neat old lady. Was she really old though?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and in perspective, everybody's old when you're in junior high, and then it turns out they were the same younger than I am now.
SPEAKER_01You know what's really messed up is you wake up in the morning and you look at yourself and you're like, God damn, what's going on? You know what I mean? You're getting older, hairs are popping out, wrinkles are coming, you gotta lube up the face, you know, put on the moisturizer, and then but you say, It's still me in there, it's the same person I've always been in there. I'm getting old.
SPEAKER_02Well, none of us are getting any younger.
SPEAKER_01Benjamin Butler.
SPEAKER_02You start dying the day you are born.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Jesus Christ, Kate.
SPEAKER_02Well, it's true. That's not I I don't mean to be morbid with it. I know who says dying is bad.
SPEAKER_01No, it's a transitional phase. It's a transition.
SPEAKER_02We're here for we're here for hopefully about 70, 80 years, hopefully 80 years.
SPEAKER_01Can you hope higher?
SPEAKER_02Uh you can, but I don't know. Usually after 80, it's like what's the point? Uh if you're healthy and I know some people over 80 who are healthy and live by themselves and take care of themselves and they're living life large just like they were years ago. But I know a lot of people who are, you know, 90 and you're living in, you know, a home. And do you want that? But okay, wait, all right, back to Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_01Let's give thanks here.
SPEAKER_02Okay, thanks. So the best thing about Thanksgiving is fill in the blank.
SPEAKER_01This is for me?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, family.
SPEAKER_02Family?
SPEAKER_01I like hanging out with folks.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01My brothers if they're around, which not usually. And then my wife and kids. Yeah. In laws.
SPEAKER_02And do you go to your mom and dad's?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_02Do they come to you?
SPEAKER_01We do go to my mom and dad's. Holy shit. Well, no, we go there early. Uh we go there uh around noon or one. It's kind of like a midday thing because you know everybody's got something going on.
SPEAKER_02And then um so you get a nice lunch. It's not really a lunch.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Rita does it up in uh yeah, turkey, ham, so you get the full meal. Oh, it's it's a lot.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And then do you go to another meal later that is a full meal? Yep. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_02So Friday is your recuperation day.
SPEAKER_01And enjoying leftovers.
SPEAKER_02What's the best leftover? I'm gonna say a turkey sandwich, be it hot or cold. Hot turkey sandwiches are really good.
SPEAKER_01I just like putting it all on a plate and putting gravy over everything.
SPEAKER_02Like even the desserts?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_01Where do you do yours at your house? You going somewhere?
SPEAKER_02Uh this year we're actually hosting.
SPEAKER_01Oh boy. Yeah. You got a big house and you can fill out people.
SPEAKER_02Okay. It's got you know, we got away from it at COVID and we just did our immediate family, which is you know, big enough, and then we'd have a a a few stragglers here and there, and that's fine. But this year we'll have about 25 people. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Are you you and your hubby cooking for everything?
SPEAKER_02We're no, we're cooking the turkey.
SPEAKER_01Everyone's bringing something and gravy.
SPEAKER_02And everyone is scheduled to bring stuff. We'll see what really happens. And this is uh my in-law family. Shout out to the in-laws. I don't think any of them.
SPEAKER_01No, we can't say that.
SPEAKER_02I can't?
SPEAKER_01Blast out. Blast out blast out.
SPEAKER_02Blast out. Whatever it is. See, I haven't no, I haven't found it yet. So I gotta use shout-out until I found the replacement.
SPEAKER_01Someone's gonna email something.
SPEAKER_02I hope so. I hope so.
SPEAKER_01So do you make your own gravy?
SPEAKER_02Uh Mike does, yeah. He makes really good gravy. That's why he's doing it.
SPEAKER_01See, yeah. My dad makes some good gravy too. He got it from my grandpa. You know, you know, it passes on. Yes. Who knows what's in there?
SPEAKER_02Uh I don't care. It's good. As long as it's good. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01Hard to find good store-bought gravy.
SPEAKER_02No, you can't.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean if you get it, you gotta doctor it up.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you do. You have to add to it. Same with stuffing. Same with stuffing.
SPEAKER_01I love stuffing. You don't like it?
SPEAKER_02It's all right.
SPEAKER_01Do you like homemade stuffing? You just don't like it. Yeah, my wife and kids don't like it.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. It's there's so many other things to have. Why do I want to waste my time on bread crumbs? With vegetables chopped up in them.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Christ. Next.
SPEAKER_02How about green bean casserole?
SPEAKER_01Love it. I do too. Well, she makes a really good one.
SPEAKER_02Uh soupy or dryish?
SPEAKER_01Mid.
SPEAKER_02Mid. I like sometimes it's a little too soupy for me.
SPEAKER_01I don't like soupy.
SPEAKER_02No. I like it a little more like a casserole. And you cannot put enough of those onions on top.
SPEAKER_01No. You can actually, I think people should layer that shit.
SPEAKER_02No, because you're gonna get too mushy.
SPEAKER_01But could you maybe do you couldn't do it?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_01There's no way to do it. Tried it.
SPEAKER_02Done. All right. So, of course, it's a food. All the food, the food, the food, turkey, gravy, potatoes. Uh we have mashed potatoes a lot.
SPEAKER_01You know, you're really fucking up my fast five right now. Can I do my fast five? It plays into this.
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah, go ahead. Ready? Do it.
SPEAKER_01Wishbone.
SPEAKER_02Uh kind of gross, but hero.
SPEAKER_01Cranberry sauce.
SPEAKER_02Uh I'm gonna say it's a dick.
SPEAKER_01Candied yams.
SPEAKER_02Uh yams, yes. Candied them up. No.
SPEAKER_01It's stuffing. You already dicked that one up. Yeah, and um football.
SPEAKER_02I say for Thanksgiving football hero. All right. Okay. Especially this year with the Lions.
SPEAKER_01They're kicking some major ass.
SPEAKER_02They are, and I don't even watch football or I have this year, but people are gonna jinx them.
SPEAKER_01I keep saying how good they are.
SPEAKER_02Alright, they're horrible. Horrible.
SPEAKER_01Awful.
SPEAKER_02What are my fast five? Oh, okay. We'll do those later. Uh, how about the sweet potatoes with marshmallows, though? Do we need really need those?
SPEAKER_01I'll eat them, but it's not no. No. What's that salad with marshmallows?
SPEAKER_02I don't like marshmallows.
SPEAKER_01You really have something against marshmallows. I do. I don't know. Uh, we gotta put this on video because if people could say your facial expressions while you're talking about this, holy shit, you'd be getting emails.
SPEAKER_02I just feel like marshmallows are again, there's many things I would like to eat over a marshmallow. If I'm on a desert island and it's between liver and onions and marshmallows, I will eat a marshmallow.
SPEAKER_01Really?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Liver paste?
SPEAKER_02Nope.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I love it. My father-in-law brought me over some today as a surprise. Wasn't that nice?
SPEAKER_02That's very nice.
SPEAKER_01And it's really good. It's from purchase.
SPEAKER_02Oh, they make it good, is what I'm told.
SPEAKER_01So if you're on a desert. Oh wait, is it desert island or deserted island?
SPEAKER_02It could be either or.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02No, I guess it's deserted.
SPEAKER_01I'm putting you on a deserted island. And you're there and you're gonna You're taking marshmallows.
SPEAKER_02Over liver and onions, yeah.
SPEAKER_01You're gonna die.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna die anyway. Oh, here we go again. Why would I want to eat liver and onions? Liver and onions is not gonna save me.
SPEAKER_01You don't know that. There's iron in that. There's nothing in the onion, though.
SPEAKER_02It's a filter. I don't want to eat any filters. What? The liver is a filter organ. So, but no. Okay, so we've determined food. We got that. How about the other thing I like about Thanksgiving is that TV is very encouraged. You know, a lot of times they're like, turn the TV off. No, watch all the TV you want. If you're not watching football, you can watch hallmarkee Christmas movies. You can do that. That's the acceptable that weekend.
SPEAKER_01Yes. We can only there's a a law in our home. You can only watch on Thanksgiving or after. Hey, is there anything particular to watch that day?
SPEAKER_02Um, like a Jason Bateman movie.
SPEAKER_01Oh, really?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Like which one?
SPEAKER_02Uh what's a Christmas one he's in?
SPEAKER_01Office Christmas party.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01Have you seen that?
SPEAKER_02I have. It's funny. Yeah, I do like that one. So yeah, I'm gonna watch that.
SPEAKER_01We usually break out planes, trains, and automobiles.
SPEAKER_02I already watched it.
unknownShh.
SPEAKER_02It was you can do that.
SPEAKER_01It's a Thanksgiving movie.
SPEAKER_02I think I can watch it any time of the year because it's a good movie.
SPEAKER_01Kate, you can do whatever you want whenever.
SPEAKER_02It was randomly on. It was randomly on the other day just on a channel that no commercial channel either. So I had to watch it because Plains Trains Automobiles.
SPEAKER_01Hey, back to your buddy.
SPEAKER_02Which one?
SPEAKER_01Jason.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01Um I know you guys went to dinner last week, right? But um hit a lot of his movies have been popping up on Netflix.
SPEAKER_02Oh, really? That's good.
SPEAKER_01It's probably because we talk about them.
SPEAKER_02Probably. You're welcome.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. Okay, so we cover movies. We cover TV.
SPEAKER_01TV.
SPEAKER_02Football.
SPEAKER_01Food.
SPEAKER_02Four-day weekends. So when I was working, that was the best holiday, is Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because you get a four-day, most people get a four-day weekend. Not even most people, some people get a four-day weekend.
SPEAKER_01Not if you're working retail. No.
SPEAKER_02But you have to know that you are working Black Friday. Come on. And then um, and family, like you said, but there's no pressure to buy everyone a gift. Because it's Thanksgiving. There's no gift giving. Although, you know what, I started this tradition, it's all my own damn fault. But I so love Advent calendar that at Thanksgiving I started giving my kids an advent calendar.
SPEAKER_01You mentioned something about that, right?
SPEAKER_02And so I do have advent calendars for the kids. Are you ruining the surprise?
SPEAKER_01They know they're coming.
SPEAKER_02They know they're getting. They don't know what they're getting. Well, they kind of do because they helped me pick them out this year because I wasn't gonna do them, but they were like, well, if you're if you change your mind, we would accept these.
SPEAKER_01That's one way to get them. Smart.
SPEAKER_02Then they there they are waiting for them. So how about the pilgrims and the natives? Are they heroes or dicks or I'm gonna just say they're all heroes. Um, just just broadband them like that?
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_02Wow. Why?
SPEAKER_01It's Thanksgiving. So you're feeling generous. Well, I don't know what really happened. I don't know who was good, who was bad. I I the assumption is the pilgrims were the bad people.
SPEAKER_02It is the assumption. And they probably were because pilgrims they're not known for their uh warmth to the natives. No. Although they had to be they had to uh get along somewhat just to survive. Or you know, why didn't the natives kill them all? I think they tried, yeah. I think they're wishing they did.
SPEAKER_01You gotta think too. It was probably like two different types of animals coming together, and you want to protect your own, and so people are, you know, horrible.
SPEAKER_02And then they probably intermixed somewhat.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_02You know, because humans do that, and that's fine, but then you you know, you're one big tribe.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I'm still gonna say heroes.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01I mean the pilgrims were dicks, but I gotta say, there's some things, if it hadn't been for the pilgrims.
SPEAKER_02What? Smallpox?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, maybe we never had smallpox.
SPEAKER_02The natives wouldn't have. Uh all right.
SPEAKER_01Well, that's horrible. Yeah, they did that on purpose.
SPEAKER_02I know.
SPEAKER_01I mean, that's what they tell us anyway.
SPEAKER_02All right, well, let's let's totally switch. You really bring this one down. I know. And now we're gonna go, we're gonna bring it back up and we're gonna talk about parade, the Macy's Day Parade, which I this won't come as a shock to you, but I'm not a huge parade fan. Oh however, the Thanksgiving Day Parade um brings a lot of joy to people, so whatever. Um the first time it happened was in 1924, and they didn't have the balloon animals, of course, so they took the animals out of the zoo. Yeah, just to just central park paraded them around. Yeah, well, that's I thought that was kind of fun. Yeah, humans, and then and then the animals get to get out. At least they got to get out. Maybe they escaped. We don't know.
SPEAKER_01I bet you there's some stories.
SPEAKER_02And what float do you think? think has made the most appearances in the Macy's Day Parade. It's a classic.
SPEAKER_01Is it the Santa?
SPEAKER_02No. Santa's at the end. He's not afloat. He's a real dude.
SPEAKER_01But isn't he on a float?
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but no, I'm talking about balloons. What balloon do you think made them made the 39 appearances? Ooh, good guess. And it is a cartoon, but it is Snoopy. Fudge.
SPEAKER_01I love Snoop.
SPEAKER_02Well yeah, Snoopy. He's still there.
SPEAKER_01You know, I always thought that song Hang on Sloopy was Hang on Snoopy.
SPEAKER_02Hang on Snoopy. Don't fall off your doghouse.
SPEAKER_01And now it was only a few years ago that it was like it's Hang on Sloopy. What?
SPEAKER_02Did your whole world change? Yeah kind of everything tilted a little bit that day. The other thing I read that I thought was interesting about turkeys was that 46 million turkeys are cooked in the U.S. Because you know Thanksgiving is a U.S. holiday although Canada also has a Thanksgiving day last month. Was it last month? Yeah.
SPEAKER_0159 cents a pound I think it was for yeah it was a good deal.
SPEAKER_02It was way cheaper than it has but turkey.
SPEAKER_01A poor turkey's life is worth 59 cents a pound.
SPEAKER_02Turkeys I love turkey.
SPEAKER_01Nobody else in my family really you made them a hero I think on one of the times didn't you I would say they're a hero again.
SPEAKER_02Me and Ben Franklin like them.
SPEAKER_01Speaking of turkeys do you know how TV dinners came about leftovers? God damn it Kate. Yes Swanson the company they actually uh didn't sell uh all the turkeys that they had and so they cut them up or whatever and they put them into these dinners with some sides and a little bit of applesauce.
SPEAKER_02That's where it happened yeah when I was a kid growing up a TV dinner was a big deal. You can get uh the turkey and gravy mashed potatoes and corn. I brought that up today at work we're talking about TV dinners and this one guy was like man I hated them because the brownie oh the brownie you know how it would get it'd get higher on the outside yeah yeah he was my he was probably of a microwave age though we had to bake ourselves yeah he's younger than me yeah he probably nuked him yeah wait a second it took just as long didn't it no 15 20 minutes it doesn't take as long but it wasn't as good interesting that's the only time I've read salisbury steak um and hey I used I used to like TV dinners what was your favorite one probably the turkey and gravy was pretty good because I had stuffing in there the chicken uh the other myth about turkeys is that tryptophan makes you tired that's a myth it's actually just hanging around perpetuated by Seinfo it's it's actually overeating that usually makes you sleepy not the tryptophan don't want to fall asleep this year because the lions oh that's right well they're usually duh well I don't know what time do they start like at noon I don't know yeah noon one there's another game too what Dallas usually plays that day but I know the lions always play but I don't know who else always plays because if you you know if you got hired by the lions they would say can you work on Thanksgiving and you would say no and they said you can't make it I'm sorry we have to pass and that's why their team was so poor for so many years because nobody wanted to work on Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_01That's a good point. Yeah that's probably certainly true.
SPEAKER_02And there's facts behind it. Yeah I believe it uh what about the presidential turkey pardon before you go on um well all right I mean is that a good thing you think I mean you think it's a stupid thing.
SPEAKER_01We're still gonna eat you were on fire today. Well we're still gonna eat turkey did you ever see free birds the cartoon no oh my god Owen Wilson is the voice of the main turkey and it is hilarious because it's about a turkey that's get gets pardoned and like takes on this life of his own you gotta go home and watch that okay free birds.
SPEAKER_02Yep okay sorry um I only have one that's all I have about turkeys um let's talk about the weekend days though the day before Thanksgiving the Wednesday before at night is called drinksgiving oh boy it is I remember those days because everybody's home everybody goes to the barn everybody gets drunk because they know they can chop down tomorrow Black Wednesday some people call it I don't miss it. No no and then the Friday after of course is the famous Black Friday biggest shop day you know what though I I thought this was interesting. It's also a big day for plumbers I don't think I need to say why just burped up excuse me so much so that the plumbers call it Brown Friday. Come on is it because of the all the flushing and the pooping and the stuff in the sewer yeah and probably the stuff the food going down okay not not through the people but just going you know in garbage disposals and whatever and gravy people are born gravy down the things you know they are you can't do that's liquid gold well that's why the plumbers call it Brown Friday. Oh my god I thought that back that's that's some that's actually pretty interesting I like that okay that's what I have on Thanksgiving and so overall I say the I give Thanksgiving a big hero especially for working people who get a four day weekend man that was the biggest thing it's like yes yeah no I say hero too and it's just I don't know family family family like one of my favorites I just like chilling out maybe playing some board games later in the day um wait I forgot what one thing what jingle bells is actually a Thanksgiving song really yes the guy actually wrote it for Thanksgiving heading over to grandma's yep dashing through the snow in his one horse open sleigh it was a Thanksgiving song yeah that makes sense yeah I wish we could play it but we'd be in trouble and I'm not gonna sing it sing it like share how would you do that jingle bells accountable something like that we need a the the techno um yeah we're not that high tech yet no we will be though well so you're saying hero I'm saying you got a fast five you did your fast five yep I didn't say my what I thought mine were well say same again wishbone hero cranberry sauce dick candy games dick stuffing double hero football hero wow go ahead sorry okay so how about we've we talked about probably all of these black friday dick i b I agree cyber monday dick okay I say hero it is a hero compared to black friday um yeah I just thought you know it was how it started people would go to work and shop because that's where they had good internet so that was always a fun thing how about Secret Santa I don't like Secret Santa I say dick it people would make you participate and then you guess yeah how about white elephant gift exchange that's where the bizarro gifts yes that's heroic yeah I think twist and how about you know how I feel about this uh America knows how I feel about this advent calendars hero oh yeah I would give the world uh eat I would give everyone in the world an advent calendar if I could line up here in Alpina Michigan and I will hand them out we'll make some for next Christmas okay if the show is still on the air speaking of we're preparing in advance oh wait are you done with your list I am yep I got them all we're preparing in advance and everyone's ever get ready because March is going to be big save save the date in March. Yeah it's our gonna be our one year anniversary we got that's pretty far away yeah it's not though it's not we've got to start prepping we've got to get sponsors a location so again any if anybody has any ideas about that or about how to replace the term shout out yeah we really need help on that because I don't think blast out is gonna work blast out sounds not quite right it's something like you're going to the back Saturday or whatever Brown Friday yeah I don't like it. Yeah but but uh people can email us sure where can they email us? Uh hero or dick2023 at gmail.com nice job thanks I've been practicing yeah good job all right anything else we want to say about Thanksgiving or no I'm excited though okay all right everybody have a great Thanksgiving happy Thanksgiving everyone and we'll talk to you after that right on bye bye bye
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