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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick, Ep. 16 - RUSH
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Hero or Dick, Episode 16 - "RUSH: Rock Legends or Just a Rush of Sound?"
"Rock on, listeners! Kate and KJ are back in your earbuds with Episode 16 of *Hero or Dick*, and this time, we're cranking up the volume to 11 as we dive into the legendary world of RUSH! 🎸🤘
In this episode, we're dissecting everything from Geddy Lee's iconic voice to Neil Peart's struggles. We're talking albums that defined generations, the evolution of their sound, and why RUSH's fan base might just be one of the most dedicated in the music world.
But hey, it wouldn't be a Kate and KJ show without some tangents, right? We'll be bouncing around topics faster than Alex Lifeson's guitar riffs, and trust us, it's a conversation you don't want to miss.
Special shout-out time - BALLYHOOS! We’re giving a thunderous round of applause to some listeners who've rocked our world as of late. 🌟
And of course, it's time for Kate's Fast Five, because KJ... well, KJ did what KJ does best and totally forgot his list. Again. 🙄
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Plug in, tune up, and let's rush into the incredible saga of RUSH on this week's Hero or Dick. Thanks for tuning in, and keep on rockin'!" 🎧🚀
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Hello. Hello? Hello? Hello. Testing. Testees. Testees. Submits. Um I think we're in we're in action here. Um today is November 28th, 2020.
SPEAKER_0023.
SPEAKER_0223. We're broadcasting from Horsefeather Studio until our new studio is built. And Kate brought in some leftover Thanksgiving dinner for us.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh. So many leftovers. We're still getting rid of them.
SPEAKER_02What do you mean? Give it away.
SPEAKER_01Or throwing them away in it today.
SPEAKER_02To who?
SPEAKER_01To the garbage.
SPEAKER_02Don't you feed animals all things?
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, we do. We put in a mulch pile. It depends on what it is. Some stuff you don't put in a mulch pile. You don't put everything in a mulch.
SPEAKER_02Turkey carcasses.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02I made soup with them. Do you have bears?
SPEAKER_01No. I mean, but I haven't seen them, so they don't exist.
SPEAKER_02You see them like anything else out there?
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah, we have coyotes, foxes. I like the foxes. They eat the red squirrels.
SPEAKER_02They eat the red squirrels?
SPEAKER_01They do.
SPEAKER_02Red foxes eat red squirrels?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It's a whole red thing.
SPEAKER_02Do you think um skunks? Have you seen more foxes this year than usual?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_02I have.
SPEAKER_01Good. I like foxes. But I think they ebb and flow with the coyote population because coyotes are the alpha dog. They take out the foxes.
SPEAKER_02I'm hearing a crackle.
SPEAKER_01There's a little crackle.
SPEAKER_02People are gonna have to deal with it, probably, because now they're really gonna hear it too. Yeah, now we pointed out. Good job. Um anyway, what else? Anything else in Alpina we need to talk about? I like doing that. Snowed. It's snowed. Tomorrow's week 40, though, don't worry.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. Why did I shovel then?
SPEAKER_02I know. Why didn't you? When you texted me that, I'm like, I well, I'm glad I did. I just it's good to get out there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was a good exercise. No, nobody beeped at me, but man, I hate that. What? I'm fucking shoveling here. If you know me, stop and help me. Don't wave.
SPEAKER_02Uh, I thought when you texted me, I was like, I should ask her if she needs help, but then I thought I gotta make this pot of coffee before I go.
SPEAKER_01No, it's not horrible.
SPEAKER_02You got big buck space on one of the.
SPEAKER_01No, on First Street or on Washington, one way the wind is blowing. It's just ripping. So one side of the building's usually swept clean by the wind. And today it was Washington side. Sometimes it's the first if it's coming off the lake.
SPEAKER_02How cold does it get in that building?
SPEAKER_01Uh it gets pretty cold, but I mean, we have a heater.
SPEAKER_02Like you have a like a boiler in that?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there's two of them, actually.
SPEAKER_02I bet. I know.
SPEAKER_01And here comes yours right now.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah. I turned that down, but we got a crackle, we got the furnace, and I may or may not pass gas.
SPEAKER_01Well, I hope you don't.
SPEAKER_02I don't tell you when I do. You never notice that.
SPEAKER_01Well, when the blower wasn't blowing on me then. Now it is. So what's today's topic, Kim?
SPEAKER_02Rush.
SPEAKER_01Rush.
SPEAKER_02The band rush.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You have fun memories of rush, don't you?
SPEAKER_01I do. I I You've seen them. I have not. I should have went some. Shoulda. You should never not go to the concert. Whose? Anybody's.
SPEAKER_02Okay. True. Millie Vanilly. Girl, just say it's true.
SPEAKER_01I would have went, and then you could say, I saw them lip sync.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like everybody else does now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. See, they started it. See what they started?
SPEAKER_02I was watching a set here I go again. Off topic already, but it has to do with music. We were watching um, we never watched Saturday Night Live anymore, but my lovely bride recorded one uh and we watched it, and I still I couldn't tell you who was on it. But the whole cast, except for Keenan Thompson, is new. Keenan's, you know, there's a he's been there for 20 years. He's got like a 30-year contract or something.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02He was on uh Smartless not too long ago.
SPEAKER_01But anyway, he's got a good new movie out, you know. Good burger 2. Come on. It's true.
SPEAKER_02What is he, the owner? He's not still working on that.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I didn't see it.
SPEAKER_02Maybe I'll have to go through it. Anyway, so we're watching the band, which I don't remember who that was anyway, but all I kept thinking is, are they lip syncing? Because it looked like they were lip syncing. Oh, it was the fucking Jonas brothers.
SPEAKER_01Oh. I didn't even know they were still a thing. Oh, I don't know. But I watched uh and I will tell you who was not lip syncing.
SPEAKER_02Who?
SPEAKER_01Foo Fighters.
SPEAKER_02Oh Dave. No, they wouldn't. Oh wait.
SPEAKER_01Oh, he was rocking it.
SPEAKER_02But it turns out I Googled. He was hilarious on there too. He probably was in all the skits, eh?
SPEAKER_01He was in the skits. He's he's everything.
SPEAKER_02I worry about it.
SPEAKER_01Could he be president? Why do you worry about him?
SPEAKER_02He's got a bit of a drinking problem. From what I saw in Hot Wings, anyway.
SPEAKER_01Man, every time every time. You ever watch Hot Wings? Yes, and he is grounded. He has a good wife. He has a nice family. He's fine. Let him have a couple cocktails.
SPEAKER_02Came from Nirvana and made it. He made it. Unlike the guy that was the lead singer.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02He didn't make it. Anyhow, I looked it up and they say that they weren't lip syncing. So I guess Jonas Brothers are that good.
SPEAKER_03Wow.
SPEAKER_02I don't but I mean. I don't know. I don't know what to say about things anymore. Like Rush, we're gonna talk about them. And I I have opinions on them.
SPEAKER_01Well, before opinions.
SPEAKER_02You want to go into it?
SPEAKER_01Let's get some facts.
SPEAKER_02Okay. They were formed in Toronto, Canada.
SPEAKER_01They're all Canadian.
SPEAKER_021968.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Agreed.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01It's Getty Lee.
SPEAKER_02Alex Lifeson.
SPEAKER_01And Neil Purt.
SPEAKER_02But initially, John.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, there was some like every band. They went through a few, but that's been these three guys have been the lineup for ever. 50 years.
SPEAKER_02And yeah, speaking of not seeing a band, you had 50 years to see them. I did too, though. I know. I'll get back to it later.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I never really, I never had the chance, like somebody said, Do you want to go to the Rush concert? I be I should have made the opportunity.
SPEAKER_02Did someone say that?
SPEAKER_01No. No. That's what I'm saying. I know somebody who has had opportunities. Would you still go to a concert? Yeah, I go to them every now and then. You do have been to one in a while.
SPEAKER_02You're too cool for us.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you did? George Clinton in the Parliament phone?
SPEAKER_02Oh shit.
SPEAKER_01That was a while ago now. Let's see. What's the last one that I saw? I'll have to think about that. But yeah, it depends on who it is. Do you wear the earplugs? Yeah, oh yeah. Because you can still hear.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I have to really like the person to put up with all the other people in the audience. I would love to go to a concert with like 12 people.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01There.
SPEAKER_02A small venue. 12 people.
SPEAKER_01But I'm not that big money yet that I can hire, so Dave will be able to do that.
SPEAKER_02I bet you we can get somebody to come to our one-year anniversary party and march.
SPEAKER_01Okay, well, we'll work on that. Let's work on that.
SPEAKER_02Not rush, though.
SPEAKER_01No, they're well, Getty Lee could come and Alex.
SPEAKER_02Getty. They could. We'll see. Um, so their first single that they released was a cover of a Buddy Holly song.
SPEAKER_01Was it?
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_01I thought it was Working Man.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_01Okay. That's her first single.
SPEAKER_021973 they had a single and what was it? God damn, I don't remember now. But I was like, I love that. I love Buddy Holly, you know.
SPEAKER_01I like Buddy Holly.
SPEAKER_02Died with the big bopper. He did. And that other dude was.
SPEAKER_01We'll have to do him. We'll have to do a show about it.
SPEAKER_02Came up in a trivia question the other day.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he has an interesting story.
SPEAKER_02Which one?
SPEAKER_01All of them. All of them do. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02What a way to go.
SPEAKER_01Not a good way to go.
SPEAKER_02The day the music died.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Whalen Jennings almost got on the plane. Did you know that?
SPEAKER_02I think I remember that.
SPEAKER_01He flipped a coin with um uh Buddy Holly. Richie Valence with Richie. And Richie won.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he won. Or lost. I think he lost. Yeah, he's lost. Oh, who knows? We don't know. That other side might be okay.
SPEAKER_03It might be.
SPEAKER_02Alright, so the early struggles started with their debut album, 1974, which was called Working Man, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And it was not a No Why?
SPEAKER_01But then it got some play on the radio, the actual song Working Man, which if you've listened to classic rack radio, you've heard that song, whether you try to or not.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01And so it it still stands. I mean, people still love it. And then That's when their first drummer left. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Rutzy. Johnny. Johnny Rutzy.
SPEAKER_01That's a good name, too.
SPEAKER_02Mr. Pert.
SPEAKER_01Rutzy. Hey, Rutzy.
SPEAKER_02Purt came along. Who Pert, Neil Purt. Poor guy had some trouble in his life.
SPEAKER_01He has. But overall, I think he would tell you, oh he's passed. But I think he would have told you before he passed. He he did have a pretty charmed life overall.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Except for his wife.
SPEAKER_01Except for his wife. Okay, let's let's get into that later. You're getting way ahead.
SPEAKER_02I'll edit this.
SPEAKER_01Way ahead. So then that uh was Working Man a Fly by Night?
SPEAKER_02I was foreshadowing. Oh, okay. To keep people engaged. I don't want him to tune out.
SPEAKER_01There's only one.
SPEAKER_02Fly by Night.
SPEAKER_01Fly by Night, 1975. And then came my personal favorite in 1976. 2112.
SPEAKER_02That one was bizarre, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_01It's pretty bizarre. I listened to it yesterday. Did you? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I was listening to parts.
SPEAKER_01When Neil Peart died. It's got one. Okay, on the album, the first side of the album is one song.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That's that's a that's a long song. Kind of big.
SPEAKER_01So that was really it was progressive. That's why they're kind of the grandfathers of progressive rock. Or some people call it prog rock.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and it is an album that I think would be in that era, the beginning of that era, that you have to buy the album and listen to the album. You can't be piecing that shit out. You can't just listen to one song from it. You gotta sit down, burn one, and listen to the whole album. Burn many.
SPEAKER_02Is that how you did that Viking Rush?
SPEAKER_01Uh that's how I was introduced to it, let's say.
SPEAKER_02Then I was they're very um a lover of the weed. A lot of uh instrumental.
SPEAKER_01Uh yes.
SPEAKER_02I mean they're very they're very talented, very technical.
SPEAKER_01Yes. And they don't rely on lyrics for the song.
SPEAKER_02That's probably a good thing. Um other lyrics, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Some wizards in the basement. Neil wrote well most of their lyrics.
SPEAKER_02Like some guys that were really good at Dungeons and Dragons are good at music too.
SPEAKER_01That's true. And um, one thing I wrote down is that you know, metal people loved them, but so did Geeky people. Yeah, yeah. Because they ooh, dragons, ooh, wizards, yeah. We like that.
SPEAKER_02It's kind of cool too, because as they moved along, uh they kind of pulled back from the guitar sound and then they got the synthesized keyboards and then that was like the 80s era, I think. Yep.
SPEAKER_01Like Tom Sawyer. Well, it was a little bit after Tom Sawyer, let's say. Yeah. Then they kind of went back to the guitar rock in the 80s, late 80s, early 90s. And then they kind of well, they didn't kind of then they they had their sound. I mean, they definitely had a sound, and it wasn't just that high getty-lee voice, you know. Although that was very distinctive too. Yeah, and you know it. Yeah, you when you hear him saying, you go, yeah, that's getty lee. And I don't think I could listen to it for 12 hours, but you know, good for you for doing that, right?
SPEAKER_02Right, it could feel like 12 hours if you're a burning one.
SPEAKER_01It's good. Um, it's kind of like uh, you know, Bob Dylan, he's whatever he is to people, but after a while, man, his voice greats on me.
SPEAKER_02Right, yeah. How can his voice sound different now? Because if you hear some songs, it doesn't sound like what? Because he's old. Well, and then like Steven Tyler. Remember like the first songs he had?
SPEAKER_01Dream on like the high notes, but now he can't. His voice just sounds like all that singing problems.
SPEAKER_02Who does?
SPEAKER_01Steven Tyler, I think, has throat problems.
SPEAKER_02Oh well, that comes with the territory.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't think it's cancer, but it's I don't know, some trap.
SPEAKER_02Dreading his vocal cards, man. Yeah. Um, one thing about not one thing, there's lots, but rush. Speaking of Dungeons and Dragons, Star Wars, all that, those people are diehard fans. And these Rush fans are diehards.
SPEAKER_01I mean they are diehard fans.
SPEAKER_02It's they could poop on a record, and people would love it.
SPEAKER_01Well, I don't know about that, but I think because that band is so they're good to their fans. They're loyal, they're as loyal to their fans as their fans are loyal to them.
SPEAKER_03Good point.
SPEAKER_01Although I will say Neil Pert in his later days was kind of freaked out by you know autographs and stuff, and he opted out of that part of the show. Getty Lee would sit and sign, and Neil said, you know, I don't think so. I think that's kind of creepy that people want my signature, and I don't choose to do that. So yeah, thanks for listening to my music, but I'm not gonna, you know, do that. And I guess, you know, personal choice work for him.
SPEAKER_02And you need somebody like that in the band.
SPEAKER_01And I think they also had a certain kind of Canadian politeness to their again, to their fans, but to everybody. They weren't like the the Motley crew come into a hotel room and trash it, you know. They probably made their beds when they left.
SPEAKER_02They probably did.
SPEAKER_01I don't know that.
SPEAKER_02But you think they were like, you know.
SPEAKER_01Here's a good example of how polite they are. So I asked a couple of my friends, you know, that actually went and saw them. That actually went and saw them. And um, this is what one of my friends said. Shout out to Paul.
SPEAKER_02Hi, Paul.
SPEAKER_01Uh, once we had tickets Wasn't Paul supposed to be on the show? He could be, but he lives in Chicago. He can call in. Paul is Paul.
SPEAKER_02Chicago.
SPEAKER_01Once we had tickets for a rush concert at an outdoor venue here in Chicago about a dozen years ago. So not even that long ago. It was a rainy, stormy day, and the band had to postpone the show, although the ticket did say rain or shine. So when we returned for the rescheduled show, everybody got free rush ball cap that said Chicago and it had the rain date on it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Wow, what the heck?
SPEAKER_01I know.
SPEAKER_02How quick did they have those made up?
SPEAKER_01Well, they had the rain date. I mean, they there was a rescheduled show. Oh, I get it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, okay. That's cool.
SPEAKER_01It's still cool. That was very uh kind of them to do that. They didn't have to do that.
SPEAKER_02I wonder if you can find those on eBay.
SPEAKER_01Uh well, I don't think Paul's selling his. Hey, how'd you get that message from Paul? Well, I have it. I had it on here.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yes, so you have people reaching out to you and want to participate in the show. What if they want to like send us an email?
SPEAKER_01Then they can email us at hero or dick2023 at gmail.com. I forgot what it was. I was just looking to check. Did you check it? Uh yeah, I have been.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01Nothing. Masters. Um, I got some texts, but no emails. So then other thing Paul said that, and I thought this was uh very descriptive, and I'm sure it's more than just Paul. Rush was one of the first bands that I discovered as a teenager without the influence of my older siblings. And Paul's a baby of six. So I think, like Paul, a lot of people called Rush their own.
SPEAKER_02I like it.
SPEAKER_01And I get that. Yeah. And they were not egomaniacs.
SPEAKER_02No, they don't seem like it all.
SPEAKER_01They never, like he says, they never went overboard on drugs and booze. They always gave plenty of time for sound checks. Yeah. They were they were responsible. They were Canadian.
SPEAKER_02That's probably why they lasted so long.
SPEAKER_01Probably. Probably.
SPEAKER_02I don't think the Rolling Stones were very responsible.
SPEAKER_01Uh they just that's dumb fucking luck.
SPEAKER_02Is what that is. What's awesome though? Is Keith Richards always look the same.
SPEAKER_01He doesn't if you look at the old, old stuff, but somebody sold their soul to the devil, if not all of them. Keith Richards and Mick Jagger for sure did. And I don't even think Keith knew he did.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_01No. No. No. He didn't know. Anyway. So um the other thing I really liked about this band is that they were still friends right to the end. What end? Well, they ended when Neil Purt died in 2020.
SPEAKER_02How'd he die?
SPEAKER_01I think he had cancer.
SPEAKER_02Brain cancer. Yeah, yeah, cancer.
SPEAKER_01And he didn't. Tell us about his he had some catastrophic stuff happen to him.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, his 19-year-old daughter died in a single car accident in Ontario, I guess.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02She was 19. Bummer.
SPEAKER_01Going back to school.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Back and forth to school.
SPEAKER_02And then about a year later, his wife dies of cancer, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. He said from a broken heart.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then he threw it in. He went, I'm done.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01He jumped on his motorcycle and drove around, he took a long sabbatical traveling North America and Central America on his motorcycle, and he logged over 55,000 miles.
SPEAKER_02That's impressive.
SPEAKER_01That's really impressive. And then he got back and he's like, okay, I think I can do it again. He got a new wife, I think, and that helped. And I think he has another kid too.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so he started a new life.
SPEAKER_02He kind of did the spiritual journey on a motorcycle. We did.
SPEAKER_01Did you have a lot of people who did like Shay Shay and uh what's his friend's name?
SPEAKER_02Who's Shay?
SPEAKER_01Shay Guabera. That's not his name.
SPEAKER_02You're making shit up.
SPEAKER_01No, you know. Um, the Cuban guy.
SPEAKER_02Which Cuban guy?
SPEAKER_01The the guy who led Cuba. The gorillas.
SPEAKER_02Fidel Castro.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Fidel and Shay. Oh. Got on their motorcycles and went around South America.
SPEAKER_02With those guys? No. Oh, Jesus. I'm getting confused here.
SPEAKER_01No, no. Sorry. That's okay. I said like that. I would have been like, holy shit, that's awesome. That would be really cool. But no.
SPEAKER_02He might have.
SPEAKER_01Maybe he took inspiration from them.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I guess so. Huh. That was a different hair.
SPEAKER_01What? About Shay?
SPEAKER_02No, the motorcycle. Did you cruise around on a motorcycle? I know you did. I did, but uh what?
SPEAKER_01I've never well I have uh have driven a motorcycle, but it wasn't pretty. But um Kate is like riding on the back.
SPEAKER_02Kate sounds all reasonable and put together, but I guarantee fucking to you she's got a wild side and could tell some stories, and I think we should desote devote an episode to that.
SPEAKER_01But it's not as a motorcycle chick. No, it was like the lamest motorcycle chick ever. You know.
SPEAKER_02Who can be lame on a motorcycle? Look at them, they all think they're cool.
SPEAKER_01You think you're cool and and so they pull up and they're just like, look at me. Look at me, I'm so cool.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01Uh no, lame.
SPEAKER_02Well, you do what you love, right? And that's what these guys did. They did with or without motorcycles. Uh they sold 40 million records.
SPEAKER_01Wow, that's a lot.
SPEAKER_02It's a fuck ton. I mean, that's a lot. Sorry, mom.
SPEAKER_01Getty. And you know why they call him Getty? G-E-D-D-Y? Because his name was Gary, and his mom was, gosh, was she she was from Eastern Europe because she was in Auschwitz. She survived, obviously.
SPEAKER_02Oh, instead of Gary, Getty.
SPEAKER_01And she'd yell out the back door, Getty, Getty. I love it. And so all his friends thought his name was Getty. So we changed it.
unknownShit.
SPEAKER_01He's got a new book out too, My F in Life.
SPEAKER_02Really? Mm-hmm. I didn't see that part.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, wait, maybe I did.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um what else you got?
SPEAKER_01Um, let's see.
SPEAKER_02They weren't moved. Like they're one reason that I like Rush. Probably only one of the ones that I do. Just kidding.
SPEAKER_01I just don't connect with them?
SPEAKER_02No. I tried really hard too the last few days. Like, read because if I read lyrics, because being I appreciate words and writing. I just I but I'm like, when you listen to the music, you're like, oh, these guys are talented. There's nobody like that. It's incredible. But you just either connect or you don't. But somebody seriously appreciate them, and I do hope Getty comes to play at our show.
SPEAKER_01That would be great. Getty.
SPEAKER_02Um but I will yell at the movie I've mentioned before, uh I Love You Man.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02They're big Russian.
SPEAKER_01And you know, and I didn't look. Did you look to see what movies their music is in?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I love you, man.
SPEAKER_01Well, what else?
SPEAKER_02Freaks and Geeks. The TV show and Family Guy often.
SPEAKER_01I think that I think that when you hear Rush, it really evokes a time and place, no matter what it is for you, if it's the 70s or 80s, or even a little bit beyond that. Um yeah, they are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, they should be.
SPEAKER_01They should be, yeah. 2013. They were inducted. Uh yeah. Um oh, here is um another friend of mine. Hey Greg.
SPEAKER_02Hey Greg.
SPEAKER_01Was um he said that Russia's one of the greatest of all time. Oh yeah. And we kind of bantered back and forth with our texts, and he said, Should twenty one twelve be a musical? It probably should. I said no, just for personal reasons, but you you hate musicals. Uh no, I like musicals, but I do think it It takes away from your memory of it if you you know if you I I have that memory of that album being in junior high and having fun.
SPEAKER_02Oh, so it's gonna a musical.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. And what it you know, number I don't know. Do you have dancers like ballet or interpretive dance? Or you got I don't I don't think it can be interpreted into a musical. That's not to say, Greg, that somebody won't do it.
SPEAKER_02Maybe Greg will do it.
SPEAKER_01I doubt it, but he could.
SPEAKER_02What's Greg doing right now, working?
SPEAKER_01No, he retired.
SPEAKER_02Oh, Greg.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Greg.
SPEAKER_02Lucky. No, not luck. You work for retirement.
SPEAKER_01He did, he worked hard. I worked with him for many years and he was a very hard worker.
SPEAKER_02Awesome.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, I'm glad you're getting some input from people.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I ask people to be on the show and they tell me.
SPEAKER_01They go, what show?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, what fo? What for? What for?
SPEAKER_01So I say uh even though Russia's not my favorite band in the world, I say they're heroes because they're always learning and changing, even when they could have written it out on their laurels. They tried that. Let's try these synthesizers. Everyone will love that. And everyone went, oh, we don't love that. But they tried it. They did it. They did it. And for their Canadian politeness, that is always a hero to me.
SPEAKER_02Um, I say hero. They overcame adversity, they were very persistent, they're extremely talented. You don't make an impact like that. Um, like you said, when you hear uh rush, you just know it's not and there's you know when you put your stamp on something like that sound and people can recognize it, it's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_01And they're just so normal. I like the normal guys treated it like kind of like a nine to five job, but not. But it's like this is our job, this is what we do, and we'll we will do the best job at it, and that's what we're gonna do for 50 whatever years.
SPEAKER_02And when I was trying to dig up crap on them, I couldn't find any.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no.
SPEAKER_02They were breaking up hotel rooms and no, they're not. Girls, girls, girls in it.
SPEAKER_01No, they're all married with kids, and and it's it's yeah, that's not the rock star image, but maybe that's what it should be exactly.
SPEAKER_02So um they are worth quite a bit. I tried to find exact net worth. That's my thing now. Every time I'm watching a show. Oh, is that you? I'm looking up their net worth because that's what's important. No, but they're I don't know, it just said they're worth tens and tens of millions of dollars.
SPEAKER_01Oh, they got some almost star stuff. That's another thing, too. So they have some money to burn. And I watched this interview a few years ago now with uh Getty Lee. I think it was Dan Randher was interviewing him. Good old Dan. Dan, he's still alive? Yeah, he's still alive. He was doing an interview. I don't know how he's doing now, but this was a few years ago, say maybe like four or five years ago. And there's Getty, oh, here's my house. And it was a nice house, don't get me wrong. But it was no fucking P. Diddy mansion. Right, right. You know, on you know, tens of thousands of square feet, you know, had a beautiful garden.
SPEAKER_02But he need that anyway.
SPEAKER_01He didn't, yeah. He didn't.
SPEAKER_02I respect that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I do too.
SPEAKER_02How big is your house again? 20,000 square feet?
SPEAKER_01No P. Diddy house.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I like ripping on you. Sorry.
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah, you do.
SPEAKER_02I apologize.
SPEAKER_01I'm sorry, that can take it.
SPEAKER_02There were some dark undertones in our last podcast. Was it? Yeah, you were on turkey? You just in general.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_02People emailed me and said it was the most depressing podcast episode.
SPEAKER_01I guess it was Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_02Um I got nothing else.
SPEAKER_01Um I don't even have a fast five. So we said heroes. So now we got two things we need to take care of. Fast five, yes. But we also need to mention that we're still looking out for looking for an alternative to the phrase shout-out. Oh, yeah, that's true. Because we don't like that. Ballyhoo? I'd like to give a ballyhoo. I like bally who. I like bally who too. I might just use that as a different word. Ballyhoo. Another one was trumpet. I'd like to give a trumpet out. I don't like the word trump. No. I can't even say in cards anymore. I mean, see, I didn't even oh no, you took that away from me too. Okay, how about this one? Puff.
SPEAKER_02No, puff daddy pee diddy.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02You're killing me.
SPEAKER_01That was written down before I came up with him. Maybe I saw it and said political. And then Julie, who I originally shouted out and needed an alternative to, hey Julie, she uh she said that she checked AI and AI had was not good. This is what they suggested. Credit. Not giving a credit. I'll give you credit out. Sounds like I'm gonna give you some money back, too. Bang out, a banger. The other thing was acknowledgement that no. How about pound it out? How about no? That sounds like you're poetic. The other thing AI was give recognition. I'm going to give recognition. It's not the same as a shout-out.
SPEAKER_02So they shorten words.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna nize them. I'm gonna wreck 'em. No, that's not good. Oh, see, we're getting closer, I think. Okay. What were the other ones? Credit. You can't shorten that. Cred, no.
SPEAKER_01Cred, no. Give some credit. Bally out.
SPEAKER_02Bally out.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_02Ballyhoo, I don't know. Ballyhoop, but Ballyhoo is like hoop.
SPEAKER_01I like Ballyhoo.
SPEAKER_02I know, but I want to give a Ballyhoo out.
SPEAKER_01But I can't say I can't say it without some stupid un accent? Yeah, accent that doesn't really exist. So if you're listening, anybody? Anybody?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Email the alternatives to what's that? Email?
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_01Hero or diet. 2023.
SPEAKER_022023 at gmail.com. I actually made a page for us on Facebook and no one's following it. I even placed an ad for it.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_02Two people. Checked out the page. No downloads as far as I know.
SPEAKER_01So we're gonna do something. We'll have to work on it. That's our fault. If you're listening, it's not your fault. You could tell a friend though. That'd be nice.
SPEAKER_02But if nobody is listening, nobody has a friend. Um all right.
SPEAKER_01Here's a f here's some fast fives. I'll just give you mine. You ready? Water parks.
SPEAKER_02Dick.
SPEAKER_01I agree. How about uh seagulls?
SPEAKER_02Hero.
SPEAKER_01I think we covered seagulls, actually.
SPEAKER_02I know, but I think I said they were heroes last time.
SPEAKER_01And I think I said there were dicks. So water parks are we agree, are a big D. Do you get a lot of them?
SPEAKER_02Uh not water parks. Seagulls at your place?
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah. From time to time. Yesterday we watched a hawk come down, swoop down on the beach and grabbed a mouse. Yes. You can have all the mice in my yard, because then they'll try to come in my house.
SPEAKER_02I have a question. Yes. What do you do when a pigeon, a big one, hits your window, right? Mm-hmm. Poof. I mean Did it die? Where'd it go? It disappeared.
SPEAKER_01No, they just laid it on the back. That happens all the time in our house. So sometimes I die. But sometimes they just hit it and they get like you know what? I think they see little birds twirling around their heads. And then they kind of pass out and they then they're like, get up and they're like, alright, I'm fine.
SPEAKER_02Well, I thought maybe it hit it so hard it like went through a different dimension. The porthole. And I do have that. What is that called? Next to my house.
SPEAKER_01The funeral?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That got in there. I was there.
SPEAKER_02What? I was there too. Wait, last week.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It was the day after uh Thanksgiving. Why did you stop in? I don't know, because I was going to a funeral. So? I gotta pop over here. Come over here, so I'm in the neighborhood.
SPEAKER_03Alright, okay.
SPEAKER_01Number three. How about this guy, Willem Defoe? I agree. Um, how about this guy? Bob Ross. I agree. Okay, we got one more. Speaking of funerals. Open casket. I agree, but that was six.
SPEAKER_02One, two, three, but we'll count one as mine.
SPEAKER_01No, that was five. Okay. Oh, wait, I got one more, and it's really a good one. Hero or dick. This guy. Andy Dick. That was a trick question, too.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna say he's a dick.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I don't know lately.
SPEAKER_02I don't know either.
SPEAKER_01It's kind of until his last name is Dick. But he's a dick, right?
SPEAKER_02He is a dick.
SPEAKER_01He has a dick. That was a trick question.
SPEAKER_02What else we got? Nothing?
SPEAKER_01That's it. We're gonna say goodbye.
SPEAKER_02Oh, you you forgot.
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_02You know.
SPEAKER_01About Jason?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I didn't forget about him. I was supposed to mention him in the 80s when um when uh Rush was doing synthesizers. That was about the time that uh Jason Bateman was on Little House on the Prairie. Oh yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Little House on the Prairie.
SPEAKER_01We just watched uh Jason Bateman and another famous Canadian, not that Jason's Canadian, but Rush is Canadian. So we can work it in that way. Ryan Reynolds.
SPEAKER_02The changeup.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_02The piss in the fountain.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's kind of funny. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Dumb funny.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Dumb funny. Dude. You don't have to think about it funny. I like it. I tell you.
SPEAKER_02Well, Ryan Reynolds is funny. But he's kind of the same fucking guy and everything.
SPEAKER_01He is. But if you like him, that's okay. Did you ever see him? But sometimes Jason's the same guy. Not always, though. Sometimes he's kind of dark side.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like in that Ozarks. Yeah. Or Ozark. That's my favorite show of all time, and I can't remember the name.
SPEAKER_01Have you watched it yet? I have watched some of it. I need to revisit it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he's never gonna come on unless you watch that.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I'll watch it.
SPEAKER_02Do you realize how many people go on that podcast that are in film and whatever? And they talk about how great of a director he is for that show. Really? Yeah. Like we're talking like Spielberg, people like that. They're like, Wow, that's an alcoholist. And he that guy can't take a compliment.
SPEAKER_01Oh, he can't. No.
SPEAKER_02He's kind of like you. You and Jason are a lot alike.
SPEAKER_01We are. Call me.
SPEAKER_02Okay, everybody. Okay. Thanks. See you next time.
SPEAKER_01Bye bye.
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