Hero or Dick
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~ Kate & KJ
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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick - Season 2, Ep 1 - The New Year Holiday!
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Welcome to Hero or Dick - Season 2, Ep 1 - The New Year!
Our latest episode takes a stroll into the new year. We forgo the pressure of lofty resolutions and instead focus on setting achievable knitting goals. It's all about celebrating the quirky moments in life and finding joy in the attainable—join us for a refreshing take on starting the year right.
Around the world, New Year's traditions are as varied as they are intriguing. This episode navigates through these fascinating customs, from devouring grapes in Spain to the unexpected twist of mustard-filled donuts in Germany. Our conversation also flutters to the utility of backyard chickens—far more than just a source of eggs, these feathered friends can play a surprising role in pest control. And as we touch upon the vibrant colors of New Year's underwear in Latin cultures, we also open up about the January blues and the contrast between holiday relaxation and the challenges it can bring.
Thanks for joining us!
~ Kate and KJ
New Year's Resolutions and Knitting Goals
Speaker 1Hello , welcome to Heroic Dick .
Speaker 2Number 18 .
Speaker 1I did a little test run about 10 seconds and it sounded like I was screaming at everybody .
Speaker 2Yelling at everyone . I'm an angry person . No , you're not .
Speaker 1Deep down , I think . I think everyone is how you been sleeping lately .
Speaker 2Not well .
Speaker 1Me either Like last night .
Speaker 2Is it a year , or is it ? I don't know why .
Speaker 1It's been really bad . I wake up and I don't even know why I'm up . Your brain starts going everywhere . Then you can't go back to sleep 12 , 47 to 4 , something this morning I was just up .
Speaker 2And then you're going to sleep . You're not sleeping . You're like dozing , but not .
Speaker 1You've got that benefit of , once you do fall asleep , you can stay in bed right , being retired and all .
Speaker 2Oh , yeah , yeah , I can sleep . I sleep till 8 every day .
Speaker 1At least yeah .
Speaker 2And you know why .
Speaker 1You deserved it , though you were tired .
Speaker 2I didn't think that would happen . I was getting up at 6am and start doing shit .
Speaker 1And now I'm like meh , you guys have some pretty gnarly parties late at night . Yeah we do . Speaking of , how was your New Year's ?
Speaker 2Very uneventful and party like . In fact , we were watching a movie . We were watching Spinal Tap .
Speaker 1Oh , I've been hearing a lot of Spinal Tap . That's so weird .
Speaker 2Oh , it's a funny movie .
Speaker 1Never seen it .
Speaker 2Oh , really Is it British . No , but there's British people in there .
Speaker 1I don't like them . Why ? I'm just kidding the accent , I don't know . Oh my gosh .
Speaker 2I have a hard time watching it . Okay , it's a Rob Reiner movie .
Speaker 1Sometimes I can't understand what they're saying . Oh yeah , you can , you can .
Speaker 2On this one . So , anyway , we were watching Spinal Tap , which was on until like 12.30 , and it got done , and I looked and I'm like , oh , they say they got a couple texts here . Happy New Year , oh shit we missed it .
Speaker 1Oops , oops . What's the TV viewing like at your home , do you ? Are you both on the same wavelength as far as hearing goes ? Do you need captioning at all .
Speaker 2Sometimes the older I get , the more I put captions on , just because I feel like I'm missing stuff .
Speaker 1I always have them on .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1I think it bothers those other people in my house .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , because they probably catching it and you weren't .
Speaker 1I left the room last night . We put on an episode of the middle , just the waste time . Yeah , very good show . And yeah , everyone's from all we go back to , it's a go to .
Speaker 2Lately our go to has been my name is Earl . Oh shit , yeah , that's a good one . Yeah , it's funny , still funny .
Speaker 1Yeah , so I walked out of the room to go get a snack or something and I came back and my daughter changed the captioning so that the letters were as big as the screen so I could see it in here . Oh , they thought it was a riot .
Speaker 2Oh , it is a riot . That's funny . I thought you were going to say she put it like on Spanish or something .
Speaker 1No , no , you know what she's doing right now .
Speaker 2What .
Speaker 1Shoveling .
Speaker 2Oh , is she at school ? No , no school today . Oh , that's right , snowy .
Speaker 1So I'm pretty happy about that .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , shovel away . I am happy because I went by the centennial where there's two long sideways sidewalks to shovel , plus the intersection , and somebody had done first street for me .
Speaker 1Oh , good yeah , are you going to go shovel ?
Speaker 2I think I know who does it , but I'm not positive . Why are you ? Going to shovel , and then I'm going to shovel after I'm done here .
Speaker 1Are you really ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I am Just wait . Why is it going to melt ?
Speaker 1Eventually Well in the spring . You'll be fine .
Speaker 2You know , I never realized how many people walk down there , though , until they don't shovel , and then there's like bike tracks and walk , so I'll go and shovel it .
Speaker 1I'm surprised how many people do bike in the winter . Yeah , maybe they can't arrive .
Speaker 2Maybe , or maybe they , I don't know , but there's a lot of back tire bikers , all right . So anyway , back to it's 2024 now , and so this episode is just about the new year stuff . Not quite resolutions . I mean , you have to talk about resolutions because it's new year , what's yours . I don't really make them .
Speaker 1Can't break them , then that's true .
Speaker 2That's true . I mean , you know it's the new year , you try to retool , I give myself a couple goals , but that's it .
Speaker 1Billionaire , be a billionaire .
Speaker 2I'm not so concerned about money , as long as I have enough money to live on and I'm not broke .
Speaker 1Are you still living in your car ? I'm just kidding , it's a joke .
Speaker 2I got my car back . So yay , yeah , I am living in . I could live in my car . I have snacks ? What In my car ?
Speaker 1You have snacks in your car , yeah , I do ? What do you roll around with in there ?
Speaker 2Usually mini granola bars , but sometimes I found a bag of peanut M&Ms . Oh , those are great and those never go bad . I love M&Ms .
Speaker 1I hate them Anyway so what about ?
Speaker 2you ? Got any resolutions ?
Speaker 1No , Well , I mean just stay on the path of making better choices in general . Okay , that's always good , I've been working on the writing a lot , but I was doing that prior to the new year , but every day I'm working on that novel . Man , I'm going to get that done this year . Oh , that's it . I think people will read it , See .
Speaker 2I will totally read it . That's not so much a resolution as a goal , and maybe that's really what resolutions are . I guess they kind of are , but so many people make you know I'm going to lose weight .
Speaker 1I'm going to quit smoking . I'm going to quit drinking .
Speaker 2I'm going to exercise , improve finances .
Speaker 1I'm not going to kick the dog anymore .
Speaker 2Take care of my mental health . And then you know , a week later they're like oh , I smoked , oh I didn't exercise for a week , you know why People are weak . Oh well , I have no willpower .
Speaker 1I know Me neither , I ate the peanut oven .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't yeah . I did make a . It's not a resolution , it's a knitting goal , a knitting goal .
Speaker 1Did you say knitting ?
Speaker 2I did .
Speaker 1You liked the knitting , so I do like the knitting . Wait , do you cross stitch ? I've actually done that before . You might have , but I don't I did . Do you kind of look down on cross stitches ? No , I don't .
Speaker 2I , I any craft people want to do good for you , you know , and to me it's you're cross stitching , so you go one way . You , I think you got to go back , so to me it's like double the work . But I , I mean good for you .
Speaker 1You make some good hats .
Speaker 2You make good hats Well okay , my last year my knitting goal was 100 hats , that's a lot of hats 100 hats in a year . And guess what I did it .
Speaker 1Did you ?
Speaker 2really I did .
Speaker 1I had every other day . Every a third day every three and a half days .
Speaker 2Every , every about every week , it's two hats .
Speaker 1Do you ever just sit down in the weekend and you're like I'm going to make 10 hats ?
Speaker 2Well , no , but I can bang out a hat in a day . What kind of they in mind ? You , not all were beautiful . You know intricate hats , although somewhere . But some I did , just , it was like you gave one to David Sederis . I did yes .
Speaker 1You think he's wearing it today ?
Speaker 2Probably . Yeah , I guess . But he I made him . That's the second hand I gave him . And the first hand I gave him he said he wears .
Speaker 1You should have made him a kilt or skirt .
Speaker 2Remember he had his rockiness . What is ?
Speaker 1it ? What is it A ? Skirt oh shirts and a skirt Gouchos Gouchos . Yeah , let's call him Gouchos . Get that in your foot . No , that's goat , that's a cow , gouchos , mark .
Speaker 2So that was a . That was a good . That was last year's knitting goal , so this year's knitting goal is to knit out of my stash because I have a lot of it Can you give that away .
Speaker 1Most of it you don't sell no no , no , no , I never do crap .
Speaker 2No , no , I have some hats . Anybody needs some email me .
Speaker 1Yeah at hero , or dick Two , zero , two , three .
Speaker 2Well , that's our establishment . We step with a color gmail founded . Yeah , we're probably a gmailcom .
Speaker 1This year , I think I'll try to get us a real email .
Speaker 2That's a real email .
Speaker 1It is .
Speaker 2I'm not disliking that you're gonna see although nobody's email man , oh so yeah , we haven't got any . I was so excited .
Speaker 1The other night I got a prompt .
Speaker 2I got a prompt on my phone Hero or dick has an email and I went in there I was .
Speaker 1We have a Facebook page too . Oh , dude yeah .
Speaker 2I don't do Facebook .
Speaker 1Well you should . Why , I don't know . You know in the podcast is also on Amazon Google everywhere . There's other ones . I heart radio . Is it oh good . I mean that doesn't mean people are listening to it . At least we're out there , we're everywhere , but nobody's listening . One more thing about that the knitting . Okay different , it's yarn right , yes . Do you use different types of yarn ? Yes . Different materials yes , yeah , some wool , some polyester . You ever use hemp I have . Is that good ? Is it easy , it's very durable , it's like rope , ropes made of hemp right .
Speaker 1What's it like for ? Is it like wool , like no , it's not itchy scratchy it's .
Speaker 2Usually hemp is smoother , but it doesn't necessarily mittens . I have my mittens . Yeah , here's the thing about making mittens or socks . It's goes back to the cross stitch thing . You get one mitten done and you know you're like oh , I gotta make another one and you gotta match that son of a gun .
Speaker 1Well , you don't have to .
Speaker 2You don't have to anymore , it's like it's okay not to match Gotcha . I'd make mittens over socks . I think I don't make these .
Speaker 1Well , you make fine hats . No , I don't care what they say .
Speaker 2So that's not really so much a resolution as a goal . The other biggie for resolution spend more time with family and friends . I think I'm doing that already . I got enough time of family and friends .
Speaker 1You're always booked .
Speaker 2I'm not always , but enough enough , I Did look up in in history Babylonians , which I like that word Babylonians , they're from babble . Babylon , Babylon , so they're Babylonians . And when you look at it printing its baby Lonions , so their resolution they , they were like the first to make resolutions , and they made resolutions , promises to their gods .
Speaker 1That's probably a good idea .
Speaker 2Yeah , I thought their resolution was weird , though they were gonna Return borrowed things . So apparently that was the thing . You know neighbors borrowing your lawnmower or your I don't know chalice go Go .
Speaker 1Borrowed stuff to fulfill that goal .
Speaker 2Well , that was one of the resolutions to return borrowed things that would encourage payment people to borrow more .
Speaker 1I'm making the gods happy as the baby lonians the baby lonians , it used to be March 1st .
Speaker 2New Year's .
Speaker 1Yeah , oh , the Romans and then old Caesar came in and he changed it to the hero or a dick .
Speaker 2Look into that . He's probably a dick , probably most famous leaders old-timey Said it work . Yeah , you know people in the past . They're really decks , even if they come out as heroes . As a general , rule yeah , we should throw but that's how we know their name is because you know , ivan the terrible wasn't even a nice guy who returned his borrowed things .
Speaker 1No . No he wasn't giving the goat back .
Speaker 2No , no . He kept the goat . He slashed its throat drank the blood .
Speaker 1That was probably . Some of the
New Year's Superstitions and Traditions
Speaker 1Folks did that . I bet , yeah , things like that , yeah superstitions , so some other countries have superstitions .
Speaker 2In Spain For a new year is tradition to eat 12 grapes is good luck . 12 , maybe one for each month , I'm not sure why 12 .
Speaker 1One for each month .
Speaker 2Maybe , maybe .
Speaker 1Yeah , all kinds of superstitions .
Speaker 2In Russia they give 12 seconds of silence before midnight 12 again one for each month , for each month . So , I guess that would be . Maybe that's the common thing . Okay , and then the midnight kiss . If you kiss someone you love at midnight , then your sentiments will continue for the next 12 months .
Speaker 1You're what will sentiments . What's that me ? How you're sentimental about somebody if you've not how ?
Speaker 2you smell somebody .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's sentiments .
Speaker 2That's sent what about centered hats . That could be a thing .
Speaker 1That'd be nice walk around with a hat that smells like bacon .
Speaker 2You know , Wow , bacon really Something like that . But then dogs would follow you .
Speaker 1Yeah , they would . Some cultures . There's this thing called first footing , or the first person that enters the house after midnight will bring good or bad luck for the year , depending on what the person looks like .
Speaker 2Oh , or who it is , but that's all subjective it is , but it's pretty cool , but that's interesting . Some people okay noisemakers , steer away those evil spirits .
Speaker 1Oh , is that why they do the fireworks and stuff too ?
Speaker 2probably Supposedly . I don't like the fireworks thing . I'm not into fireworks .
Speaker 1Fourth of July . Okay , we'll let you have it .
Speaker 2Well , it'd be safer .
Speaker 1In the winter , in the winter , but it's not winter everywhere .
Speaker 2No , it's not .
Speaker 1But yeah , I know what you're saying .
Speaker 2No . And then lucky foods . They have lucky foods .
Speaker 1What are they ?
Speaker 2Well , let's see .
Speaker 1Chinese food .
Speaker 2In the South they eat black eyed peas . How about black eyed peas ? I think they're a hero . I like them . I don't know , I don't want to eat them every day , but if you eat them on New Year's Eve you will eat well for the rest of the year . Supposedly Some other places like round things round , desserts round , brings them luck , cakes , donuts , cookies .
Speaker 1I get that circle of life kind of stuff .
Speaker 2Yeah , full circle , full circle of luck . And how about pork Pigs ?
Speaker 1Bacon .
Speaker 2Yeah , Okay . Pigs girthy size brings prosperity and because they root forward , that's a lot of symbolism in a pig . I love symbolism . Well , that's a lot for a pig . One with that curly tail , not like those chickens there , I think the pigs are rooting forward . Those chickens are just packing everywhere .
Speaker 1I saw . I'm sorry , this is what I do . I get off track , but you said chicken and I saw . You know that . What do they call that ? Those things reels or something Reels . It's on Instagram or TikTok .
Speaker 2I don't know . Yeah , yeah , I read it . Oh reels , Okay , yeah .
Speaker 1So there's this person who had a big spider on the wall . They also had a chicken , so they just lift the chicken up and the chicken eats the spiders in their house .
Speaker 2Yeah , chickens like bugs . That's what they eat . Is that why they taste delicious ?
Speaker 1The chickens are the bugs .
Speaker 2The well I've never you've eaten bugs ? I've eaten bugs , um , but the chickens is what I was talking about .
Speaker 1Chicken is pretty damn good .
Speaker 2I love chicken . You ever have fried chicken ?
Speaker 1Let me like a pet chicken .
Speaker 2No , I haven't . I have my good friend Lori Faber .
Speaker 1Hey Faber , she has chickens , ballyhoo to Faber .
Speaker 2Oh , we got a crazy chicken lady in my world Crazy chicken lady . Her chickens live large . They live better than a lot of people that I know . They have this awesome chicken . I wouldn't even call it a coop , I would call it a deluxe clubhouse . Oh nice and they are really living the chicken life . They don't eat them , they're , they're pets .
Speaker 1Does she collect the insects for them ?
Speaker 2No , they just find them . Sometimes raccoons have found them too . They had a raccoon incident .
Speaker 1Uh-oh .
Speaker 2And I think it ate baddie , the raccoon ate baddie .
Speaker 1I'm not sure , bady is a chicken , I hope .
Speaker 2Bady was a chicken she was , I didn't know . Raccoons ate chickens , oh yeah , really yeah , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1Those cute little fuzzy things . They're evil . You probably get a lot of them out there , eh .
Speaker 2Uh , not really .
Speaker 1Possips .
Speaker 2No , I see a few possums . We see a lot of skunks lately .
Speaker 1You know what it is , though You're not garbage people .
Speaker 2Thank you .
Speaker 1So you have a nice yard , but you know what I mean .
Speaker 2If you do have . There's some savory residences that might add some critters . We have a mulch pile that sometimes Body parts . Uh , no , not yet .
Speaker 1Um , but sometimes the Whatever they are .
Speaker 2Sometimes the possums and raccoons come to the mulch pile , but that's out by the road , so that's why . But anyway , hey , I got one Chickens .
Speaker 1Can I interrupt again ? Yeah , colored underwear . Did you know that was a thing in Latin countries ? What about it ?
Speaker 2I don't know .
Speaker 1I mean , you know it's not the opposite colors on New Year's Eve and you'll attract different luck in the upcoming year .
Speaker 2So I'm not sure what's called . How do you call people out on ?
Speaker 1that you know , billy . Well , I guess Deep down . Well , some people probably find out after that New Year's Eve , kiss New Year's . I don't know . Wonder what black underwear signifier .
Speaker 2That's what I usually have on .
Speaker 1A little lacy , but Apparently Too much . Too much . Yellow attracts wealth and white is for peace and happiness .
Speaker 2See , I don't think I would ever own a pair of yellow underwear .
Speaker 1I think some people's underwear get yellow . It just seems wrong yeah .
Speaker 2Going back to the foods , in Greece , onions increase your fertility , so you hang them on the door on New Year's Day or New Year's Eve if you want fertility for the year .
Speaker 1That's kind of a what would you call it an oxymoron .
Speaker 2Yeah , because onions Keep it , you know on onion breath when you're trying to be fertile . Many people do . I love onions , so I think onions are a hero . I would totally do that .
Speaker 1Yeah , onions are a hero
Chickens, Mustard, and January Blues
Speaker 1. We should do it . I think chickens are heroes .
Speaker 2Chickens are definitely heroes .
Speaker 1Spiders .
Speaker 2You're so relatively looking , they're really .
Speaker 1They are , aren't they ? Yeah , I don't think they're quite evolved ?
Speaker 2No , they didn't .
Speaker 1But they shouldn't , because they have a specific job to do , and that's eat bugs .
Speaker 2And lay eggs .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah , oh , one more food thing . In Germany they like to do a donut filled with jam or cream , and those are lucky . But here's what they do , because they're Germans no offense , Germany people , no One , or this is really sneaky of them . So they fill with jam or cream , and then one or two they fill with mustard .
Speaker 1Okay .
Speaker 2And whoever gets the mustard has an unlucky year . Unless they're like donuts with mustard in them , I guess I like donuts and I like mustard , but not I love mustard .
Speaker 1Mustard's a hero . You can get a lot of different kinds of mustard , but I don't understand that . That seems like it would be the opposite . It would be the person that gets the mustard would have good luck , because all those other people are going to have good luck and one person has bad luck .
Speaker 2I'm just saying .
Speaker 1No , I get it .
Speaker 2Maybe because you're not expecting it , but they would be , because they know one of them's going to have the mustard in it . Okay , so that's all lucky foods here , or dicks . We think we covered the foods , we covered the resolutions . What else do we have ?
Speaker 1The blues .
Speaker 2The New Year's blues Yep .
Speaker 1January blues .
Speaker 2Oh really .
Speaker 1I don't know , maybe I do . I feel kind of sad right now .
Speaker 2To me , january is a selfish month , let's say . And I have because you get ready for this holiday , holiday , holidays . You got Thanksgiving . You know you're pandering to the in-laws and outlaws and you're having dinner and food you don't want and then comes Christmas . You got to buy all this stuff . Half the people don't like it , half the people do , and you know you're serving others . Let's say , and some people love that and I , honestly , I badmouth it , but I love buying gifts , I do love doing that , yeah , hanging out with folks .
Speaker 2And , yeah , I'm having the family over , but you're doing it for other people . So January comes and it's like , okay , I don't have to knit anything for anybody , I don't have to buy a gift for anybody this month . I can just do what I want and I have two friends in the legal women voters . Hello girls , they call it . They call January pajama month .
Speaker 1Oh .
Speaker 2Because they're like we travel , we go to the kids , we do this , we do that , and then January comes . It's pajama month . Recovering the pizzas . We read , we watch movies , we do what ?
Speaker 1we want . They eat mustard filled donuts .
Speaker 2They eat mustard filled donuts . I don't know if they do that .
Speaker 1No , I think January is tough for some people . I can see . Yeah , it's relaxation , but I think it's tough because you're failing at your New Year's resolutions .
Speaker 2You are , and if you're living here .
Speaker 1I mean , look at outside right now .
Speaker 2Oh , look at that Some people like the snow , though it's beautiful , it's sunny , it's pretty . And it was so pretty driving in .
Speaker 1But now I got to go shoveling that stuff , and I guess the days aren't getting back longer .
Speaker 2They are . They're getting longer . But I understand it too , you go through the holidays and not everybody likes the holidays . I totally understand that too . And if you especially , you got to hear and watch everybody else celebrate , what if you don't have a family ? What if you're alone ? Or what if you don't like your family ? Or what if your family ? You know .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2So I understand that . January can be a blues time .
Speaker 1I think I really enjoyed our holidays this year , and I'll tell you why . Why this year ? Because they were more low key , but then but it was spread out longer . So , like my parents , our parents , my in-laws , and then we had like a work thing with my wife's coworkers and then just recently we finally had a dinner with my brother-in-law and his wife . I was like that's nice , like lasted , it was nice and easy .
Speaker 2And you didn't have to cram it all in one dinner and that you don't get to really visit or talk to anybody .
Speaker 1Yeah , Less pressure and you enjoy it more .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Like I said , each one had its own significance and importance and it was fun , so hopefully that continues .
Speaker 2I think we're lucky that we don't have to travel either , because that takes the stress out of it right there . When I didn't live here , it was like travel , travel , travel , travel to get here . Yeah , that was stressful .
Speaker 1Speaking of travel and years resolutions goals , I'm cutting your list there probably . What do you got planned for travel this year ?
Speaker 2I can't decide . I can't decide where to go for spring break . Any suggestions ? People email me at here , or dick 2023 at gmailcom .
Speaker 1When you said 23, . We're at 23 minutes .
Speaker 2Oh , that's where I should go . 23rd country of the world ? I don't know .
Speaker 1What is it ?
Speaker 2I don't know , I thought you would know that You're like our research guru . No , I don't know .
Speaker 1We should hire one of them people .
Speaker 2They should be sitting here looking up stuff . That's right . Well , next year maybe travel ? No , I can't decide where to go . Are you guys going anywhere ? I don't know we're and it's like if we're going on a spring break or a spring trip , it's kind of coming up .
Speaker 1Yeah , I don't like spring break trips . I like trips , but I don't . Everyone else is traveling . I know you can go to different places Right , but it's like no matter where you go and spring break .
Speaker 2There's people there
Travel Plans and Top 10 Lists
Speaker 2. When we were last year , we were in England for a spring break .
Speaker 1You were gone for like a month .
Speaker 2I was gone for three weeks , so yeah , and one of those weeks was spring break there and we did really well until that . I think it was the last week we were there was their country spring break and there are so many people . I think their schools maybe coordinated or they were close , anyway . Anyway , one week we were there . Sometimes we would try to go to do stuff . I was like no way no way . But you know I'm not going places where you know I'm not going to a water park .
Speaker 1Sure . Ever , you know , like I kind of want to go to , I like going to those tropical joints , you know , to just do an all inclusive .
Speaker 2I was looking at Jamaica this morning .
Speaker 1That's where we were supposed to go before COVID never to do it and I get that for my daughter and that's called Jamaica . And then part of me is like you know , I want to go , just get a freaking house and rent it in some city like Denver or something , I don't even care , it doesn't have to be tropical , just anywhere .
Speaker 2Just anywhere different explorer city . Yeah , that's a good idea to you .
Speaker 1But when you start calculating that is cheaper to do an all inclusive in a different country . So I don't know .
Speaker 2I agree that the travel plans and I have to I'm the planner , you are , I am , which I sometimes like , but sometimes it's it's not fun and oh , you mean you're the one responsible for planning , or you like to plan when ? A little bit of both . Okay , yeah , so , and so I was looking . You know , lately we've done the VBROs and we rented a house and that worked out well . But I'm kind of like maybe we just need to go to a hotel , remember those ?
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah so yeah , you know what ? Because you can get a decent hotel . Yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Like some downtown area .
Speaker 2And what do I need an apartment for ? I mean , we didn't we cooked one night out of those three weeks and you know what we could have got takeout that night ? And you know what ?
Speaker 1There was a great pizza place right by that's a good point , there being the thing you know but it was .
Speaker 2It was good for us because we had so many people . Oh , that's if I would , if we would have all went set , if we would have all had a separate hotel room , it would have cost probably more than per night at VB arrow , and it was really nice to have the house in a neighborhood where we had a lot of things that we wanted to do so for in I don't . I don't remember any hotels near us either . I'm sure there were somewhere , but you know , it was nice to have that you can do that to your house .
Speaker 2We could , we have thought about it , but I don't think I want people in my house .
Speaker 1I don't know what they're doing in there . I barely want to walk around .
Speaker 2the yellow underwear yeah , they would be one thing , eating their black eyed peas .
Speaker 1Bring their chickens .
Speaker 2You have a comfort chicken as a pet .
Speaker 1Oh God , though , what are those called when you take your fucking pet everywhere ?
Speaker 2and your comfort , pet your comfort therapy , animals or whatever . I don't know . Let's not talk about that right now . Well , one more thing that I want to talk about for New Year's is one thing that I like that happens is the top 10 lists . So you get the top 10 books , you get the top 10 movies . I looked up the top 10 albums . I did not know one person .
Speaker 1How many of them had the name little in it ?
Speaker 2I don't know my favorite was the window rat boys . I haven't looked them up , I wanted to . I have not . Sounds pretty cool , I think so . Top 10 lists . Top 10 podcasts we did not make it Were we like 11 or 12 ?
Speaker 1We're probably 1200,000 . Yeah , 12,000 .
Speaker 2We're at the bottom of the list there .
Speaker 1You know well , you'll probably work it in Never mind .
Speaker 2Yeah . So , and then the podcasts I thought were interesting . So there was one like ours where we just talked , and then there's like , if books could kill that one's kind of interesting and it's all . They review books , obviously .
Speaker 1Okay .
Speaker 2But then a lot of them are serial ones , not like Cheerios cereal , but like a cereal . So they follow .
Speaker 1You know a murder or a mystery , or something what a serial podcast is a good idea . How about ?
Speaker 2serials . Oh , about serials . Okay , well , we can do top 10 serials . Yeah , we'll do that next time . I love them .
Speaker 1Oh , we can talk about that here . Keep going .
Speaker 2I bought the cereal I bought at Christmas time . I like how they Christmas everything , yeah , by adding sugar , gingerbread , cinnamon , toast , crunch cereal . Oh yeah , delicious , yeah Was it , yeah , and I specifically bought marshmallows to make like the rice crispy treats with them . I ate it all .
Speaker 1Hey , that's what happened to me last night . I bet you , right before bed I had two giant bowls of cinnamon toast crunch . That's what you that's what ? Oh , that's totally why you didn't sleep . No , no , I don't need .
Speaker 2I had a few pretzels at about 10 twisties or straights or what these were like the snaps they're called . They look like a little graph , they're like a square with are the airy . Yeah , okay , yeah .
Speaker 1They snap everything now , don't they ? They do , they just call it snap .
Speaker 2It's just a walking pretzel man it's snaps Less pretzel For probably more money .
Speaker 1Yeah , but they're tasty .
Speaker 2I do like the twist . Do you like the buttery stuff ? Yeah , of course . Yeah , not sour though .
Speaker 1You don't like sour too ? Fucking crunchy those big ones . They're in mustard . You could call back . It's a good .
Speaker 2I like that All right . The other top 10 was from the 20 . The beginning of the year was predictions , and here were some of the worst predictions that people had for 2023 . What do you think it is ? You take it , yes .
Speaker 1Well , there's probably the end of the world .
Speaker 2I think they always do that he's always thinking the world's going to end Someday . Somebody's going to be correct , so why not predict it , I guess .
Speaker 1Another COVID probably .
Speaker 2The big one that I the number one was where the recession is coming . We're going to have such a bad recession this year that didn't happen . No , the other things were these rebranded Facebook and Twitter . It's now meta and Twitter's X that they're going to do wonderfully and everything .
Speaker 1And they both tanked .
Speaker 2Not kind of they did . And the other thing I thought was interesting was the commercial real estate market they keep seeing is going to crash because people work from home and they're not buying commercial real estate . I mean , we know that housing is still up there , but commercial real estate didn't crash either . No , no , even though more people work remotely , they still want to have the base .
Speaker 1People are just buying different types of commercial .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , so that's what I got .
Speaker 1It's about time for you to buy some more real estate .
Speaker 2I haven't bought any this year yet Last year .
Speaker 1Would you buy last year's stuff ?
Speaker 2I didn't buy anything last year .
Speaker 1Let's buy something .
Speaker 2All right .
Speaker 1I think I'm going to buy something here shortly .
Speaker 2Okay , what are you going to buy ?
Speaker 1I think it's gonna just be a rental investment property house and rent it out .
Speaker 2Okay , you got your IAM one . Yeah , all right , stay tuned . Yeah , rental is a big thing . Even in little old Alpina you can't find a rental . Nope . So if you want to become , don't be a slumlord , don't just be a lord A what Just a lord ?
Speaker 1Yeah , we'll see .
Speaker 2All right . So because we had so many things with 2020 for resolutions and foods and stuff , I don't have a fast five . Those were my fast five .
Speaker 1I never have one , I know . You know what I was thinking , though . Maybe this year one episode you have the fast five and one episode I have the fast five , instead of doing two .
Speaker 2Okay , we can do that , because you never do it yeah .
Speaker 1So I got to get my and I swear , I swear They'll be good , it's five .
Speaker 2We're five things . You just you can grab five things . Oh , there's room right now .
Speaker 1I'm gonna write it down right now that I have to do a fast five for next time .
Speaker 2Also Jason Bateman . I think we might be done with you . We've called , We've emailed , We've written you letters .
Speaker 1We drove by his house and he's got a nice place . Still nothing .
Speaker 2So this year maybe we'll fixate on Conan O'Brien .
Speaker 1Yeah , no , we have a better chance there . I think he's needier . He has people like us losers on his show you know what I mean Like he does a little segment . That's funny I just watched trying to introduce my kids . My son doesn't care yet , but you know what He'll care in a year , because he usually waits a year . He's like dad . Did you hear this ? And I'm like I told you about that last year .
Speaker 1And then he thinks it says invention oh yeah , Like hot ones show where they eat hot wings oh yeah , now that's the thing , man , we did it at my in-laws for New Year's and stuff and I'm like I was showed you that show two , three years ago and I was trying , but it's an age thing in his buddies and we actually did that at his at . My in-laws had some hot wings , but anyhow , I was trying to introduce him and my daughter to between two ferns .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , was that Galphinakis and it was the .
Speaker 1Conan O'Brien and Andrew Richter were on there . Just watch that . Yesterday it was so funny .
Speaker 2So , conan , conan , give us a why , don't you email us ?
Speaker 1at heroordick2023 at gmailcom .
Speaker 2Mm-hmm . All right , so , willie , we'll see everybody . We won't see anybody actually . No , you will hear us next time , and it won't be as long we won't be .
Speaker 1No , we kind of no holidays and families .
Speaker 2It has been because people made plans for me . What ?
Speaker 1Yeah , don't understand who you are , sons of bitches , I know . Anyway , happy belated New Year to everybody , and we'll talk to you later .
Speaker 2Okay , oh wait . I want to give one more ballet .
Speaker 1Oh
Book Surprise and Holiday Reading Prize
Speaker 1, I love the ballet .
Speaker 2Who's , and this is to the bookstore Betty pages and I did a not an ad . But she's in . Oh , I know , I know , whatever written down across the state right . Yeah , Anyhow , I did this little surprise thing . It's not an advent calendar , but she wrapped up six books and some three like book related things , and you fill out this very brief , very unassuming questionnaire and then she sends you the books and so far I've opened three and there are three that I have not even heard of .
Speaker 1That's cool Let alone read .
Speaker 2So that's really good . And Nicole set it all up and she sent me this wonderful sticker too that said no more white men podcasts . Oh shit Well so . I have to give the belly who to Nicole and I want to say that personalized holiday reading prizes , fabulous idea . I will do it every year till the day I die and I only unwrap three and save in three for what I'm feeling January blues .
Speaker 1June , I know , and then I go . I got a present unwrap . Yeah , good idea . You still have your tree up , don't I do ?
Speaker 2But everything else is down . I just we don't leave it up because of you know , we want to keep celebrating . We're just too lazy to take it down . And it doesn't look bad . It doesn't have ornaments on it or anything , so I guess All right . Okay , so belly who . Thank you All right Bye .
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