Hero or Dick
Welcome to Hero or Dick!
We started this podcast with a blunt question about people: Hero or Dick?
Then we found ourselves asking it about places, traditions, entertainment, and the ordinary stuff we’d never thought to question before. Who gets praised? What gets overlooked? Why are we so sure we know the story?
We pick something that interests us, do our homework, and sit down to talk. We bring facts, opinions, and stories from our own lives, and follow the occasional tangent.
Sometimes we reach a verdict. Sometimes the question gets more interesting.
If that sounds like a conversation you’d want to be part of, join us.
~ Kate & KJ
Drop us a line at hello@heroordick.com
Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick - S2., Ep. 15 - Sesame Street
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
Join Kate & KJ as they explore the timeless magic of Sesame Street! They reflect on its commitment to inclusivity and social issues and fondly recall iconic characters and celebrities that graced the show.
Don't miss this delightfully nostalgic episode of Hero or Dick!
Thanks for listening!
Summer Concert Experiences and Nostalgia
Speaker 1All right , Hello everybody .
Speaker 2Hi everyone .
Speaker 1Welcome to .
Speaker 2Hero or Dick .
Speaker 1Ah , shoot , I just looked and I forgot , but it's the episode after Serial Killers . I know that it's been a while .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's been a while . Hope everyone's having a good summer .
Speaker 1It has been . I don't care if people have a good summer , but I'm just kidding . Oh no , Kate's been traveling the world here , so we couldn't .
Speaker 2I went to Gaylord .
Speaker 1Yeah , that was it , and I haven't eaten venison , so oh , I'm sorry . No , it's pretty good actually .
Speaker 2So it's season two , episode 15 .
Speaker 1That's what it is . I know we chatted before this , but is there anything else we want to talk about ?
Speaker 2Before we start Lighthearted banter . Know we chatted before this , but was there anything else we want to talk about ?
Speaker 1um , you know , light-hearted banter that people keep emailing us about um I got nothing nothing .
Speaker 2I mean . Well , let's see what happened . We've been gone for a month it has been , hasn't it has been a while , but it was a month of july , so nobody people are are busy People are busy .
Speaker 1I mean , I don't think they're waiting for us .
Speaker 2No .
Speaker 1It's okay though .
Speaker 2No , you know , what I will mention right now , because I ran across this when I was going through some old paperwork is this is for Conan O'Brien , when you're listening . So we've loved Conan for a long time . Sure , we meaning myself and my daughter Jenna .
Speaker 1And .
Speaker 2I found a haiku that she wrote for Conan . She was probably in high school when she wrote this . Maybe , early college it says my do haiku . So right there , conan O'Brien , as your red hair grows taller , my love grows stronger . Ah , wow , that's the do haiku .
Speaker 1That's good .
Speaker 2I got that while I kept it . Look , it's in her original handwriting . I see that I wish I would have dated it . I did not . Oh , maybe there's a date on here , nope . No , but it must have been in high school because it says banquet begins in the commons on the other side .
Speaker 1The commons , the commons of high school , oh , you remember the commons , don't you the high school ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I do .
Speaker 1That was kind of weird . You got all the different people hanging out .
Speaker 2Yeah , you got the guys standing on the wall staring Uh-huh .
Speaker 1Uh-huh , I think if guys do that stuff now that they used to do , they'd probably get smacked by girls .
Speaker 2Oh , my gosh , which deservedly so . I hope so .
Speaker 1The shit that used to happen .
Speaker 2Well , we used to . We could smoke at school , yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah , with your teachers .
Speaker 2Well sure if they were out in the smoking pens . But , yeah , there was a smoking pens here . Kids in between classes go have a smoke , relax here . Kids in between classes go have a smoke , relax a little , come back reek them like cigarettes we'll get on with school America . Well , that was the 70s , late 70s , Right ?
Speaker 1Well , I remember when I was yeah , I guess , because I was in Maple Ridge out there in the boonies .
Speaker 2You weren't smoking at Maple Ridge .
Speaker 1I wasn't , but the teachers smoked .
Speaker 2Yeah yeah there's a teacher lounge . You can go and smoke at Smoking in the hospitals .
Speaker 1Isn't that crazy . Your doctor will come see you having a smoke .
Speaker 2Yeah , it just seems like you can't even believe it now . We went to a concert a couple years ago . It was George Thorogood .
Speaker 1It's a great concert .
Speaker 2Is he alive ? He is and he does it . I'm telling you , he does a fabulous show , he's bad to the bone you know all the songs without even trying . So , uh , we went and jenna was with us and she was probably about 20 at the time , maybe a little bit older , because I feel like she was drinking , so she might have been 21 up at the zoo and we went to the concert . We went back down to the um , to the casino .
Speaker 2Everybody had their black t-shirts on yeah , I saw george thoroughgood a lot of mullets oh because yeah , george thoroughgood , and of course we're in a casino , everybody's smoking . So when we came downstairs and walked into that casino , I'm like jenna , this is what it was like in the 80s yeah , yeah this was the 80s , hasn't changed um you know how was your concert ? Which one you went to like 182 yeah , it was good .
Speaker 1Um , you can tell , though , that particular show even brooke commented on it . It's like they're like we're together for the show , you know , it's like oh we need some money , yeah I mean I , I don't know , they just didn't seem travis barker looked like he would much rather be somewhere else and then kardashian one yeah , and then of course , my wife and daughter , everyone talking about how hot he is .
Speaker 2You know he's so gorgeous .
Speaker 1He's ripped well yeah , he's a Kardashian one . Yeah , and then , of course , my wife and daughter , everyone talking about how hot he is . You know he's so gorgeous , he's ripped . Well , yeah , he's a fucking drummer . Yeah , you don't see many fat drummers .
Speaker 2He's a tall skinny drummer . And then With every inch of his body .
Speaker 1The other guy , tom , who's like the guy the alien guys . He got his own alien research society . You didn't know about this , I did not , I think his name's Tom , but anyway he was sick . He was having a hard time coughing , sneezing snot coming out . He was having a hard time singing . He even said so . But I mean it was nice to see Blink-182 . And it was neat to see the range of people there .
Speaker 2Yeah , I bet there was parents with kids . Oh yeah , it was pretty cool the range of people there . Yeah , I bet there was parents with kids .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , it was pretty cool . And the opening who the hell opened ? Hot Milf ? No , hot Milk . Brooke and I had an argument about that .
Speaker 2Were they women .
Speaker 1Yes .
Speaker 2Because then they would be milk .
Speaker 1It was milk .
Speaker 2Okay .
Speaker 1And it was , the lead singer was a female because I couldn't tell from where we were at , and she corrected me . And then there was Another band that was pretty popular Right now and I can't remember the names , but the kids really seemed to enjoy it . And then we went to the Childish Gambino concert .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , that's fun , or was it fun ?
Speaker 1Yeah , it was fun , and what bugs me is my wife and daughter think I'm not having fun because I'm just kind of standing there , you know , relaxed .
Speaker 2I don't jump around .
Speaker 1But I do enjoy it and I thought he was very entertaining because it's Donald Glover from Community , yes , and he's got . He's like gray now he's in pretty good shape , but I mean he's a performer and to performer and to me you got some songs where some people might be playing the drum and the guitar , but it's all piped in , you know . But he was very entertaining and that crowd was amazing , I mean people was that interlock ?
Speaker 1I don't know where I was , little caesars actually both times oh , that was big so we , that's a big stadium , we get there thinking seven o'clock the opening person was willow . You know willow smith , but we're thinking you know most concerts . What do you think it hurt ? 7 o'clock the opening person was Willow . You know Willow Smith , but we're thinking you know most concerts .
Speaker 2What did you think of her ?
Speaker 1She when you Dead silence . Well , when you look at her and you listen to her , it was like I was watching a 70s lounge singer . That's what she should be . She looked really cool the way she was dressed and she wasn't bad . But Lil' Caesarars Arena is not a real good .
Speaker 2Not her .
Speaker 1She should be like a cozy little setting . But she was very positive about Beat . The people really enjoyed her . But my thing was we got there at 7 . Suspecting we would get into the show . The fucking line , I'm not shitting you . We had to wait forever to get in and I was like what is going on ? But anyway , so we get in and the guy scans my tickets . He's like , oh , I'm like what's going on Because I bought nosebleeds , because I needed six tickets . And he's like , hey , you need to go over there where that question mark is on that area over there . He's like you've been upgraded . Ooh , mm-hmm , ooh , mm-hmm , ooh . But all we did is we got a better section . It was a lot better actually . We were like in section 125 , off to the left of the stage , and my daughter was happy and Brooke loves it .
Speaker 2That's scary , though Go stand by the question mark .
Speaker 1Yeah , I was like , what did we do ? But it turned out well
Sesame Street Through the Years
Speaker 1Good . So , anyway , you'd think that Donald Glover was ever on Sesame Street .
Speaker 2Ooh , that's a good question . That I do not know the answer to .
Speaker 1I bet you Joel McHale was . He was in that show . He probably was , because our topic today , chevy Chase wasn't . Yeah , what's our topic today ? You know what I bet you Chevy Chase was . Oh , look , look that up . Yeah , our topic today is Sesame Street , and we've all grown up with that show ?
Speaker 2Well , not everybody .
Speaker 1No , not everybody . We did . I did Characters such as Big Bird , who represented child's curiosity , elmo , who represented the emotional center , and then that's what Elmo , I think he represents . Annoyance .
Speaker 2Yes . And then I know people like Elmo and I think he might be the most recognizable because of Takumi Elmo and all of that .
Speaker 1He came late to the party right .
Speaker 2He did , he wasn't even . It's like he wasn't even . You know the . No kidding , donald Glover , donald Glover was on Sesame Street jamming it out . Good job , Larry . Where is ?
Speaker 1Quentin , our production assistant , is never here . He should have brought that up . His name is Larry , I know . Did you know that ? Oscar the Grouch ? I just thought he was a dick .
Speaker 2Well , why ? Because he lives in a garbage . Can ?
Speaker 1He was a grumpy son of a gun , but he was there to teach people tolerance .
Speaker 2Because he had it or because other people would have it with them , or both .
Speaker 1Yeah , all of it .
Speaker 2Because really he was not happy or like sunshiny , you know , like sunshiny day smiling .
Speaker 1But he would wait it out for Big Bird to say whatever he's saying , but didn't he remind you of like your dad ? You know what I mean . Like that's just like that's dad , or whoever Ah what do you want ?
Speaker 2Ah , what do you want God ? Shut up , shut up , leave me alone . He never said shut up .
Speaker 1No , you couldn't say that no . But anyway , I was just trying to kill time and actually talk , because I usually don't while you were doing your research .
Speaker 2Elmo , let's see .
Speaker 1When did they start ?
Speaker 2November of 1969 .
Speaker 1All right .
Speaker 2That was a long time ago .
Speaker 1It was .
Speaker 2One of the longest running shows still in production in the world Joan Cooney and Lloyd Morissette . Are they the people who said we need some different children's TV ? This other children's TV is just idiotic .
Speaker 1And they got funding from the Carnegie Corporation and the United States Office of Education .
Speaker 2Oh .
Speaker 1And the Ford Foundation .
Speaker 2Yeah , wasn't there . I think there was a push to . You know it was the 70s , so it was kind of progressive in that you know , quit having these howdy-doody shows and get some education pushed .
Speaker 1Yeah , and I think the thing was try to appeal to kids of a lower income class . I think they were trying to help everybody , not just people who had cable . Yep , pbs man , pbs Free TV I love PBS .
Speaker 2I do too , so PBS , I don't even think Sesame Street's on PBS anymore . They had it on HBO or something .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , yeah , they sold it back to PBS . I guess those pledge drives stopped working .
Speaker 2But 2025 is its 56th season 150 countries Really In 56 seasons . I wonder if they dub it . You know , the language they must .
Speaker 1I don't see those public ears , maybe not . Do they have multiple ? This is a Maybe not . Do they have multiple ? This is a dumb question . Do they have multiple Ernie's and Bert's ? I mean , I'm sure they do for certain things , but for production .
Speaker 2But there has to be originals too , because people will be looking Is that the original , ernie ? But there must be more than one too .
Speaker 1What are ?
Speaker 2your thoughts on those guys , bert and Ernie . I love them . I think that the roommates and whatever personal stuff they have going on is between them . I did write down their address because it's 123 Sesame Street oh nice , easy to remember . I like the way they bounce off each other and you know Bert's kind of grumpy and Ernie's like yeah , let's you know Okay , pretty know Okay . Pretty Bert . Yeah , they're very agreeable roommates .
Speaker 1Mm-hmm .
Speaker 2And I love the Christmas special where Bert sells his I think it's paperclip collection to buy Ernie something . And what's that classic Christmas tale ? I can't think of what it is . And then Ernie sells something that's close to him and then he buys paper for his paper clips .
Speaker 1Oh jeez , okay , I don't remember that .
Speaker 2I can't remember .
Speaker 1It really had an impact on you , though .
Speaker 2It did I remember .
Speaker 1That's why you're so generous .
Speaker 2It's actually not even a video . It was a cassette tape that my kids had no kidding I still have it somewhere wait cassidy probably like something you listen to a cassette . Yeah , you know what that ?
Speaker 2I didn't know if it was a video cassette , but it's so no , it wasn't , it was a story audio only cool wasn't an album , though , and I do think that um sesame street changes and adapts to society as it is now . You know they had people who have AIDS or you know they dealt with death . They dealt with natural disasters like Katrina when it was happening . Autism .
Speaker 1They're keeping it real .
Speaker 2There is a character that was introduced in 2015 that has autism Julia . Homelessness , divorce , adoption , everything . I thought this one was pretty good too . Parental incarceration you know , not everyone's parents are going to work 9 to 5 . And then they had COVID , and they even have a gender role . They deal with that . So I think they deal with everything .
Speaker 1And they get flack from it .
Speaker 2Oh , of course , Of course , because they're probably grooming children to be deal with everything and they get flack from it . Oh , of course , of course , because they're . They're probably grooming children , sure to be just like birds , like those nasty books . Yeah , don't groom my kid to be a big bird I would be happy if my kid grew up to be a big bird um , a lot of research driven , uh folks on staff .
Speaker 1They're doing a lot of digging into issues and current events and then that's how they're developing those things . That's what I found out anyway , trying to match up current events to young development so that kids understand it .
Speaker 2So there's some thought behind it . It's not just hey , this is what we're going to do .
Speaker 1You know who we forgot to talk about , though so far he's kind of important Jim Henson .
Speaker 2Oh , Jim Henson .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2What a genius that guy is . There's a new documentary out about him . Watch it . It was so good . Oh yeah , it was very , very good , what's it on ? It's just about Jim Henson .
Speaker 1I know , but where Netflix ?
Speaker 2Oh what .
Speaker 1Apple TV .
Speaker 2Maybe Disney .
Speaker 1Disney . Maybe , Paramount , I don't know , peacock Network .
Speaker 2Just Google it , you'll find it .
Speaker 1No but .
Speaker 2He is a genius , I think Kermit the Frog Kermit .
Speaker 1Oh my gosh , Kermit the Frog here .
Speaker 2Oh , good job .
Speaker 1Miss Piggy .
Speaker 2Kermit and Piggy and that clan job .
Speaker 1Miss Piggy , kermit and Piggy and that clan .
Speaker 2Miss Piggy .
Speaker 1Grover .
Speaker 2Who is your favorite ? Kind of like Snuffleupagus that's what I was going to say , he's like mysterious .
Speaker 1Yeah , is he real or is he not real ?
Speaker 2As an imaginary friend of Big Bird . No adults ever saw him .
Speaker 1Nope , he made his appearance in 1985 and it was to encourage young viewers to speak out if they had secrets .
Speaker 2Oh , wow .
Speaker 1Maybe that's why I like him .
Speaker 2Some people compared him to Eeyore too , because he's kind of , you know over .
Speaker 1He seems pretty upbeat compared to Eeyore , though Seems pretty upbeat compared to Eeyore . Though Did you know another weird , strange thing because I thought the Snuffleupagus thing was pretty weird about the secrets you know the FBI used ?
Speaker 2episodes of Sesame Street and psychological operations training how .
Speaker 1To acclimate agents to disturbing content in a controlled manner .
Speaker 2So did they play that Elmo over and over again .
Speaker 1I bet that would do it .
Speaker 2That would break me man .
Speaker 1Miss Piggy and Elmo in an argument over and over and over and over , over and over , screaming at each other . That's what did it . It was like waterboarding , but worse .
Speaker 2I mean Elmo's cute and all but a little bit .
Speaker 1I don't like Elmo A little teeny bit , but ugh . He's cute . Two words .
Speaker 2Yeah , first of all , you've been around for a while , elmo , talking full sentences now , yeah , you know , and I think it's the third person thing , elmo this , elmo that . Yeah , say I , you would think you would . What are you teaching kids ? Elmo that ?
Speaker 1Say hi , you would think you would . What are you teaching kids , elmo , elmo ? Was Elmo the one that danced with that slut , katy Perry ?
Speaker 2Oh , with her boobs bouncing around Sesame Street .
Speaker 1Yeah , I think it was Elmo , the episode that got yanked in 2010 ? Speaking of Anyway .
Speaker 2Uh-huh , I wish I would have saw that episode . You can probably still see it on YouTube .
Speaker 1Yeah , she was wearing like this green dress that showed her cleavage and was kind of transparent .
Speaker 2She was running with . Here's the thing , though she was running .
Speaker 1It's Sesame Street man . What's wrong with the little ?
Speaker 2TNA .
Speaker 1Yeah , I mean help the kids out .
Speaker 2Gotta pay the bills somehow .
Speaker 1Yep , there's some kids sitting there alone as dad's in jail .
Speaker 2Incarcerated , that's right .
Speaker 1That's the only channel he gets . No , that's all I have . All right , thanks everybody .
Speaker 2Kate , it's up to you now . I'm down the high note of Katy Perry , let's see . So the real people on there Bob Mcgrath hey , bob , yeah , yeah , he was on from 69 to 2016 , I think he's since passed away . And then there's gordon and susan , uh , luis , and everyone knows mr hooper mr hooper and he wasn't even . I mean , he's been dead for 20 years . I I'm going to say A long time .
Speaker 1They should make a movie on Sesame Street , Not the documentary thing on Jim Hansen or whatever . But don't you think ? Or has there been ?
Speaker 2one , maybe there has been .
Speaker 1Quentin , they sell a lot of merchandise .
Speaker 2Oh my gosh their swag . They must make millions and millions .
Speaker 1Yeah , we've all bought .
Speaker 2Sesame Street swag .
Speaker 1Well , elmo stuff mostly .
Speaker 2And that tickled me , Elmo . I remember that was when Jenna was young and I'm like should I buy one ? Get a grip . No , you should not buy one .
Speaker 1Well , I have people beating each other up at Christmas to get that thing .
Speaker 2We're not . No , yeah , so I asked some people what their favorites are episodes or anything , anything so , um , my 40 year old people said smiley the worm , oh man , yes , yeah , and also , uh , she'll like snuffle up a guess , because who doesn't ? She said she sometimes gets this stuck in her head 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 , 8 , 9 , 10 , 11 , 12 . Very cool , and the other one she mentioned , which I forgot about him . But he's so cool and you have to Google it and get it on YouTube or whatever . Teeny little super guy .
Speaker 1he's a guy whose picture is on a glass .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , he's on like like a solo cup right , I don't know . He's some kind of superhero saving the world .
Speaker 1Teeny little super guy greatness starts on the solo I think a movie is .
Speaker 2It needs to be in place for Teeny Little Superguy . Yeah , yeah , definitely Next summer's blockbuster .
Speaker 1It is . Teeny Little Superguy , Get on it oh remind me about blockbuster movies when we're done with this and we'll still talk about it here . Okay , because you were part of this whole thing .
Speaker 2Oh , a blockbuster .
Speaker 1What else do you have Favorites ?
Speaker 2Well , and then that was . Cassidy said all that , jenna said she liked Maria . Oh , I did too the woman because she came to Grand Valley and spoke to them and she was very poignant , yeah . And I asked Harley and Laney and they said you know what ? We never really watched PBS or we never really watched Sesame Street . They just , you know , I think it came to a point where people have more choices than PBS . They had cable , yeah , or videos . They'd pop in that video for the hundredth time . I don't need Sesame Street .
Speaker 1You can watch South Park .
Speaker 2Yeah , and then Jay , my nephew Jay , said I'm more of a Blue's Clues kid .
Speaker 1Oh , the Blue's Clues . Okay , pbs we should have done something on the Electric Company , Damn .
Speaker 2I used to like that show . I love that show . Easy Reader Wait .
Speaker 1Yeah , he's on Electric Company , isn't he ? Oh , fuck , no , he's on Sesame Street , morgan Freeman .
Speaker 2Morgan Freeman's on Electric Company . Yeah .
Speaker 1Easy Reader , that's my name . You go around reading signs , anyway , sorry , what else you got ?
Speaker 2That's really all I have . So I'm going to say I think Sesame Street was a hero for its day and I'm glad that it's still around , even if in a different capacity . I think it'll always be a hero to me . But I can see where things have changed and even though they have changed with the times , they're not as needed as they were .
Speaker 1Right , because people are more aware .
Speaker 2Well , no .
Speaker 1Or do you think they're too soft ? People are not aware it's too soft , no aware .
Speaker 2Well , no , no . Do you think they're too soft aware people are too soft , I know I think that people have too many choices , okay , in their tv watching , and they don't watch tv anymore . You watch it on a tablet and you watch you know one thing 18 times , which kids always do that anyway , but so it's not you know I hope kids are watching Sesame Street , but I don't know that they are .
Speaker 1But keep eye on the swag . I think we'd be surprised . I bet you our email's blown up right now , probably Because that email address is heroordick2023 at gmailcom . It is Real quick .
Speaker 2What do you say , Hero or Dick ?
Speaker 1Hero , and they hold the record for the most Emmy Awards won by a television series , the record for the most Emmy .
Speaker 2Awards won by a television series . Oh well , right there .
Speaker 1Bam . Freaking hero I'm trying to think who else
Muppets, Movies, and Alpena Adventures
Speaker 1was on there ? Fozzie the Bear .
Speaker 2Well he was more of a Muppet but was he on there ?
Speaker 1He probably made some appearances . That was Gonzo right .
Speaker 2Oh , that was with the chickens . Yeah , Gonzo .
Speaker 1What is he ? No , the bird , yeah , alfonso .
Speaker 2What is he ? No , the bird , yeah . And what about that chef ?
Speaker 1Was he a Muppet or a Sesame Street guy ? I'm getting confused now . I don't know , or is he working ?
Speaker 2for yeah , what about Beaker ?
Speaker 1Beaker .
Speaker 2See , I think those are all related .
Speaker 1Yeah , they're Jim Henson guys .
Speaker 2Yeah they're Jim Henson . But I don't and they were like big muppets . They were on cisco . Yeah , they had like big mouths on what about the telly and whatever ? Yep , yep , yep , yep yeah yeah , that's what I'm talking about , but I didn't describe it very well .
Speaker 1Yeah they're , they were joined . I think they were joined twins , weren't there something ?
Speaker 2like that . No , there was , there was a bunch of them , but they were all just singular , and then they had wide open mouths like garbage games oh yeah , yeah , I remember those guys .
Speaker 1Yep , oh , all right . Well , no , I think it's , it's here . It's definitely heroic definitely hero and now I want to watch it okay before we get to blockbuster topic .
Speaker 2I just have some fast fives , so you'll give them to me very fast , You're trying to force me through this . Yes , hero or Dick Barney .
Speaker 1Dick .
Speaker 2How about Captain Kangaroo ?
Speaker 1Hero and a weirdo .
Speaker 2Hero and a weirdo . I got it . I like it . Paw Patrol .
Speaker 1Hero .
Speaker 2Okay , I've never really watched that one , kermit and Piggy Together .
Speaker 1Hero .
Speaker 2Okay , and Last Hero , or Dick Fast Five Blue's Clues .
Speaker 1I'll give it a Hero .
Speaker 2I like Blue's Clues All that stuff's good . And what about Blockbuster ? What are we saying about Blockbuster ? It's not really .
Speaker 1Blockbuster , but that movie Harsin's Revenge , yes , harsin's Island Revenge .
Speaker 2Harsin's Island Revenge .
Speaker 1They could have just did Harsin's Revenge , but I get it .
Speaker 2No , it's an island . It's a real island in Michigan .
Speaker 1That family and I , brooke Joby .
Speaker 2Damn , joby , damn it .
Speaker 1I don't know if Julian went or not , okay , he did not .
Speaker 2Julian just moves away , and I already forgot about you , julian , so we go and we stop .
Speaker 1I don't know where we were going , but we stopped in Frankenmuth In the River Place shops . You're familiar with those and there's a bookstore that I like going to Wait , not River Place shops , the ones that are outside the one .
Speaker 2yeah , yeah , Is that River Place Shops ? I don't know .
Speaker 1Anyway , there's a bookstore I like going to I think it's called Charlotte's or some shit like that and there's an author out front having a book signing . I'm like I avoid those people , even though I do it . Especially this guy was fine . He was just all dressed in a suit . It's 100 degrees outside .
Speaker 1he's really like more like a car salesman , yeah so , anyway , we avoided him at first , and then I'm like I really want to go in the store . So he stopped , brooke went inside and I was looked . I was going to ignore him too , but I looked and he had the harson's island revenge book and it was the author of that book . Did you buy it ? And I said , yeah , I bought it for you . I forgot it . Yeah , I bought it for you , I forgot it . I had him sign it for you .
Speaker 2I've been looking for that book . It was hard to find for a while , so it must be now back in being published .
Speaker 1Well , anyway , I don't know what I do with it now .
Speaker 2Well , you'll find it .
Speaker 1I thought of you anyway .
Speaker 2Yeah , oh , that's good .
Speaker 1So , he uh you know , I was like and then I saw like wait a minute , I'll talk to you . I said I you know he's talking about all this stuff . I'm like I just I'll tell you the reason I stopped is because of this book and the movie was an alpina . And he's like , oh yeah , alpina , blah , blah . And he showed me the movie trailer . Have you seen it ? I have it's really good well , I mean for a lower budget movie , or whatever right , it's not a blockbuster , no , it intriguing .
Speaker 1And you could see your building in there and you could see some of the folks from Alpena .
Speaker 2Oh , there's a whole bunch of .
Speaker 1They filmed .
Speaker 2So much in Alpena , All over Alpena and surrounding areas too Very cool .
Speaker 1So that was my brush with fame that was related to you .
Speaker 2It's a super interesting story that is based on the truth . These guys came back from World .
Speaker 2War I and they couldn't drink because it was Prohibition , so they started making their own . Well , the Purple Gang didn't like that . We're already making Moonshine here and so they were on that Harsin's Island and in fact , the people from the movie which I can't think of the name of their CDI . They said they originally wanted to film on Harsin's Island , but it's an island and they're like it's not really practical . If you need some tape or you know electrical cord or whatever , you can't just run to Home Depot and get it . It's an actual island that still has cottages and homes on it . So yeah , I think it's .
Speaker 1November , november . They're doing a screening here .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , the opening will be here in Alpena . It will be posted .
Speaker 1Mm-hmm , mm-hmm . Well , that's it , I guess .
Speaker 2Yeah , one more thing on movies . I will tell you more about it next time , but there is somebody filming another movie at our building , at Centennial Building in Alpena , michigan .
Speaker 1Really .
Speaker 2It's a short . Well , I'm just going to leave it at that , and next time I'll know more .
Speaker 1Okay .
Speaker 2Because they just have a one-day shoot time and that's happening this week , so I want to make sure it happens first .
Speaker 1We should maybe move this podcast there .
Speaker 2We could except it's hot and cold . It is very hot and cold . It is also under construction and then not under construction .
Speaker 1Oh , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2It's still being repaired from the storm . Yeah , All right everyone . Well , thanks for listening . Thank you , tune in next time for the update .
Speaker 1Right on Enjoy .
Speaker 2Okay , bye .
People on this episode
Podcasts we love
Check out these other fine podcasts recommended by us, not an algorithm.
SmartLess
Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett
Inside Conan: An Important Hollywood Podcast
Team Coco & Earwolf
