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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick, S2, Ep. 16 - Best of Hero or Dick
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Join Kate & KJ as they take a fun-filled trip down memory lane, talking about previous episodes. They review some favorite (and no-so-favorite) topics, give shout outs to guests, supporters, and as usual, get sidetracked with off-topic thoughts and banter. And for once, KJ even has a fast-five!
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~ Kate & KJ
Parenting and Podcast Reflections
Speaker 1Hello , welcome to Hero or Dick .
Speaker 2Yes , yeah , today's September 17th 2024 still . It is still 2024 , the year that never ends , yeah . This is season two of our podcast and it's episode 16 .
Speaker 1And once again we're broadcasting from Horse Feathers Studio in .
Speaker 2Alpena Michigan . Thanks , brooke . And our topic today is Nothing . Best of .
Speaker 1Best of nothing .
Speaker 2Best of nothing .
Speaker 1It's like a Seinfeld episode the show about nothing .
Speaker 2But wet my whistle here because our podcast has had 500 downloads 513 yeah , 513 as of this morning 14 .
Speaker 1There goes another one just kidding .
Speaker 2Boom , they're going boom .
Speaker 1Yeah , we decided we'd get together and just talk a bit about the show . Some of the episodes we're going to recap if you're listening to it .
Speaker 2you probably already know where you can listen to it , but you can find it Spotify , amazon , buzzcast .
Speaker 1Deezer .
Speaker 2Deezer .
Speaker 1Deezer .
Speaker 2Oh Deezer .
Speaker 1I don't even know what that is .
Speaker 2I don't either but it's on the list .
Speaker 1I thought we were on Apple , but Because , once I saw it on , we were on Apple , but because once I saw Google too , and then Google changed all their podcast stuff . Well , I think it's because profanity got us booted .
Speaker 2Oh , I'm just kidding . Use more . Is that what you're saying ?
Speaker 1It's been a while , though , since we've been recording , because we've been busy with other things .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's been a couple of weeks three weeks , two weeks , something like that .
Speaker 1Yeah , ten weeks . My kid's at college , you know that .
Speaker 2Yeah , how's it going ?
Speaker 1He doesn't really care about coming home , which is good .
Speaker 2I think it's not good for mom and dad .
Speaker 1Well , I get it , but I get it .
Speaker 2I understand .
Speaker 1Like he's so comfortable .
Speaker 2That's good .
Speaker 1Doing nothing . I mean he's busy , he's got his sports and school and whatever else but he's a track guy , he is . And he likes laying around a lot when he's not doing anything . All right , so I think that he's really enjoying just being on . It's hard because , as you know , once they hit 18 , they're so-called adults . They don't need us , supposedly .
Speaker 2Except when they need some money , except when they need us Advice . Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1But it's weird because there's nothing you can do now . I mean , you can guide them , it's kind of freeing , I thought . It is .
Speaker 2I think , so . You know you don't have to . Yes , you worry about them . Of course you do , but it's kind of like , all right , well , you're under the college , worry now .
Speaker 1Yeah , and something we've noticed grocery bill's a little a lot lower , A lot lower , A lot lower . We now know who was eating all the food in the house and then still , though you have to get used to and it's not that big a deal , but I mean he's a big boy , I mean he's 6'2 and 190 pounds . He's an athlete , he can eat .
Speaker 2He could eat because he was running a lot . And lifting and all that shit , whatever , yeah , and .
Speaker 1And so when you make dinner now , you got to remember , it's just me . I eat a lot , obviously , but not some old bees , I'm getting ready . I'm getting ready for hibernation , that's right , that's right . And Brooke and Joey don't eat much . So now it's like okay , I'm cooking like my mom , my mom's still cooking , like she has three boys in the house , you know .
Speaker 2It's hard . My mom , till the day she died , shopped like she still had six kids at home .
Speaker 1Was she giving you food , Like I'll take some when you go ? I was taking it .
Speaker 2It's like wow , you have eight cans of chicken noodle soup . I'll take some off your hands .
Speaker 1But the parenting thing is fun .
Speaker 2Parenting from a distance .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's weird , it's good because you , at least you can text yeah , and he called . He does call once a week . I told him , oh , and brook did . Before you leave , call your mother once a week at least does he call her every sunday pretty much . Yeah , yeah , yeah , I think he actually called her a couple times this week , because one time he went Because the JCPenney down there one of our sponsors . They had a sale for .
Speaker 1Northwood University students , athletes , I think , because they have to get dress clothes for some things interviews , traveling- yeah , yeah . So they had a discount sale so he went there and bought two suits Wow .
Speaker 2So he's 18 and he owns two suits .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's impressive . Right there it is , but hopefully it doesn't outgrow them .
Speaker 2He's done growing , isn't he ?
Speaker 1I don't think he is Really Lifting and stuff Anyway . But he got double charged Uh-oh , and so he called right away to ask what he should do and I said go back into the store , talk to the person that just checked and they just told him at midnight it would get fixed because their computers update Right and did it . I don't know . Never heard from him . It must've .
Speaker 2It must've been .
Speaker 1We would've heard from him otherwise , but no , I'm proud of him otherwise . But no , I'm proud of him . He's doing alright . And then there's that other one , that blonde one . You've met her , jovi .
Speaker 2Yeah , what's her name ?
Speaker 1Joby Jody , josie Jovi , jovi .
Speaker 2Jovi .
Speaker 1Is she named after Jon Bon Jovi ?
Speaker 2Jon Bon Jovi , I think that's why Unless Brooke ?
Speaker 1I don't know . Maybe she told you whatever secretly she was like I love Jon Bon Jovi , she did go to a couple concerts , shout out to Jon Bon Jovi or Ballyhoo , because he saved somebody this past week who was on a bridge going to jump ?
Speaker 2and him and another guy were driving by or something and he saw her and he talked her off the ledge . You know what , if I was going to jump and I saw Bon Jovi come to my rescue , I think I would say you know what , if I was going to jump and I saw Bon Jovi come to my rescue , I think I would say you know what ? Sure I won't jump .
Speaker 1Yeah that , or grab him and take him over , or grab him and take him with you . Go down like a legend , poor John Bon Jovi . Guy had throat surgery .
Speaker 2You know he couldn't .
Speaker 1I don't think he can sing anymore .
Speaker 2Oh , can he ?
Speaker 1Yeah . Well , I was listening to that podcast , smart List , with some people on there that we don't talk about anymore . He was on there and , yeah , he had some serious issues and he's not supposed to sing for a while .
Speaker 2He might not ever sing again . I just listened to that same podcast with those evil people on it , but their guest was Michael Keaton .
Speaker 1Yes .
Speaker 2I can't tell you how much I love him .
Speaker 1Yeah , I do too yeah .
Speaker 2I have not seen the Beetlejuice Beetlejuice movie yet , but I hear it's fabulous for my children . Cassidy , I think , watched the original Beetlejuice movie , I'm going to guess , 112 times .
Speaker 1Really . Yeah , that's pretty impressive . Yeah , she probably knows quite a bit about it then .
Speaker 2Well , I hadn't watched it for years , 20 years plus and I did watch it recently , within the past two weeks , and I was surprised at how many catchphrases . I was just zipping them up . I was like oh yeah , I remember that movie .
Speaker 1That was a great podcast .
Speaker 2That podcast yeah .
Speaker 1Michael Keaton's just awesome . Michael Keaton . Why isn't he president ? Yeah ?
Speaker 2Michael Keaton's just awesome Michael Keaton . Why isn't he president ?
Speaker 1Yeah , why isn't he ?
Speaker 2I don't know .
Speaker 1Why haven't we done a show about Michael ?
Speaker 2Keaton , he's too smart . Well , I'm putting him on the list , right now Put him on that list . Mike , we'll call him .
Speaker 1Mike , Mikey K Anyway . But the daughter there , she likes the Beetlejuice too and I want to take her to see it . But teenage girls are different .
Speaker 2Than what .
Speaker 1Not teenage girls .
Speaker 2They kind of have their own world Personalities .
Speaker 1Okay , I'm just kidding . No , she's interesting . A lot of boys seem to like her .
Speaker 2Well , she's blonde , so right there .
Speaker 1Yeah , they seem to come around the house , yeah , and she's always like oh , they're just friends and I'm like to you . That's not that they have any nefarious plans , but they like her , they've taken a shine to her .
Speaker 2If you know , you were a teenage boy before . I don't care what they're saying , they're still teenage boys .
Speaker 1Yeah right , they don't want to be in the friend zone , they want to be a boyfriend . A boyfriend , yeah , but she hopefully keeps putting them in the friend zone . She does have a boyfriend though , oh , she does . Yeah , evan , he's a nice kid , been around a while here .
Speaker 2Hmm .
Speaker 1He said , like I think , six words . He's quiet .
Speaker 2That's good .
Speaker 1I think she probably likes it that way too . She's pretty bossy . I love you , jovi . Back to the show , though . Talking about downloads listeners , I could give a ballyhoo Is that what we call them ?
Speaker 2Yeah , it's a ballyhoo .
Speaker 1This lady , a woman that works with me . She started listening to our podcast , Phyllis , so thanks .
Speaker 2Phyllis .
Speaker 1Hey , phyllis . Phyllis is a baker , oh , and a cooker , and collects a lot of vinyl . That's a chef not a cooker . That too . Cooker sounds like she's a rice cooker or a breaking bad cookin' .
Speaker 2Oh yeah .
Speaker 1Cookin' Cookin' something special .
Speaker 2You need to clarify .
Speaker 1Blue ice .
Speaker 2She does not make that .
Speaker 1Do you have any updates on listeners ?
Speaker 2On listeners , well , I would say that our most loyal listener is Cassidy .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2She listens to all of them and she critiques . And man does she critique ? Yeah , I don't want to know . No , you don't want to know . But no , you know . No , I I've shared them with you , I know what was the one thing she didn't like
Cereal Favorites and Baking Adventures
Speaker 2?
Speaker 1that ah forget well she had a couple opinions um a few things .
Speaker 2She did tell me that um the latest episode on sesame street . She had forgotten to remind me that there was a I think it's European and I think it's Russian version of Sesame Street . She said it's very interesting to watch it .
Speaker 1Probably not a good time to mess with my mic , huh .
Speaker 2No , just leave it .
Speaker 1Goddamn buzzing sound that no one is going to hear except for me .
Speaker 2No one's going to hear .
Speaker 1You know we should . As know , as we grow , you know we become millionaires doing this . We can hire Cassidy .
Speaker 2Cassidy would come .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2I would love for her to come and do a show . Jenna's done a show , Jenna and Jovi ballyhoo to you .
Speaker 1Ballyhoo , you are two the brave souls .
Speaker 2Brave guests . Jenna did a phone-in and it was hilarious about the mustaches .
Speaker 1It was hilarious . Yeah Was Jovi on two of them .
Speaker 2Yeah , Jovi's been here twice .
Speaker 1Serial killers . That's what she really wanted to tune in for .
Speaker 2Yeah and she did a good job .
Speaker 1How many downloads did we get on the serial ?
Speaker 2killers ? Oh , I don't . Can I tell from here ?
Speaker 1How many times did we get on the serial killer ? Oh , I don't .
Speaker 2Can I tell from here ? I don't know . I thought it was on the list , that doesn't matter . I want to say the biggest feedback I got was from our episode about serials , not serial killers .
Speaker 1I think that was one of the most popular ones .
Speaker 2Because people have opinions about their serial .
Speaker 1They really enjoy serial or they don't .
Speaker 2Or they don't , or they enjoy certain types Right cereal or they don't , or they don't , or they enjoy certain types right . Nobody . Nobody got a hold of me and said man , I love grape nuts . Why didn't you talk about grape nuts , which I think we did ?
Speaker 1but I enjoy grape nuts do you like your teeth ? I do , I and , but the thing is to help the cereal . But what do I do ?
Speaker 2I just load it up with sugar oh , do you put sugar on top of cereal still ?
Speaker 1I , I do .
Speaker 2I actually put some on some count chocula , don't tell anybody you know , I mean , I can remember being a kid and adding sugar , but I never let my kids , my kids , add sugar well , I'm an adult , god damn it .
Speaker 1I buy , I buy the sugar . I can put sugar on it .
Speaker 2I do remember we just talked about it . This weekend Jenna went to a friend of hers who was the only child . She went to her house and she came home and said Mom , she has three boxes of cereal open at once . Blasphemy , because at our house it was like you want that second box . You got to finish this first box and it was like you want that second bag , you gotta finish this first bag . And she was like amazed .
Speaker 1That kid's living large .
Speaker 2She got three boxes of cereal . What type of cereal would you like ? Which one would you like ? I don't know .
Speaker 1It wasn't like that for me either . Not that it was a bad thing .
Speaker 2It just made sense .
Speaker 1The world's different now . People have multiple boxes open at one time .
Speaker 2Apparently , isn't that nuts ? Well , this kid didn't grow up to be a stellar human being , so maybe it was because of the cereal . That's all I'm saying .
Speaker 1Hey , at your house now or in the past , did you keep the cereal in a box or did you put it into a container ?
Speaker 2We just put it or we just kept it in a box , Because it usually didn't last long enough to do that .
Speaker 1Oh , I got you .
Speaker 2We keep them in these tall containers , yeah , like a Tupperware thing I do too , but you know at our house if they opened one you know , like within a few days it was gone and , honestly , I haven't bought cereal . No , that's not true .
Speaker 1I bought gingerbread toast crunch and I made Rice Krispie Treats , or they equate equal to Rice Krispie .
Speaker 2Treats out of them . They're gone . They're delicious , they were delicious . I would make them again , and it's such an easy thing to make .
Speaker 1Did we ? Oh my God , did I talk ? I get off track , sorry .
Speaker 2No what .
Speaker 1About my baking and cooking lately .
Speaker 2No , are you on a baking spree ?
Speaker 1That's one of my hobbies now .
Speaker 2Did Phyllis teach you that ?
Speaker 1No , no , no I she has to make the dinner . It doesn't have to , but she's usually home at dinnertime more than I am . So I feel bad . I'm like I've got to sack up here , especially when I have another mouth to feed . I'm like I'm going to start making stuff . I've only made so far a meatloaf , turkey and turkey sausage meatloaf , which they called savory Really . Then I made no-bake peanut butter bars .
Speaker 2Those are got to be good . Easy to make , but they were good . No-bake cookies are good Gluten-free .
Speaker 1It's broke , you know , on the gluten . What was the other thing I just made yesterday ? Mexican fiesta chicken ?
Speaker 2Oh , that sounds delicious .
Speaker 1That's delightful , my next dessert is going to be a layered lemon cake .
Speaker 2I'm not messing around , that sounds time-consuming .
Speaker 1I know , but I like to do it on Sundays . It's therapeutic .
Speaker 2Oh , okay , I need time in the kitchen .
Speaker 1And then one more thing . Back to the cereal , yep , because it was an episode .
Speaker 2It was a very popular episode .
Speaker 1Did we talk about Count Choculum Booberry ?
Speaker 2I believe so Last time , but I would have to .
Speaker 1So that means we've had those boxes of cereal .
Speaker 2since we talked about this , maybe you should have put them in the Tupperware things .
Speaker 1But I just had a realization that as I was eating the Count Chocula and then I tried the Boo-Berry , I thought I always liked Count Chocula better . That's not true anymore .
Speaker 2I like Boo-Berry better . Your tastes have matured .
Speaker 1Yeah , do you like those cereals ? No , isn't there Frankenberry too ? There is Frankenberry . You don't like that shit .
Speaker 2No , I'm not . I like Cinnamon Toast Crunch , which I think was just on the top of the list for most popular cereal Cinnamon Toast Crunch . I like just a bowl of Cheerios sometimes .
Speaker 1Cookie Crisp .
Speaker 2No , but Oreo cereal .
Speaker 1You do like Oreo cereal , that's right .
Speaker 2But I don't eat it for breakfast . Snack I have it later for a snack , yeah , yeah , yeah , okay , because it's mini Oreos .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2Mm-hmm .
Speaker 1I love cereal . Anyway , on to the next .
Speaker 2So we did cereal and serial killers .
Speaker 1Serial killers was a good one , I thought . But it's hard to talk about that and not sound like we're promoting . Why would we ?
Speaker 2yeah , and why would we say those serial killers ?
Speaker 1they're heroes yeah , no , you can't say that , even though they're not . I'm just kidding . Um , what if that person that was jumping off the bridge was a serial killer ?
Speaker 2we don't know . And so john bad jovi saved her for what ?
Speaker 1maybe that person was a real asshole . Person's gonna child molester . You don what . Maybe that person was a real asshole and now that person's going to Child molester . You don't know what that person was .
Speaker 2We don't know .
Speaker 1I guess I don't either . I shouldn't say that stuff .
Speaker 2Here . Let me just run down the list really quick
Random Pop Culture Discussions
Speaker 2. So our first episode was about Ben . Franklin .
Speaker 1Lame .
Speaker 2Why ? Why is that lame ? I'm just kidding I .
Speaker 1I think about the other stuff we talked about seems more interesting , but Ben Franklin got a lot of listens . No , ben Franklin was very interesting .
Speaker 2I thought , oh yeah , that's because , and you know Did- he have bones in his basement . He had bones in the basement . Not because he was a serial killer , but because he was interested in science and that's what Dahmer said anatomy .
Speaker 1And then he liked to sit naked in his window .
Speaker 2Well , who doesn't ? I guess , and then the second episode . We did Oprah .
Speaker 1Yeah , just silence Oprah .
Speaker 2You know , she's .
Speaker 1Oprah , she's fine .
Speaker 2She's fine . Edgar Allan Poe , king Charles .
Speaker 1You love , king Charles .
Speaker 2I do love the royal . You love the Brits , I do .
Speaker 1That's why you like that Land Rover . I do it's British .
Speaker 2British yeah Times why you like that Land Rover . I do . It's British British yeah Times . Get the beautiful new Land Rover outside .
Speaker 1Not new , it's a 2023 . A Defender .
Speaker 2How come you don't have a license plate ?
Speaker 1They won't give me one .
Speaker 2No shit , it's not legal , they told me .
Speaker 1I got an update because I bought it from Carvana .
Speaker 2Oh , and it's been a while .
Speaker 1I researched the shit out of trying to find the one I wanted and that's where I found it , and I bought cars from there before and it was a good experience . This one was so-so . They kind of jerking me around saying they had it , then they didn't have it . I drove all the way down , was about halfway there and they told me , oh , it's not going to be there until Monday , and I day and I'm like bullshit . And then turns out that was in transit . Anyway , it all worked out , but they were working on getting my registration completed and they said now it might not be until the end of November . So who can drive around with a paper plate that long ? Oh , wow .
Speaker 2You're going to get pulled over .
Speaker 1I hope so . Anyway , what was the after the After that ?
Speaker 2was another popular one called Cartoon Duos .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , like Fred and Barney Fred and .
Speaker 2Barney , and who were the other ones , garfield and Odie . Yeah , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1Phlegm and Phlegm .
Speaker 2That was very popular . Who's Phlegm and Phlegm ? People do like those . I don't know who are Phlegm and Phlegm .
Speaker 1I don't know , isn't that when we fired Phillip , our production assistant , because he didn't know ?
Speaker 2Other cartoon duos we probably did . I'm so excited to see if I have it here .
Speaker 1Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd .
Speaker 2Here it is . Yeah , garfield , odie , smurfs More than a duo . Barney , I like Barney , I can't do it . He was always so positive . I like Barney , I can't do it .
Speaker 1He was always so positive , I know .
Speaker 2Usually yeah .
Speaker 1I don't know , did we do Charlie Brown Snoopy ? I don't remember that .
Speaker 2I don't think we did , but we should have . That's a whole thing . You can do a whole thing on Peanuts . I'll put it on the list .
Speaker 1We've got to do a Halloween episode coming up .
Speaker 2Oh , okay , then we had . We talked about Walt Disney . I thought he was going to be a dick , but he wasn't Turned out , he's okay . Yeah .
Speaker 1He's a heroic color .
Speaker 2I mean , he was a white male in the you know 30s , 40s and 50s .
Speaker 1He was who he was at the time .
Speaker 2Then Bob Hope . I don't know why we chose Bob Hope Real estate mogul . Do people even know ?
Speaker 1who Bob Hope is anymore , but he had some affairs . But he was kind of interesting .
Speaker 2He was kind of a scandalous fella , you know , you think he's just a guy having some specials and entertaining the troops overseas , but no , he was more than that .
Speaker 1Yeah , and his wife , even though she knew he was messing around , quite often just supported him . That's my Bobby .
Speaker 2Well , some people don't care or don't mind , I should say . I think Dave Grohl's wife is feeling otherwise .
Speaker 1So fill me in on everything there .
Speaker 2Well , all I know is that Dave Grohl had a daughter out of wedlock .
Speaker 1Are those new glasses ? They're cheaters . Every time you come here , you have different glasses . It's because they're always cheaters .
Speaker 2I like those . Oh , thank you yeah they're red . They're red . Yes , Not Sally Chessie Raphael Red , Remember her .
Speaker 1I do . She had baby red glasses . That's another good topic . Ricky Lake , sally Chessie , phil Donahue .
Speaker 2Remember that guy . He just recently died . Oh RIP Phil .
Speaker 1Wait , wait , wait Okay , dave Grohl .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't know . Child on a wedlock , that's all I know .
Speaker 1Yeah , like for a rock star ? Just one . But I guess he was . What is he like ? The family man of grunge , or ?
Speaker 2something he was .
Speaker 1I was so disappointed in him , are you and ?
Speaker 2his mother . I'm not glad she died , but I'm glad she's not around to see that Well , she knows , I'm sure . Because she would have been very disappointed in you , David , if you were listening All right Enough about Dave Grohl , who I still like .
Speaker 1And I would check out his Hot Ones episode , by the way . Oh really , it's like doing a shot with every wing he eats .
Speaker 2Maybe that's how he got somebody pregnant so then we talked about Cher , which I believe was you Do , you believe in love . I was going to say I think that's the only time I sang on the show . I didn't sing that .
Speaker 1I can't remember which one I sang . That's a dynamic duo .
Speaker 2Cher , sonny and Cher , yeah yeah , they were kings and queens of the early 60s . She was a hero yeah .
Speaker 1She was wasn 60s . She was a hero . Yeah , she was , wasn't she ? She's a hero , yeah , she is she's cool She'd take my shit .
Speaker 2No , she's .
Speaker 1Cher yeah . The world bows to Cher the Mask we talked about the Mask because of Cher , great movie , fantastic movie .
Speaker 2She's in a couple great movies . What's that other one about Bone ? No , well , I mean , it's fine . No , she was a supporting cast to , I believe , meryl Streep , and it was about that woman who was the whistleblower on the nuclear place , what was it called ? Silkwood ? And Cher was in that movie .
Speaker 1I believe you , she was really good . Was she in Witches of Eastwick ?
Speaker 2She was yeah .
Speaker 1Okay .
Speaker 2And that's my movie too . Okay , after Cher kind of the same thing . We talked about Albert Einstein .
Speaker 1Mm-hmm .
Speaker 2I like him .
Speaker 1He's all right . Yeah , yeah , familiar with him .
Speaker 2He's kind of smart .
Speaker 1Yeah , real smart .
Speaker 2And then we did an episode Obscurity in the Spotlight , what which I think we just picked . What ?
Speaker 1was it .
Speaker 2It's titled Obscurity in the Spotlight .
Speaker 1That's something . Yeah , I generated that title . It must have .
Speaker 2I liked it .
Speaker 1Okay , I chose the Michael Fagan who is the guy who broke into the fucking palace .
Speaker 2Oh , another British thing .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's all right . Everything else is American , so that's okay . You know , throw some more stuff in there , wait .
Speaker 2And I can't remember who you picked .
Speaker 1I don't either , I don't so it wasn't very memorable . No , but I do remember that guy breaking in .
Speaker 2Yeah , it was a fascinating story . Yeah , but I do remember that guy breaking in . Yeah , it was a fascinating story .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's like sneaking onto the golf course , and peeking out of the bushes with a gun Not good , get you in big trouble .
Speaker 2That gets you in a lot of trouble . Yeah , what are ? Fucking people thinking no matter what side of the fence you're on you can't do that stuff , you can't do that , no , but people keep doing it .
Speaker 1Well .
Speaker 2Okay , so after Obscurity we did PT Burnham .
Speaker 1That was a fun one . He's interesting . That was really interesting actually .
Speaker 2Yeah , he was very interesting . Another interesting one that we did was AI Speaking of , and then , going along with AI , we did UFOs after .
Speaker 1I love UFOs .
Speaker 2I do too they have a smooth ride . Do they ?
Speaker 1I don't know . I hear that Probably .
Speaker 2Well , yeah , so we're going to hit some turbulence on this UFO . You never hear that . No , you don't hear that , and then we talked about another UFO , johnny Depp .
Speaker 1Johnny Depp Coming to the aid of Taylor Swift recently .
Speaker 2Oh , has he Yep , because she needs people sticking up for her .
Speaker 1Well , he's basically saying why are people bashing on I'm paraphrasing bashing on a woman who built her own fortune instead of being handed to her , who went up through the ranks , became a billionaire when some guy tried to steal her music , decided I'm going to re-record all my music and make it mine , which she did , and I don't know . We did an episode , obviously .
Speaker 2We did do an episode on Taylor Swift too .
Speaker 1And I don't know . I even think I got my wife likes her more now . I don't know . She just actually is a straight up kind of person .
Speaker 2She is , she is and she's another , cher , she doesn't take shit . You gonna do that . Alright , go ahead .
Speaker 1That was cool , that Johnny Depp kind of said , hey , you know , but anyway , the Johnny Depp thing did we get into his whole . Yeah , we did didn't we ?
Speaker 2Yeah , we did . Okay , we don't have to bash it , let's not .
Speaker 1Actually he's fun to party with .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , I would think so . I don't know if he's partying anymore .
Speaker 1He probably shouldn't .
Speaker 2I hope he's toned it down a bit . Yeah , I mean he's old , but he's like my age .
Eclectic Topics and Fun Banter
Speaker 2Then we did a Thanksgiving spectacular . I don't know if that was spectacular .
Speaker 1We talked about food , family , family functions .
Speaker 2And then we did a show about Rush the Canadian band we did .
Speaker 1You had some friends that were quite interested in that .
Speaker 2Yes , they did like the Rush . I learned a lot about Rush .
Speaker 1I did too .
Speaker 2I don't love all of their music , but , holy cow , they have a huge library of music too . But , man , you put on 2112 and I am ready to go to a keg party like .
Speaker 1I'm a teenager , you and Johnny Depp .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , that would be fun . Then we had a Christmas special , then we had a New Year's special .
Speaker 1That's all we do . Are specials ? Yes , it is .
Speaker 2And then the Crunchy Chronicles of Cereal , your favorite Mm-hmm . Now we're into season two .
Speaker 1Here we are .
Speaker 2And then Pablo .
Speaker 1Picasso hey , he kind of was a dick .
Speaker 2He kind of was a dick yeah .
Speaker 1But he's Pablo Picasso . It's Picasso . Love or hate his art .
Speaker 2You hate his art . I said even if you love or hate his art .
Speaker 1I'm pretty sure you said you hate his art . I'm just kidding , I don't hate his art .
Speaker 2I'm pretty sure you said you hate his art .
Speaker 1I'm just kidding . I don't hate it , but I don't get all the hoopla about it . The Cuba stuff that he stole from African-American art .
Speaker 2Whatever , hey , okay , it's on you , pablo . Yep , then we did an interesting one that I learned so much about caves .
Speaker 1Caving Spelunking , spelunking , spelunking .
Speaker 2See you remember that I do . Yeah , spelunky . And then we talked about another Abe , which is Courtney Love .
Speaker 1I'm afraid to say anything about Courtney Love .
Speaker 2Why Do you think she could come and kick your ass ? I ?
Speaker 1think she probably would . Even if I said nice stuff , she might kick my ass .
Speaker 2She might .
Speaker 1I think she probably would , even if I said nice stuff , she might kick my ass , she might . I think she just likes to fight . See , right now I'm wondering if she's going to hear this she's I don't know , I think in the end , we decided she was a hero . I think we had to .
Speaker 2Because we don't want her to kick her ass Right . Then we talked about aquariums .
Speaker 1Yeah , we did . Why didn't we pick that ?
Speaker 2I don't know , but I like it where it is .
Speaker 1They're fascinating and we found out , the biggest one is in Japan . Correct , like in a big shopping center or ?
Speaker 2something , maybe the world's largest was . I don't know I'd have to go again . I can't remember , but I feel like I learned a lot .
Speaker 1It's silly that we don't remember .
Speaker 2No , it's not , it's not .
Speaker 1That was cool , though that was a cool one . Then we talked about Stephen King , the King of Horror .
Speaker 2That's a guy that don't give a shit In a good way . Yes , he's going to tell you . When somebody shot at Trump the first time , he said well , you made these guns legal in this county where he got shot in . Pennsylvania . So what do you think is going to ?
Speaker 1happen and stop pissing people off .
Speaker 2Well , that too .
Speaker 1I'll shut up , I'm sorry . Well , no , anybody . It's like anybody . If you're out there running your fucking mouth all the time , what do you think is going to happen ? Sooner or later , someone's going to come up to you in the grocery store and smack you with a patch of bacon or something . You're like shut the fuck up .
Speaker 2Okay , I was imagining they were going to hit like with a French loaf of bread .
Speaker 1I couldn't think of anything .
Speaker 2I like the pound of bacon better . Then we talked about the mafia , which we could do another whole thing on the mafia . Maybe that was Cassidy's favorite .
Speaker 1Those guys not nice . They do heroic things for the communities that they're trying to dominate .
Speaker 2Yes , yes .
Speaker 1But I love the mafia Wink wink . I don't want them coming after me either .
Speaker 2The Polish mafia especially , I think . Just the movies that they generated almost make them a hero . Yeah , the same , true . Then we talked about ghosts , always interesting . Then we talked about Taylor Swift and weddings and bookstores .
Speaker 1Mm-hmm .
Speaker 2And then amusement parks , and then serial killers , and then Sesame Street serial killers , no , just Sesame Street .
Speaker 1Wow , we went from serial killers to Sesame Street .
Speaker 2We did Boom , I like that Turn the page , mm-hmm . Turn the page .
Speaker 1Turn the page .
Speaker 2Wait . That being said , all those topics , listeners , we will take into consideration any topic that you can email us at heroordick2023 at gmailcom .
Speaker 1Or .
Speaker 2I think now too Hero or Dick 2023 at gmailcom Mm-hmm .
Speaker 1Mm-hmm , or I think now too , if you go to our Buzzsprout site for Hero or Dick , excuse me you are able to messages directly from that site . Oh , I think there is a link that says text us or messages , and you can click that and so you don't have to worry about , you know , sharing your email or sharing your phone number or oh , whatever .
Speaker 2So we're not going to share it with anybody . But no , yeah , we've got no friends .
Speaker 1No , we don't have anybody , don't even have any listeners but no , 513 downloads , not huge , but whatever , we appreciate every one of those downloads we do , and we obviously aren't doing this for money . We do it for fun , we do , and hopefully that comes up . Yeah , kate said when we started this if it's not fun , we're not doing it . So when it becomes work , we're not doing it , true that . So stay away from us Apple and YouTube and other production companies .
Speaker 2We could still have fun if somebody paid us . That's true . I'm not saying that no .
Speaker 1I get it . Well , we're at your favorite , 31 minutes . Do you want to talk about any more things ?
Speaker 2I don't have a fast five , do you ?
Speaker 1No , we can make one up though . Ready Fishing .
Speaker 2Oh , I love to fish , hunting Not as much . Oh , I love to fish , yeah hero Hunting . Not as much . Now why ? Because you're killing a fish , but I don't want to kill a deer .
Speaker 1It's okay to eat fish because fish don't have any feelings . Didn't Kurt Cobain say that in a song ?
Speaker 2It's because Kurt Cobain said it doesn't make it true . Are you serious ? Ask for it , mate . I didn't know that .
Speaker 1Yeah , oh , I got three more Ready .
Speaker 2Ready .
Speaker 1Movie theater popcorn .
Speaker 2Oh , such a hero . All right , like you could have it . I save myself when I'm going to the movies . I can't have movie theater popcorn when I go to the movies . I might not go . That's true . I don't care what movie it is either , and , like during the Oppenheimer , I knew it was what a great movie and it was three hours long . So I got this giant fucking pop .
Speaker 1You had to get your own seat for the popcorn .
Speaker 2I almost did this giant pop or soda .
Speaker 1Soda I mean .
Speaker 2I had to pace myself . Did you , yeah , it worked out okay though .
Speaker 1I do that Like if I buy a snack and there's some noisy asshole next to me wrinkling their bag , chewing with their mouth open . I have to eat my stuff while they eat theirs , so I don't hear them .
Speaker 2Psycho , I know . So yeah , movie theater popcorn , big hero , not for the waistline , no .
Speaker 1You can eat that shit . Even if you come from a big seven-course meal and you're stuffed , you still want to eat when we feed you popcorn . Yeah , you still want popcorn , and they ask the dumb question do you want butter on it ?
Speaker 2What , what ? Jenna used to work at the movie theater in Thomas State and she said , Mom , when they ask you , do you want powder ? On that you can't say hell yeah .
Speaker 1That's why not ? Yeah , load me up .
Speaker 2Don't let me have any fun .
Speaker 1Full service pumps at the gas station .
Speaker 2I don't . I never go to them because I don't know where they are , but I think they're really good for older people .
Speaker 1They make me uneasy .
Speaker 2Do they ? Do you feel like you have to tip the person ?
Speaker 1I feel like I tip everybody . That's like a sickness . I don't know how to stop it .
Speaker 2I don't either . And where do the tips end ? Do you tip , do you not , do ? I give you a tip .
Speaker 1How much are they getting ? Should I ?
Speaker 2give you a tip today I how much are they getting paid ?
Speaker 2Should I give you a tip today ? I don't know , I don't know . I'll take a few bucks . So when we were in England , the tip is included , but is it ? Yes , because we had a restaurant by us , a bar restaurant . It was fabulous Carpenter's Arms or the builder's arms , and Tom the manager there was fabulous to us , and so we always tried to tip him like big fat Americans , and he's like you don't have to tip . We got it in here and we're like well , don't you want the extra tip ? He goes we get paid a living wage , so we don't need your tips .
Speaker 1Well , they took them no that's cool .
Speaker 2But he said you don't have to , it's built in .
Speaker 1Sure .
Speaker 2All right , I kind of liked that too , because it was always less than I usually tip . How much do you ?
Speaker 1tip Too much I always tip too much .
Speaker 2Too much too , because I feel like , oh my God , this waitress is working a Saturday . The girls and I went out to a place and you know , it was a lady my age or older , I'm like . Here she is working on a Saturday the whole day .
Speaker 1So yeah , you feel I don't know when do you stop ? How do you ?
Speaker 2Then who do you yeah ?
Speaker 1And how much do you give ?
Speaker 2And I'm tipping this person and maybe they're a good waitress , Because I'm going to get a haircut- too .
Speaker 1I always give her a tip yeah , yeah , haircut ends up it's a $30 haircut . It costs you $50 .
Speaker 2Well , I don't tip that well .
Speaker 1Oh , you don't .
Speaker 2Okay , me either .
Speaker 1There's a whole other episode too , and I have another one on my fast five . It's just slipping my mind . What the heck was it ? I just had it . Oh oh , radio stations , good old fashioned AM FM radio stations , you know , like the one I think we have one down here , yet Instead of Sirius XM .
Speaker 2Well , I have to say I think once you go to Sirius you can't go back .
Speaker 1Right .
Speaker 2Because I tried . And you listen to the radio and not only are there ads , ads , ads , ads , which is fine , but then it's the same ad . I listen to three songs , then it's the same ad , same ad , same ad .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2And I don't like that .
Speaker 1I got you .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , siriusxm does , if I want to listen to talk , then I just listen to talk .
Speaker 1Right . But it's kind of like there's no choice . It's SiriusXM .
Speaker 2Yeah , there was . I mean there's Amazon Music but then you have to .
Speaker 1Yeah , xm Radio and Sirius were different .
Speaker 2But they combined , didn't they ?
Speaker 1Yeah , and now they're a big conglomerate . Gosh . Yeah , you have .
Speaker 2Amazon Music . You have Spotify . You have Amazon Music , you have Spotify , you have . What's the other one , Pandora ?
Speaker 1Oh , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2You know you have all of those .
Speaker 1But you've got to do the sync with your car .
Speaker 2You still get ads on those Right .
Speaker 1Sirius XM . Why can't I buy a car with or maybe you can I shouldn't say that Like with all those things in it , all those apps ? I guess because they don't have partnerships with certain car makers .
Speaker 2Yeah , I think mine just comes with .
Speaker 1Sirius .
Speaker 2In fact I got it free . I was paying for it and I got it free . So I called them and they said , oh well , we'll just put it on free for six months and then at the end of six months we'll just mark down that you already paid . And it keeps going and I think for you know , it's $6.99 a month .
Speaker 2Serious , that's cheap , that is a good deal to not listen to ads , and I also have an app on my phone , so at home I just pop on whatever and there is a shit ton to listen to yeah . Man , why are they sponsoring us ? Look at them , listen to me kissing their ass Nope .
Speaker 1I got one more shot at a sponsorship ready .
Speaker 2Okay .
Speaker 1Well , maybe two . So I was getting my teeth cleaned at Thunder Bay Family Dentistry .
Speaker 2That's where I go , Dr Jack Beal .
Speaker 1Yes , I really enjoy going to the dentist there .
Speaker 2Yeah , but don't go . Okay , I went Tuesday . Tuesday is Wednesday .
Speaker 1Wednesday is a golf day , isn't it ? Maybe , but he listens to SiriusXM .
Speaker 2He listens to the 80s station . Well , I went there and I'm like what the hell you got country going . She said country Tuesdays .
Speaker 1I'm like well , don't make my appointment for Tuesday anymore .
Speaker 2No offense to country music . Some of it I love , but I would rather I know going in there Jack Beal loves the 80s rock band .
Speaker 1Yeah , I love it .
Speaker 2The hair bands , he said so I go in
Culinary Recommendations and Gratitude
Speaker 2there .
Speaker 1Ironically , and we're talking about Julian being down at School of Midland and he recommends I mean , you've been here because you've traveled the world and Midland , I guess , is a big popular destination for world travelers such as yourself but he said to go to the Molasses downtown Midland . First of all , downtown Midland kicks ass . It's cute and the Molasses is a barbecue joint and it was fan-freaking-tastic .
Speaker 2That sounds good .
Speaker 1So thank you , Jack , For the recommendation . Yes , Ballyhoo .
Speaker 2It's kind of funny that a dentist would give you a recommendation of molasses .
Speaker 1Yeah , I didn't taste any molasses .
Speaker 2I guess they did have a molasses barbecue sauce .
Speaker 1Anyway , but if you go you don't have to get the two or three meat , just get the one single meat . Maybe .
Speaker 2Did you overdo it ? Oh , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1Anyhow .
Speaker 2Okay , Alright . Well , again , email us , text us or whatever .
Speaker 1Yeah , send a pigeon . Hand signals , smoke signals .
Speaker 2Yeah , and we're up for any ideas .
Speaker 1Okay At all . Well , thanks . Appreciate everybody who does listen and spread the word .
Speaker 2Yes , thank you , thanks , bye , bye .
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