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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick - S2, Ep 18., Halloween
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What’s the true essence of Halloween, you ask? Kate and KJ unravel its historical roots, from age-old traditions like "souling" to today’s thrill of trick-or-treating. Conversation meanders through the cobwebbed corridors of Halloween film classics to candy favorites. Join us for another episode of Hero or Dick1
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Halloween, Candy, and Therapy
Speaker 2hello hey , everybody happy halloween happy halloween . This is our third or fourth take to get it started , because I don't know what I'm doing and richie took the day off halloween .
Speaker 1It's halloween today it's halloween .
Speaker 2We were talking about our therapy session that we have . We have usually a 20-minute therapy session together . Before we , before we start the real show yeah , and there's no reason to have a therapy session because we are very fortunate and have good lives .
Speaker 1but it's funny how we I think that's what we determined at the end of the therapy session .
Speaker 2Yes , we cured ourselves , uh-huh .
Speaker 1We said it out loud Everything's fine .
Speaker 2So if anybody wants a therapy session , you can stop by Horse Feather Studio . Yeah , every two weeks , probably on a Thursday around .
Speaker 1Tuesday or Thursday , whatever , I don't know . We're not on a regular schedule anymore . We will be .
Speaker 2Anyhow .
Speaker 1It's Halloween .
Speaker 2Halloween what's ?
Speaker 1your favorite part of Halloween .
Speaker 2Oh my God , Put me on . I don't know . It's changed over the years . It used to be mix a big stiff drink and watch scary movies all day . Then it changed to no , it was elementary school . Oh , I was drinking in elementary school . Oh yeah , I mean dressing up , going out . That usually made me anxious as a kid .
Speaker 1Trick or treat is different now . Now it's trunk or treat because we don't want kids going to strangers' house .
Speaker 2Sure no nuts . Keep the nuts out of your kid's mouth .
Speaker 1No apples .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1No , oh , I see , because of a peanut allergy .
Speaker 2We had a couple of those last year . I said that wrong .
Speaker 1Peanut allergies . Anyway , the nuts thing , that's not what I meant , so you had people come to your door and you wanted to give them candy and they're like oh my God , stop . Is there any nuts in that ?
Speaker 2There was some like that , and there was also people that came with little babies that probably couldn't even eat candy .
Speaker 1And the lady . We gave them candy and you know they're going to eat it .
Speaker 2Yeah , and the lady said , oh , she doesn't like that type , and she reaches in and picks what she wants . And then we had grabbers like grabbing . So this year we're putting the candy cauldron . It's an actual witch's cauldron . Oh , nice , metal and iron , and we keep it behind us as they come up . Oh , and if they don't like it they can go fuck themselves . Sorry .
Speaker 1Ma , the therapy's not working . It's really gotten out of hand , I think .
Speaker 2What about you ? What do you like ?
Speaker 1I like candy .
Speaker 2Yeah , sure . What's your favorite go-to ?
Speaker 1I love an M&M .
Speaker 2Just a classic M&M .
Speaker 1Peanut M&M acceptable as well , but just M&Ms .
Speaker 2Hmm , do you like caramel ? No , caramel .
Speaker 1I mean in certain circumstances .
Speaker 2No .
Speaker 1M&Ms .
Speaker 2Oh the caramel M&Ms .
Speaker 1No , oh really no . No , fuck with the M&M , it's Go with it . I mean , I try all the espresso and the mint and the whatever .
Speaker 2The mint are okay . Yeah , they're all right , but just leave it chocolate .
Speaker 1I have some in my car right now , do you want ?
Speaker 2some . I love M&M's . I had a problem for a while , but then we weren't going to hand out candy this year . But my daughter insisted that we should because her friends are going to stop by to get candy . I think she should sit there and hand it out , but it is fun seeing most of the families come to the door with their kids .
Speaker 1Do you get dressed up to hand it out ?
Speaker 2No . Two years ago I dressed as a werewolf and danced around upstairs and threatened people . That was fun . I'd like to do that again this year .
Speaker 1Were they scared , did it work .
Speaker 2I mean , some were spooked but most laughed and they waved and they howled at me . That's fun , but then I leave my wife sitting there by herself handing out candy , which she probably actually likes better . Anyhow , what do you want to talk about ? Hey , we're speaking of candy . Yeah , let's talk .
Speaker 1Tell me what you think is the number one candy .
Speaker 2For Halloween .
Speaker 1For Halloween or for USA .
Speaker 2Reese's Peanut Butter Cups . You are correct , sir , they have the best commercials too .
Speaker 1They do , they do . Like the Halloween one with the damn firebysand , I do love a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup . Oh yeah , yeah , I mean what ?
Speaker 2about the Take Five .
Speaker 1They're okay .
Speaker 2I got some of those to hand out . They're not very up candy . No , oh , the boonie's there .
Speaker 1No , no , candy .
Speaker 2Did you decorate for Halloween ?
Speaker 1No , Fucking A Nothing . I put a few pumpkins out . Pumpkins are timeless .
Speaker 2Oh , that's something .
Speaker 1So you can put them out after Labor Day , say , and you can leave them out until after Thanksgiving .
Speaker 2Yeah , until they rot . So .
Speaker 1I love a pumpkin .
Speaker 2No carving .
Speaker 1No , I don't usually carve anymore . When did you stop when the kids yeah , when the kids didn't want to do it anymore .
Speaker 2Jovi and I carved last night .
Speaker 1It's kind of messy , you know . You got to get that schloppy stuff out of there and then you rinse it . You feel obligated to bake the pumpkin seeds . You didn't .
Speaker 2No , we did . Brooke doesn't carve . She quit that . She watches us carve and drink some wine , but then she gets all the seeds and gets them going . That's her role . It's teamwork .
Speaker 1It's teamwork .
Speaker 2What is the favorite cocktail of Halloween ?
Speaker 1Well , I like a hot cider .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , that's a good one , and she put anything or nothing in it .
Speaker 1Yeah , hot cider and a cinnamon donut , that's fall right there .
Speaker 2Have you been to Canabi's yet ?
Speaker 1I have not . Did you go to Canabi's ? Yeah , it's a popular place .
Speaker 2It's great .
Speaker 1You'd have to Google it , but it was like one of the top three places to go in Michigan . We're going to say the nation , okay , the nation of .
Speaker 2Michigan . But have you been there since they had the wood-fired pizzas ?
Speaker 1and all that shit . Yeah , I have been there , not last year , year before .
Speaker 2And they just started doing that . Those donuts , they're not normal .
Speaker 1No , they have a great gift shop .
Speaker 2It's hard not to eat a dozen , oh , by yourself . Well , tis the season .
Speaker 1Get away , you can .
Speaker 2All right , I'll let you leave this . You know what ?
Speaker 1the worst candy is the most unpopular .
Speaker 2Cow tails .
Speaker 1What's a cow tail ? A candy corn .
Speaker 2No , it's like that long , is it candy corn ? No , it's not candy corn . I know what a cow tail is it's like that long ? Nasty thing .
Speaker 1It's a triangle and then it's orange .
Speaker 2I know what candy corn is .
Speaker 1Yeah , they're horrible .
Speaker 2You've said that on other podcasts .
Speaker 1I mean this one . I'm going to say it until the day I die .
Speaker 2You don't like it , I don't mind it .
Speaker 1Some people mix them with peanuts . You know , make a mixture and .
Speaker 2What about the pumpkin ? That's like the same thing .
Speaker 1Yeah , it tastes the same , it's the same thing .
Speaker 2So is that the most unpopular . It is the most unpopular and it's also the oldest candy , and by oldest I mean it's been in the dish longest you can get it so much for so cheap , it's not worth it .
Speaker 1It tastes that way too . Yeah , yeah , I say no , the most unhealthy candy bars .
Speaker 2Hold on a second .
Speaker 1Well , right there , it has butter in the name , butterfinger yeah .
Speaker 2I thought butter was healthy for you . It comes from milk , doesn't it ?
Speaker 1And so does chocolate . It does I mean it sounds healthy . Butterfinger it's not real butter , no , it doesn chocolate . It does I mean it sounds healthy Butterfinger .
Speaker 2It's not real butter ?
Speaker 1No , it doesn't . It's not real finger either , baby Ruth .
Speaker 2Oh , I love those .
Speaker 1That's because they're unhealthy Shit . And the other one is Three Musketeers .
Speaker 2Oh my God , those are all great . Do you like the 100, ? What's it called the 100,000 grain ?
Speaker 110,000 ? Yeah , there's a number in front of it .
Speaker 2It was 10,000 and they upped it to 100,000 .
Speaker 1It's a little too nougaty , nougaty , there's no nougat , is there Caramel-y ?
Speaker 2Isn't it rice crispy ? Yeah , like rice crispy .
Speaker 1I like rice crispies . You know what's the lowest in sugar and fat and calories .
Speaker 2Twizzler .
Speaker 1Uh close Smarties .
Speaker 2The lowest in sugar .
Speaker 1That's what Google says . I guess that they're tiny . Yes , that was all sugar .
Speaker 2Because you get one , smarties are okay .
Speaker 1You know you get different flavors of those now . Yes , you can . I like the chewy ones too . How ?
Speaker 2do you ?
Speaker 1feel about a caramel apple . I like the caramel part , I like the first bite of it and then I can't even bite them because I just feel like all my teeth are gonna fall out , but I can cut them like a like a pie .
Speaker 2At one point , though , you like them right um do you like it ? When they have the ? Um , there comes nuts again . The toffee , the nuts on them toffee .
Speaker 1There's like they roll them in toffee too .
Speaker 2Oh , okay , delish , I'll trust you . You ever bob for apples .
Speaker 1I was . That was my next thing . Do you know where that originated ? Luthuania I shouldn't say where why it originated punished children um no , the single girls did it , and they would bob for apples and whoever got an apple first was the next to get married , everything kind of you know that's all devised by men , yeah . I think that was the gist of every game .
Speaker 2Mm-hmm .
Speaker 1Yeah , bob , for apples .
Speaker 2So Get married .
Speaker 1You get a husband Throw a horseshoe . You get a husband .
Speaker 2Play a game of lawn charts .
Speaker 1You die .
Speaker 2Get a dead husband Okay .
Speaker 1So did you carve a pumpkin ?
Speaker 2Yeah , jovi , and I did last night .
Speaker 1Did you carve a turnip ? Come on , because that's how it started .
Speaker 2Oh , did it ? No , we didn't have any turnips .
Speaker 1The Irish were carving faces into turnips and beets to ward off evil spirits . Because , that's going to do it .
Speaker 2The Irish and the Scottish immigrants . They , in the 19th century , brought over the idea of celebrating with bonfires , costumes and parties .
Speaker 1Mm-hmm and carving pumpkins .
Speaker 2And carving pumpkins Turnips .
Speaker 1When they came to the US pumpkins , I think were easier .
Speaker 2So they switched .
Speaker 1And more available .
Speaker 2I think it's easier to carve a pumpkin than a turnip .
Speaker 1I would think so . It'd be hard to bake those turnip seeds .
Speaker 2You ever have turnip pie .
Speaker 1No .
Speaker 2I don't think it's a thing .
Speaker 1And so now there's whole TV shows devoted to carving the pumpkins . There are , hey , you know .
Speaker 2Tom Nardone , I do not .
Speaker 1Tom Nardone .
Speaker 2He's the guy that carves pumpkins . He'll be on probably today . He's been on today's show and all those shows .
Speaker 1Oh , he does the . Yeah , I do know of him .
Speaker 2I met him Really and we're friends on Facebook , so you're close . I interviewed for a job with him years ago . He used to own a sex toy shop .
Speaker 1And that's the job you interviewed for .
Speaker 2Writing copy for them . I'm not even kidding .
Speaker 1That would be fascinating , really .
Speaker 2It was , but I didn't get the job . Do you at least carve your face ?
Speaker 1in a pumpkin .
Speaker 2Or a sex toy .
Speaker 1Oh God , Now he's making all kinds of stuff . Maybe you need to get a hold of him again .
Speaker 2No , I think we're good . Okay , he also was a guy big in Detroit before I'm getting off topic , as usual , but he had a lawnmower gang and they all bought lawnmowers and souped them up .
Speaker 1And they'd go around and mow people's lawns in the Detroit area for free to keep the light away and things like that .
Speaker 2Oh , I do know it's a pretty cool guy yeah .
Speaker 1Anyway .
Speaker 2So , tom , thanks for listening . He's not listening .
Speaker 1No , he's not Okay . What do you think is the most popular costume this year ?
Speaker 2Do I have to say it ?
Speaker 1No this year . Do I have to say it ?
Speaker 2No , I mean what do you think it is ? It's going to be like a political thing .
Speaker 1No , let's say no politicals . Okay , good , then I'll say Really it wasn't on the list .
Speaker 2A clown .
Speaker 1Who wants to be a fucking clown ?
Speaker 2It's classic , it's timeless .
Speaker 1No Beetlejuice .
Speaker 2Again , they make another Beetlejuice .
Speaker 1Again they make another Beetlejuice Bluey .
Speaker 2Did you ever watch that cartoon ? Oh , is that that dog ? It is , it's so cute .
Speaker 1It's hilarious Disney princesses .
Speaker 2Taylor Swift probably .
Speaker 1Nope , she didn't make the list . How do you beat her ? Nobody can beat her .
Speaker 2Red shoes .
Speaker 1And a superhero like Spider-Man , superman , batman .
Speaker 2Superman , wolverine Is he a superhero ? He's kind of a menace , isn't he ?
Speaker 1I don't know . I don't know Wolverine very well , but those are the costumes that are the most popular this year . Wearing a costume , they think started when people darkened their faces with ashes , which we know now is wrong , and then that morphed into wearing masks and then that morphed into slutty nurses . Gotta appreciate a nurse costume or a maid a French maid .
Speaker 2Did you know ? Speaking of costumes , a little segue pet costumes . They $500 million a year spent on pet costumes .
Speaker 1Oh , I believe it , yeah .
Speaker 2That's insane . There's like people who need food that were buying pet costumes I shouldn't say they have to buy dog treats like insane but no costumes .
Halloween Culture and Traditions
Speaker 2And did you mention that , uh , 600 million pounds of candy are sold during Halloween ?
Speaker 1No , but that's what shipped on a candy . Yeah , it is .
Speaker 2Uh 3 billion on sweets .
Speaker 1Wow , and do you know ? Who hates Halloween the most Teachers . They do the next day yeah .
Speaker 2That's a no listen . They had a half Teachers . They do the next day . Yeah , now , listen Now listen , they had a half day yesterday because of parent-teacher conferences . Good , job , joby by the way , and today they have off , but they go back tomorrow .
Speaker 1So after the kids have spent all day getting excited about Halloween jacked up , so they have Halloween no At school . No school today . None , and then tomorrow they go back all jacked up and hungover .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Sugar buzz gone .
Speaker 2That's insane . Poor planning Next .
Speaker 1Next oh , we just forgot to mention at the beginning that All Hallows' Eve is how Halloween started .
Speaker 2Yeah , but what was it before that ? I always ask that .
Speaker 1What do you mean ? It wasn't there , I know .
Speaker 2Well , we say it wasn't . But did it just come out of nowhere ?
Speaker 1It was marking the end of the harvest season . There are different theories on how it started , but what I read in the most sense is marking the end of the harvest season , because it's that time of year Sure . And you know , a long time ago , people always wanted to communicate with dead people , and so that Halloween was the day that people could communicate with their loved ones that passed out . How do you feel about that ?
Speaker 2I think it's awesome and trick-or-treating actually used to be called souling .
Speaker 1So you'd go looking for a soul ?
Speaker 2No , Do you have your soul ? Poor children would go door-to-door and offer prayers for the dead in exchange for soul cakes .
Speaker 1It's a soul cake .
Speaker 2I don't know I think I'd eat it . A soul cake . I bet you they give you a lot of power .
Speaker 1Is it an actual soul ? I don't know .
Speaker 2So anyway .
Speaker 1Yeah , when you think about it , trick-or-treating is just insane . It's everything you tell your kids not to do all year long . Here you go , dress crazy like a slutty nurse and go door to door asking for candy .
Speaker 2Yeah , and there was a fella when we lived downstate that dressed as Santa and would sit on the porch and have the children sit on his lap for candy that's creepy , I'm sure it was perfectly legit .
Speaker 1Oh , I'm sure .
Speaker 2But there's good things about it , come on . It's nice to see people getting out , isn't it ?
Speaker 1Today , I don't know , trick or treating . Today I ran into Dollar Tree and there were two girls working , one was thing , one and one was thing two .
Speaker 2Oh , that's cool .
Speaker 1So that was very clever . I gave them credit for that .
Speaker 2I think some people take trouble for saying this . But schools you can't do .
Speaker 1You can't do yeah , Because you piss people off . Although Jenna today dressed up , she looked very cute . She was the kitty cat Marie from Aristocats .
Speaker 2Oh nice .
Speaker 1And what they did at their school was here's a theme and it's never slutty , nurses , because it's an elementary school it was Disney which is a huge range and everybody can pull that off , so that's what she was .
Speaker 2That's safe .
Speaker 1And still fun . What's your favorite Halloween movie ?
Speaker 2Halloween .
Speaker 1Is it ?
Speaker 2I like that , mike Myers .
Speaker 1It was scary . I remember seeing it when it first came out and I was young and it was terrifying Because it was the first movie like that .
Speaker 2I tried telling my boy to watch it for years . I probably shouldn't have Because I don't know . It's artistic is the wrong word , but I love the long scenes and the pacing and the building of it all . And movies . Now they depend too much on flashing things Blood and gore and makeup . Boom boom , boom , boom boom Instead of like thought and storyline .
Speaker 1Remember the Blair Witch Project .
Speaker 2I actually liked that movie . I did too . It was interesting , I think your delivery's here .
Speaker 1There was never nothing happened though .
Speaker 2But it was great On screen , but it was scary . Scary as shit at the end when the guy probably I still think about it when he's standing in the corner facing that wall , oh God .
Speaker 1I get the chills thinking about it . Nothing happens , though , in that whole movie . I do love Beetlejuice , and I love Beetlejuice , beetlejuice .
Speaker 2That's a good one . Is that really a Halloween movie ?
Speaker 1I don't know . It was listed on it ? I don't think so . Why wouldn't they want ?
Speaker 2to marry Beetlejuice . I want to marry Beetlejuice . They're stupid . Hocus Pocus . I watched it the other night . A muck , a muck , a muck , what . That's what she says right On Hocus Pocus Sarah Jessica Parker .
Speaker 1She's the sluggish of the witches . I don't know . I'm not really into the Hocus Pocus .
Speaker 2I made my wife watch it .
Speaker 1Hollow .
Speaker 2Yes , yes , with what's his face , johnny Depp and Christina Ricci .
Speaker 1That was good , that was very well done .
Speaker 2Christina Ricci yes , it's also been Wednesday .
Speaker 1Yes , she has a scary lineup . She's done a lot .
Speaker 2Nightmare Before Christmas . It's kind of a Christmas movie , but it's a Halloween movie , yeah .
Speaker 1You don't like it , do you ? It's not my favorite , tim Burton .
Speaker 2What is your favorite ? Tim Burton .
Speaker 1Probably Beetlejuice .
Speaker 2What about Scissorhands ? I love Scissorhands .
Speaker 1Is that a Halloween ? That's not a Halloween movie .
Speaker 2But you forgot one , what ? That actually is probably one of my favorites .
Speaker 1And what is that ?
Speaker 2The little boy sitting in the pumpkin patch waiting .
Speaker 1Oh , tv shows . Yeah , that's the best one , that is the best .
Speaker 2Casper's on my list , but I don't know why I don't want Casper .
Speaker 1I mean , he was all right in the comic book , but I didn't like the movies . How about Young Frankenstein ?
Speaker 2That's awesome , gene Wilder .
Speaker 1That's awesome . Gene Wilder , that's a good one . Rip I think Alpena Civic Theater is doing it right now . What ? Yes , true . What am I doing ? I don't know if it's playing soon , but they're doing it . If it's not running now , it will be running soon . You ever get a pass there ? Season pass no . Okay , I was going to ask for your answer . I've done there , but I don't have a season pass . How about music ?
Speaker 1You know on the way here . Oh , that's a good one . I didn't even have that one on my list , what ? But on the way here I was listening to Alice Cooper and I bet , because he has Welcome to my Nightmare . Be , my Frankenstein , some other ones , I bet his residual check in November is like awesome .
Speaker 2Is that what it's called the residual Royalty , or royalty whatever you ?
Speaker 1know the money that he gets every time it plays .
Speaker 2I bet November he gets a big ass check Because all Halloween they're playing those songs that he gets every time it plays . I bet in November he gets a big ass check .
Speaker 1He's just out on the golf course , because all of Halloween they're playing those songs .
Speaker 2You know , he's a great golfer and he's like play him , play him .
Speaker 1Oh , he is a fabulous golfer and if you've never read his book , you should . What book ? His book that he has .
Speaker 2What's it about ?
Speaker 1It's about life golf , every other Life golf , life golf . That's pretty cool and he has met a lot of famous people Hung out with . Dolly what .
Speaker 2He did what .
Speaker 1Hung out with Dolly Salvador .
Speaker 2Oh , I thought you meant Parton .
Speaker 1Oh , he might have hung out with Dolly .
Speaker 2He probably has .
Speaker 1Probably .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's a good point . He probably is cleaning up .
Speaker 1November . Like I said , if you are asking him for money , November would be a good time .
Speaker 2He's probably got enough for Christmas presents coming December .
Speaker 1That's what I was thinking he gets a nice holiday . Check His family all gets good presents . I've got to be happy with that .
Speaker 2What about the Monster Mash ?
Speaker 1So I made a list of one-hit wonders and that was on there the Monster Mash . So I made a list of one-hit wonders , and that was on there . The .
Speaker 2Monster Mash Is uh , somebody's watching me . Yes , what else ? Privacy , yep .
Speaker 1I would help . No , but good one .
Speaker 2That's all I have .
Speaker 1Oh .
Speaker 2I'll shut up now . How about ?
Speaker 1Don't Fear the Reapers oh man , that's a great Mark Howbell .
Speaker 2Yes , oh , yeah .
Speaker 1These were my fast five too , by the way .
Speaker 2Oh sorry .
Speaker 1That's all right . How about Werewolves of London ?
Speaker 2Made sure it played last night during pumpkin time . I love that one Dude . It's so funny , it's hilarious . A werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hand Isn't that part of it ?
Speaker 1Well , it happened .
Speaker 2It was based on a true story Shit hey have you been to the new place ? No , there you go . No .
Speaker 1Have you .
Speaker 2No , but I've heard good things about it .
Speaker 1Well , I tried to go , but they have kind of wonky hours , what you ? Can't do that and I was looking online and they weren't really listed , but they had just opened , so I will revisit that .
Speaker 2Sorry , maybe they know at that . Sorry , maybe they know . And the new breakfast place , did you try that ? The cafe ?
Speaker 1Is it called something after a beach here ? What's it called ?
Speaker 2Maybe Is this the one over where Mango's Express used to be .
Speaker 1Yeah , what's the name of the beach ?
Speaker 2Starlight Cafe .
Speaker 1Yes , see Starlight Beach . That's pretty good , do you like it ? Oh , I didn't go yet .
Speaker 2What the fuck ? Okay , sorry .
Speaker 1Did you go ? It's good , yeah , oh , okay .
Speaker 2It takes a little while to get your stuff , but when you get it it's good .
Speaker 1Anytime it's newish . You know you got to get in a group Fresh stuff and time it's caught on fire .
Speaker 2Yeah , no kidding .
Speaker 1Oh my god , I love the Coney .
Speaker 2The best breakfast . Well , Connie's is good too .
Speaker 1Oh , Connie's is good . I like to get the lunch from the Coney too . I'm hungry
Halloween and Holiday Traditions
Speaker 1now .
Speaker 2Okay , wait , okay , I got one more song . What is it ?
Speaker 1Wonder , frankenstein by Edgar Winner .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , yeah , Nice , you have all these too . Probably don't you .
Speaker 1My phone . What do you mean ? Hey , do you still have records ? We do have some albums A-tracks no A-tracks left . Those were almost before my time . Cassettes I actually have some , because I have a small boombox .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1And it has a CD player and a cassette player .
Speaker 2That's handy . Some things are only on a .
Speaker 1CD player and a cassette player . That's handy . Some things are only on a CD or a cassette , Like our holiday music pop in that Dean Martin CD .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , yes , please . The Bing Crosby one's pretty good too . We'll have a Christmas episode , I bet .
Speaker 1We have .
Speaker 2And a Thanksgiving one .
Speaker 1We have .
Speaker 2What else ? Yeah , we probably . Well , we have to repeat some of them .
Speaker 1So what do you think about Halloween ? How do you rate it ? Is it a hero or a dick .
Speaker 2Oh my God , it's a hero .
Speaker 1I say dick .
Speaker 2Oh Lord why ?
Speaker 1I think it , like many holidays , is over , over , over commercialized and it's morphed into this big . I think that Halloween is like creeping up on Christmas for the biggest , the most money spent per holiday , the stuff people put on their yards and you know , is it Santa Claus Close ?
Speaker 2Oh , kate's always getting visitors stopping by here waving through the window .
Speaker 1Yeah , they're giving me the finger because I say Halloween , you're kind of a dick . I like your candy , I like some of your movies .
Speaker 2It's been bastardized Because I know what you're saying Because I like decorating a little bit in the house . I like Charlie Brown , I like your .
Speaker 1Charlie Brown thing in your yard , that's the best .
Speaker 2Kudos to Rita Stevens .
Speaker 1Good job Rita .
Speaker 2Ripping off Charles Schultz's artwork . She did a good job . It looks really cool .
Speaker 1It's her interpretation of it it looks so cute . People have been stopping by and take pictures , yeah , so that's cool . Well , and because , again , that one is cute , it's all homemade , it's pretty big too . I mean , somebody put some effort into it . They didn't just go to Walmart and buy the big blow-up thing .
Speaker 2I don't like blow-ups very much .
Speaker 1Here's the best blow-up story ever . My co-worker , Brian Hammond hey , Brian .
Speaker 2Hello Brian .
Speaker 1He had a Santa one oh . What did you do to it ? He had the snowblower out . Oh , and he snowblowed it . There was Santa , all ripped , oh man .
Speaker 2I love that . I don't know , yeah , those things .
Speaker 1That had to be a little satisfying , yeah .
Speaker 2There are a couple .
Speaker 1I like the one on this building over here on the Crow Memorial Building .
Speaker 2Oh yeah .
Speaker 1The flower shop .
Speaker 2Lasting .
Speaker 1Expressions . I don't think it's called that anymore , but anyway it's on that building . They have a big blow-up up there and that looks really cool yeah .
Speaker 2I like that stuff , but I really All the people walking around clogging up the sidewalk .
Speaker 1Yeah , they're going to be there tonight . I know I've got to stay positive .
Speaker 2You're right in the thick of it . Yeah , we get a lot of them . How ?
Speaker 1many trick-or-treaters do you get ?
Speaker 2Last year was 350, . I think something like that yeah , wow , 330 , 350 .
Speaker 1That's a lot , that's a lot Do you give ? Them one piece of candy . Yeah , oh you do full-size candy buyers . Mm-hmm , wow , are you a gazillionaire . No , just really like candy , so do you buy it . Like tomorrow you'll go and buy it for next year .
Speaker 2No , we look out for sales and stuff and then accumulate like a few weeks before .
Speaker 1I'm going to come trick-or-treating now . What kind do you have ? Do you have a variety ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I got Charleston Chews . Oh my God , I like the old stuff they're horrible . Wait , wait , heath Bars .
Speaker 1Okay , good .
Speaker 2Hershey Bars yeah , take Fives , hold on a second . Oh , I did get Sour Patch Kids . Yeah , chips , ahoy Cookies , oh , Like the bigger bags . The little package of them yeah . I think I got some $100,000 , whatever they call those grand .
Speaker 1And you never have any left over either , do you ?
Speaker 2I might . You stashed some , didn't you ? I get in trouble for eating them before Halloween . I know Brooke caught me . She hid the .
Speaker 1Charleston shoes and the Heath bars . That's really that's what you're going to eat before Halloween the Charleston shoes .
Speaker 2I really like those . You don't like them oh no With a big glass of milk .
Speaker 1No , but Heath bar is good .
Speaker 2All right . Well , I don't know what to tell you . I think Halloween's a hero .
Speaker 1Okay , I don't have Fast Five . I mean , we used my Fast Five , so I don't have any either . All right , well , I mean . The music's a hero . Let's say yeah , definitely All the Fast Fives that we went through and I mean that's a lot of fun . Another part the movies are fun too . I've been trying not to watch super scary things because I don't do that anymore .
Speaker 2I .
Speaker 1I don't do that anymore . I don't know , I'm just not into it anymore . But Halloween was fucking scary when it came out . It still is .
Speaker 2H2O was pretty good too , the reboot . I mean , there's been 100,000 of those , but 20 years later that was good .
Speaker 1Sometimes the scariest movie is not a scare movie , right , you know , like Open Water or Suspense , suspense .
Speaker 2Yes , right , you know , like open water um suspense you know suspense , yes , um my uh one more thing before we depart I see you got your driver pulled up for you , the um . I really enjoy tv episodes , the halloween themed tv episodes , you know , and there's some even you can remember from when you're a kid like oh yeah , happy days ones , or a modern family has some good ones . Um , you ever see that show and there's some even you can remember from when you were a kid .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , Happy Days ones . Modern Family has some good ones . You ever see that show Ghosts ? I have not , oh my .
Speaker 2God , the Halloween episode from last year is hilarious , but I like those , like any of them .
Speaker 1And some people are really , really into Halloween , and good for you , yeah , it's just not for me .
Thanksgiving vs. Halloween Traditions
Speaker 1I prefer Thanksgiving . I really enjoy Thanksgiving Four-day weekend .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Eat on Thursday Eat everything you can . Friday , take a little break . Yeah , Saturday just eat it all again .
Speaker 2Then when do you put the tree up ?
Speaker 1Just depends . We have a fake one now , so we can put it up anytime .
Speaker 2Do you have it up for Thanksgiving or no ? No , okay , no .
Speaker 1No , we still got pumpkins .
Speaker 2Yeah , got to ride those out .
Speaker 1Yeah , I love a pumpkin , all right .
Speaker 2All right .
Speaker 1Okay , thanks for listening to our Halloween episode .
Speaker 2Yeah , thank you , everybody have a good one .
Speaker 1Bye , bye .
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