Hero or Dick
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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick - S2, Ep. 19 - The Simpsons
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Curious about how a yellow family from Springfield transformed the landscape of animated comedy forever? Join us for a nostalgic trip through The Simpsons' storied history, exploring its remarkable transition from The Tracy Ullman Show to becoming one of the most influential series in television history.
Welcome to another episode of Hero or Dick!
~ Kate & KJ
Discussion on the Simpsons Legacy
Speaker 1Hello .
Speaker 2Hi , greetings and salutations . Welcome to another episode , season two , episode 19 on .
Speaker 1November 19th , 2024 .
Speaker 2And we're broadcasting from 119 West Washington .
Speaker 1Avenue .
Speaker 2Horse Feather Studio .
Speaker 1Here we're a dick . This is KJ 19 is not a dick . Today , apparently , it's a girl . Everything's 19 , whether you want it to be or not .
Speaker 2Oh , we should have started at 119 , but we're at 117 pm .
Speaker 1Let's pretend we did .
Speaker 2On my lunch break . Here we go .
Speaker 1Okay , all right , and our topic today is Donuts . Simpsons .
Speaker 2Homer likes donuts .
Speaker 1Who doesn't like donuts ? Remember the one where Homer this is going to happen a lot . Remember the one where Homer's head was a donut .
Speaker 2No .
Speaker 1He couldn't stop eating himself .
Speaker 2Homer's just like .
Speaker 1Homer , stop eating yourself . And he's like but Marge , I'm so sweet and tasty , you know you're not going to like this .
Speaker 2I really haven't watched much Simpsons . You know who has . I should have had her on the show , brooke .
Speaker 1Oh , Brooke , where are you ? I need you ?
Speaker 2Yeah , she's working , and every year she gets a Simpsons calendar .
Speaker 1Oh does she ? Yeah , I have to say at first I kind of balked at the Simpsons when they came out . They were actually up against the Cosby Show , which was hugely popular then , and it was before we knew that Bill Cosby was a rapist .
Speaker 2Oh , he was .
Speaker 1Yeah , I didn't know that . I mean , I think he was at that time . We just didn't know .
Speaker 2I thought he just liked giving drinks to women .
Speaker 1Well , yeah , laced with breakfast , oh yeah . So anyway , he was still , you know , he was still just a comedian who was funny and had this cute family on NBC . And then the Simpsons came up against him and I remember there was a big debate which family do you choose ? I was like , I don't know , I kind of like the Cosby kids , the sweaters . Yeah , the sweaters alone , they're great .
Speaker 2Malcolm Jamal Warner . Yes , felicia Rashad . Now we're getting on the Cosbys and stuff .
Speaker 1Lisa Bonet Yep , who always has a hot husband .
Speaker 2And then what about ?
Speaker 1Raven .
Speaker 2Tempest Bledsoe .
Speaker 1Yeah , I don't know .
Speaker 2Yeah , that was the girl , the girl , and then Rudy was .
Speaker 1Raven , I don't know Raven , simone , one of them is Raven . Yeah , you're right ? Well , look at that , yeah , so apparently you know a lot about the Cosby show . You were watching the Cosby show when everybody else was watching the Simpsons . That's how it went for me , and at first I was like I don't know about the Simpsons . But once you start watching them you know they have something for everybody and they are not afraid to make fun of everything , and themselves too .
Speaker 2Kind of like a South Park , but not as raunchy yeah , South Park is . Disturbing .
Speaker 1They have their own qualities and I know people really love them too . They're good , but they probably wouldn't be around if it wasn't for the Simpsons Right , I agree . Oh yeah , totally that's what I mean . A lot of cartoons actually probably wouldn't be around if it wasn't for the Simpsons .
Speaker 2Right , I agree , oh yeah , totally .
Speaker 1That's what I mean . A lot of cartoons actually probably wouldn't be around , like I think that South Park probably learned Bob's Burgers yeah , it's not the same , anything like that it's not the same . Yeah , I think the Simpsons were the beginning of it . When was their first show ? It was aired on oh my God , no , that's not right their first episode of 1119 , but that's not right . It aired in February of 92 . Okay , but they were first on the Tracy Allman show before that .
Speaker 2In 87 .
Speaker 1They were short and they're very crudely drawn , but that's what they evolved into . So they've been around since 92 . That's 30-plus years . Yeah , that's a long time . It is a long time .
Speaker 2It's still going right . Yeah , it is .
Speaker 1The longest-running primetime animated comedy , which that's pretty damn specific . I think they're one of the longest-running comedy shows .
Speaker 2It's good to do that , because the actors don't age or die .
Speaker 1They don't . They don't . So you don't have to worry about that . Conan O'Brien was a writer on that show he was , there was a whole bunch of writers who ? Well , let's see Conan Matt Groening . So he's the creator and the billionaire .
Speaker 2Homer's what . I think in his hair the M and the G show up somewhere and he must be just a billionaire , just some merchandise alone yeah true , and they're big everywhere .
Speaker 1They're not just big here . When we were in the UK , there's Simpsons stuff everywhere , everywhere .
Speaker 2Bigger than Mickey Mouse . Maybe , maybe , but probably not Do they have a theme park , a Simpsons theme park .
Speaker 1I don't know , google it .
Speaker 2I can't use my phone right now .
Speaker 1Here's some other writers Dan Castaneda he also plays Homer . He was a writer , greg Daniels , who wrote them for the Office Parks and Rec . King of the Hill . Conan O'Brien . Bill Odenkirk , brother of Bob Odenkirk , also known for Futurama .
Speaker 2Futurama .
Speaker 1I like Futurama , but again , that wouldn't be around without the Simpsons . So , and we all know the opening when they come out , do , do , do , do , do do , do do , do , do do . And go through everything and go through everything , even that , every time what Bart is writing on the chalkboard , that's always different . Lisa's little ditty that she's playing on the sax always different . The couch scene always different .
Speaker 2Is it really ?
Speaker 1So it's not like they're resting on their laurels , I mean they're keeping it fresh they're keeping it fresh and they do a lot of timely things , like the Game of Thrones , and then they had , you know , I don't know .
Speaker 2They've even talked about Star Wars , bitcoin and crypto . Have they the Fink coin ?
Speaker 1Is that what they called it , the Fink ?
Speaker 2coin Yep , and they actually had the guy from Big Bang Theory on there as a character and he did a short description about cryptocurrency and blockchain .
Speaker 1Oh See , they're very informative too . What was I supposed to Google ?
Speaker 2Well , when they started , no .
Speaker 1No , what was it ? You told me to do it and I said no , I know .
Speaker 2Oh , if they're bigger than Mickey Mouse .
Speaker 1Oh no , Forget it Okay .
Speaker 2But is it true that they've predicted things ?
Speaker 1It is true , something's not good . What , what ? The obvious , yeah , and then they did it .
Speaker 2That's right . I haven't talked to you since then . We won't do it .
Speaker 1We won't do it . No , we won't give anybody airtime . So let's see , we got the Homer . Marge , bart , Lisa , maggie are the main characters .
Speaker 2Who are the dogs ? What's her dog's name ?
Speaker 1I don't know Santa's little helper don't know .
Speaker 2Santa's Little Helper .
Speaker 1Oh , shit , yeah . So that's what I think the first Christmas episode is how they get Santa's Little Helper . He's a dog track reject . His odds are 99 to 1 . And what's her cat's name ?
Speaker 2I don't know .
Speaker 1You know nothing about the Santa's . I wasn't lying . You know nothing about the Simpsons .
Speaker 2I wasn't lying .
Speaker 1Well , you kind of picked up any ?
Speaker 2Oh wait , you know , I'll see if I can get my notes .
Speaker 1I don't know if I can do this though the cat's name is Snowball , and then there's a second one called Snowball 2 .
Speaker 2Snowball 2? .
Speaker 1Snowball 2 . Who are their neighbors ?
Speaker 2I don't know the Jetsons .
Speaker 1Nah , they were before them . You know the Flanders .
Speaker 2Oh , yeah , yeah , yeah . What's a Maude ? And ?
Speaker 1Ned .
Speaker 2Ned and Maude .
Speaker 1Ned and Maude . Maude died she died . Maude and Todd . Oh , my favorite , one of my favorite episodes is when Bart and Lisa actually Marge and Homer are deemed unfit parents so they have to go live at the Flanders and they're having nachos Flanders style , and they're cucumbers with tomatoes on them .
Speaker 2You love that . I do have my notes .
Speaker 1Oh , okay . What would you like to add at this point ?
Speaker 2I don't know what are we talking about ? The neighbors ?
Speaker 1The neighbors .
Speaker 2I don't have anything about that .
Speaker 1And then how about the other ? Well , I was just looking at the outline characters . You got your main ones , of course , and then Marge's family . She had a mom , and then she's got her smoking sisters , patty and Selma . They like to smoke .
Speaker 2It sounds like they're smokers ?
Speaker 1They are smokers . And who's the owner of the nuclear plant ? I don't know .
Speaker 2Hold on . I don't know .
Speaker 1Montgomery Burns .
Speaker 2Yes , Mr Burns .
Speaker 1He owns Springfield pretty much , and who is his bootlick ? Is that a ? I think it's a suit Okay .
Speaker 2Anyway . So I thought there was a mouse shirt on the desk Is he .
Speaker 1What now ? Who is Montgomery Burns' bootlick ? I don't know what's a bootlick . What's ?
Speaker 2a bootlick . I don't know what's a bootlick ?
Speaker 1What's a bootlick ? You've never had anyone lick in your boots .
Speaker 2That's like an ass kisser Only nicer terms .
Speaker 1Montgomery Burns is his bootlick . I mean Waylon Smithers .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , they got the glasses and the mustache .
Speaker 1Yeah , I don't think he has a mustache .
Speaker 2Oh really yeah he's just the smithers . He's white , white guy .
Speaker 1Well , they're all yellow oh does that have any ethnicity on that show ? Yeah , they got a poo a what a poo is running the store , okay , and then , um , he , carl , I think is his black friend who he works with at the plant . Carl , and I can't think of the other guy's name .
Speaker 2Now , how has that changed over the years ? Did it always ? You know what I mean ? Did they add any customers characters that were .
Speaker 1You know , they kind of come and go , don't they ? I mean they have you know , grandpa's always there . Yeah , he's never going to die . No , although Maude died so .
Speaker 2I wonder why they got rid of Maude . She's a bitch , might be in my notes .
The Simpsons
Speaker 1And how about Krusty and Sideshow Bob ?
Speaker 2How about them ?
Speaker 1They're scary .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Mm-hmm and funny . And did you know ?
Speaker 2I didn't , obviously , you could ask me .
Speaker 1And you're going to say no .
Speaker 2Go ahead .
Speaker 1That Krusty was supposed to be Homer's secret identity . So when you look at them , side by side they look almost exactly the same and that's why .
Speaker 1And then they kind of gave that up . How about my other favorite uh characters , cletus the slack jog yokel , whose wife brandine says to him you're the best husband slash son I ever had . I like that it's . Uh , probably shouldn't thank him , but it's funny . And of course their Christmas episodes are always fun . But their main thing you have to watch is the Halloween Treehouse of Horrors episode . They're all wonderful .
Speaker 2I think I need to start watching the show .
Speaker 1Yeah , did you ever hear of it ? It's called Simpsons .
Speaker 2I have . I do have a few things .
Speaker 1I contribute . Okay , first let me say this uh , first I got a shout out , not shut out , but a ballyhoo to cassidy because she did not did call me out on , uh , the halloween episode for not mentioning the Simpsons Treehouse of Horrors . Oh , shoot , and she is absolutely correct , sorry . And also the Exorcist , but I debate that one . We're terrible , but one of Cletus's kids he has 44 of them is named Crystal , math , ah , and also one is named Cassidy oh , look at that . There's also Cody , okay , what do you know ?
Speaker 2Well , you know , bart , I do , he does those prank calls , he does and he calls it's Most Tavern .
Speaker 1Most Tavern .
Speaker 2You know , those are inspired by a real life group , the two Bart tapes . So basically Bart is referencing real life , prank calls that were done by this group .
Speaker 1You used to be able to do them because there was a caller ID . So , you could call somebody and say is your refrigerator running ?
Speaker 2If so , no , yes , it is .
Speaker 1And then you say sorry , I don't know why don't you go chase it or something I can't even remember .
Speaker 2Matt Groening . He actually appeared as a guest in the Simpsons movie . He played himself during a Springfield mob scene .
Speaker 1Oh , I like the Simpsons movie . Yeah , I thought it was fun .
Speaker 2And that talks about the predictions . Again , I thought that was pretty cool . They predicted some presidencies , one of them Disney acquiring Fox smartwatches and even the COVID pandemic .
Speaker 1Oh , they did have a COVID pandemic . So I say Sad . Real life doppelgangers . Of the Simpsons .
Speaker 2Yeah , fans have spotted real life people that actually look like the groundskeeper , willie and even Homer .
Speaker 1Big deal that's sad for those people . I like Groundskeeper Willie though .
Speaker 2Frank Coin , not Fink Coin , frank Frank .
Speaker 1Frank Frank .
Speaker 2F-R-I-N-K . Frank Coin . That's what it was called , not Fink Coin , sorry . Well , there's jokes .
Speaker 1Apparently in the background there's gags , yeah if you look in the background , there's always something going on and , depending on who the writers were , which , they were all really good , because if you watch an episode , you have , like , the main laughs , sure , but then there's so many one-liners and side laughs that you almost have to watch it numerous times .
Speaker 2I like having to watch stuff multiple times .
Speaker 1Oh , put it on repeat . It's on Hulu .
Speaker 2On Hulu . Do you have Hulu ? I do . Do you have Apple TV ?
Speaker 1No .
Speaker 2Do you have Netflix ? No , you should see Kate today . Everybody . We have a little heating thing going on here .
Speaker 1I am a kind of bumblebee . She has four sweatshirts ?
Speaker 2No , I don't know . She's wearing a coat , a scarf and moon boots .
Speaker 1I don't have moon boots on , but I wish I did . Those are nice boots , these are nice , they're spears .
Speaker 2They're seal .
Speaker 1Speary oh no , they're not seal .
Speaker 2She's got boots made out of baby seals .
Speaker 1Baby seals .
Speaker 2Controversial moments . What you can answer these probably . What about the principal and the pauper that episode ? The principal was an imposter named Armin Tasmaren .
Speaker 1Okay , I remember that episode , principal Skinner .
Speaker 2People didn't like that . Oh , they didn't . Did you like it ? I don't remember . And then that guy you're talking about , Apu .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2Some controversy there . They say that you know stereotypes .
Speaker 1They do kind of stereotype .
Speaker 2He was actually sidelined for a little bit . Oh , I didn't know that .
Speaker 1Michael Jackson . He was on the show a couple times they pulled that episode . Why ? Because of his .
Speaker 2It said season three episode Stark Raving Dad . Why ? Because it said season 3 episode stark raving dad featuring . Michael Jackson was removed after allegations that the singer resurfaced in . Oh , because , you know , because he had some stuff , some allegations against him . Yeah but anyway there's a lot of different ones .
Speaker 1Both the voice actor pay disputes and I think if you have that many episodes , it's kind of like you know the Beatles having that many songs , can every one of them be great and uncontroversial ? No , you have 500 songs . One of them's going to suck . So Simpsons episodes same thing You've got on 30 years . Not all of them are going to be glory .
Speaker 2Right ? Did you know that the number 64 recurs in various episodes ? Why , I don't know . They say that it's just to give a nod to Matt Groening's fascination with numbers and puzzles . And then God and Jesus Only have five .
Speaker 1They have five fingers . Everybody else has four .
Speaker 2So how do you like that ? Well , I guess I'll let you know when I see God . If I see God , maybe you'll see the other guy .
Speaker 1Or Jesus . Did you know that in Arabic the Simpsons have a version and Homer is Omer and instead of duff beer he drinks soda ? Oh , so they adapted . Yeah , matt is also the voice behind Maggie's sucking sound .
Speaker 2I hate that .
Speaker 1Does that bug you ? I don't like to see a kid with a pacifier . I know they work . Sometimes I like to see them with a pacifier but sometimes Maggie is the only one who gets away with it .
Speaker 1She's still young enough . She can do it . She's not like 10 . The other record that the Simpsons hold is the Guinness World Book of Records for most guest stars on a TV series , because they've had everybody and we'll get to those in a minute and lots of writers . How about not that you've watched them , but do you have a favorite episode ?
Speaker 2No , I don't .
Speaker 1Thanks for your honesty .
Speaker 2I can't think of one .
Speaker 1I will give you one and it will be , I think it's Snow White . E-i-e-i-doe Damn it .
Speaker 2And in this one .
Speaker 1They make a tomato , they hybrid a tomato that has tobacco in it , oh , and so everybody wants to keep eating it , sure , and so that's their claim to fame . E-i-e-i-dough that's another thing . Dough was just made up . It wasn't written down like that , that's just the noise that whoever does Homer can't remember . Homer is by , oh my gosh , dan , castellia , castellia , something like that . My favorite favorite episode is Lisa's a Vegetarian oh with Paul McCartney . Oh , see , you have seen it .
Speaker 2Parts of stuff I've seen .
Speaker 1Yes , and so , paul . They asked Paul McCartney and Linda was alive then and would you do the show ? And they said yes , as long as you make Lisa not only a vegetarian , but she has to stay a vegetarian . Through the rest of the series , through the rest of the show .
Speaker 2Wow .
Speaker 1So that's why Lisa's still a vegetarian .
Speaker 2That's a big ask .
Speaker 1Well , it's Paul McCartney asking . You can tell him no , I would have said listen , paul I think he had five fingers .
Speaker 2Maybe the rest of the season .
Speaker 1No , they said sure , mccartney , whatever you're saying . So lisa's a vegetarian and , um , if you remember that one , it has so many one-liners in there . Lisa's trying to get the neighborhood to eat and um , she brings us . She brings out borscht , which old stupid Barney the Drunkard yells go back to Russia . And then she brings out salad and they start a conga line and they're singing . You can't make friends with salad . You can't make friends with salad . I think this is the most I've sung on the show ever .
Speaker 2You're really belting it out today . You should be on the Voice .
Speaker 1But then Lisa meets up with Paul and Linda and they let her know she's doing okay , you can be a vegetarian and in the meantime Homer's trying to cook a turkey , I believe on the grill and he's putting lighter fluid on it and he does what everybody does with lighter fluid Put a little bit . Is that enough ?
Speaker 1No , put a little bit more , I better put a little bit more , I better put a little bit more . And he uses the whole can up and then when he lights it , you see like a nuclear blast , somehow the turkey goes flying too , and he is yelling . It's still good , it's still good . So if you're going to watch any Simpsons , watch that one . That one , and it's early on . It's like season four , simpsons . Watch that one and it's early on . It's like season four or six , does it ?
Speaker 2matter where you pick up .
Speaker 1You think no , but some things are timely . Some things are like Star Wars or Game of Thrones or whatever is popular or else is popular in the world and on TV and I guess if there's themes running throughout the show , from the very beginning .
Speaker 2If you start in the middle , you might not get all those things .
Speaker 1Maybe , but I think you can pick up on it .
Speaker 2Why do you think it's not ? You probably got more there .
Speaker 1I just have our past five ready . Oh wait , I'm not done , okay .
Speaker 2I want to talk about that a little bit , because the Simpsons it's not like it's . I mean , it's intelligent , it's written by some smart people .
Speaker 1Yeah , it is , yep .
Speaker 2But do you think that's the appeal ?
Speaker 1I think , because a lot of people can relate to it , whether you know , yes , they are the extreme , homer is the extreme , but people can still relate to that , you know .
Simpsons Guest Stars
Speaker 2Why do you think Marge sticks with him ?
Speaker 1I don't know Love . She must love him .
Speaker 2I don't know , oh , yeah , I remember that one .
Speaker 1There's more than one . Where she leaves him , she goes back . Oh homie .
Speaker 2I don't know , I don't know Bart Skateboarding around .
Speaker 1He's got all the catchphrases Butterfingers . What are his catchphrases ? I carumba .
Speaker 2Oh yeah .
Speaker 1Eat my shorts , that one Don't have a cow . Yes , man , thank you for filling in that blank . Why do you say Butterfinger ?
Speaker 2Because Isn't he a Butterfinger guy , spokesman for Butterfinger , butterfinger ?
Speaker 1I't he a Butterfinger guy Spokesman for Butterfinger .
Speaker 2I don't know Where's Nathan he's supposed to lick this stuff up . Oh Bart . We gotta grow our staff .
Speaker 1And then Maggie I love her too .
Speaker 2Yeah , she's like the voice of reason , is she not ?
Speaker 1Without having a voice . Yeah , she is . Anybody else you want to mention ?
Speaker 2I'm just thinking . I want to watch the Christmas episodes now .
Speaker 1I like the Christmas episodes .
Speaker 2Because you know that's coming up .
Speaker 1I don't know . They probably have Thanksgiving one . You should watch the Treehouse of Horror one . Those are the best . A lot of times they take off on classics and then they have their own version of everything . They're funny , they're very clever , very clever . I bet you could just run those . Do you have Hulu ? No , well , you better get it . I don't know where else it runs . I mean it's probably on regular TV .
Speaker 2YouTube TV . We've got too much . I've got to get rid of something . Yeah , commercials . I don't know where else it runs .
Speaker 1I mean it's probably on regular TV , youtube TV . We've got too much , I've got to get rid of something .
Speaker 2Yeah , commercials , I don't like those anymore . What ?
Speaker 1YouTube TV . No commercials .
Speaker 2Oh , there's , commercials on there .
Speaker 1So here is a sampling that we're going to do . These are guest stars . Of course you know Paul McCartney . We're not counting him . He , of course you know Paul McCartney , we're not counting him . He was probably their biggest guest star , but how about you can tell me if you think this guest star is a hero or a dick ? Oh boy , leonard Nimoy .
Speaker 2Hero .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2Why not ?
Speaker 1He played in 1993 , so early on .
Speaker 2He's kind of a neat dude .
Speaker 1Marge versus the monorail . Yeah , I think he's dead now . How about Glenn Close ? I don't want to like her Dick , some kind of actress or something , I don't know .
Speaker 2She's very talented .
Speaker 1Is she ?
Speaker 2She's got to be no .
Speaker 1Because her name is Glenn .
Speaker 2What is she in ? Was she in that ?
Speaker 1Out of Africa thing . Is that her ?
Speaker 2Was she in that ?
Speaker 1That don't matter , it doesn't matter .
Speaker 2Maybe we should do an episode about her .
Speaker 1Maybe , but I say no Okay .
Speaker 2Vetoed .
Speaker 1She plays Homer's mom anyway . How about Dustin Hoffman ?
Speaker 2I like that guy . I like him too , he's probably a real peckerhead , but I think he's a hero .
Speaker 1I don't think he's a peckerhead . I think he's an okay dude , isn't ?
Speaker 2that Rain man .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's Rain man .
Speaker 2And Mr McGoriam's Wonder Emporium .
Speaker 1Oh , that's a good one . And not a well-known one my favorite movie in the whole world he is in , and it is what's it called ? The .
Speaker 2Gratuate .
Speaker 1No , no , the Western . Oh my God .
Speaker 2What Western ?
Speaker 1What is it ?
Speaker 2Not Blazing Saddles , no but that was funny .
Speaker 1We watched that the other night .
Speaker 2You did . Yeah , oh my gosh , that's hilarious you can't even make that movie right now . No , I don't think you were supposed to talk about that movie . They did bleep out a couple words here's the movie brain man graduate tootsie .
Speaker 1That's a good little big man , of course , little big man , oh , and he's in the fokkers yeah , he is in the Fockers . Yeah , he is . Yeah , the second one , I think . So he played Lisa's substitute teacher and because he was under contract but with someone else , he was credited as Sam Etic . S-a-m . First name , last name , e-t-i-c . Semitic .
Speaker 2Clever , clever .
Speaker 1Clever Dustin Hoffman .
Speaker 2He's a big hero .
Speaker 1How about Stephen Hawking Hero ? I mean , you're going to call him a dick ? That would mean you're a dick . Yeah , he was actually on a couple times , so good for him , he has a sense of humor .
Speaker 1Brilliant dude , eh he was on like four times , yeah , couple times . So good for him . He has a sense of you , brilliant dude . He was on like four times , um , yeah , and the best one I think is number five . Uh , it was space coyote , was the episode . I think it was in 97 is what I wrote down . It was when homer eats that chili . Did you ever watch that one ? You should watch that one . It's super funny and Johnny Cash is like his the dream sequence guy Like he sees him . Yeah , it was great .
Speaker 2Johnny Cash .
Speaker 1And Johnny Cash . He's a hero .
Speaker 2He's a hero . You know , we're going to find some stuff about that dude though .
Speaker 1Oh , he's not an angel .
Speaker 2No .
Speaker 1But he's a hero .
Speaker 2But he's walking the line . He walks the line .
Speaker 1He walks the line .
Speaker 2Have you seen that movie ?
Speaker 1I have .
Speaker 2Is it good ?
Speaker 1Yes , joaquin Phoenix , I like Joaquin , mm-hmm , mm-hmm , mm-hmm .
Speaker 2Did you see the new movie the Joker with him ?
Speaker 1No , you should .
Speaker 2Is it good ? I don't know , I didn't see it . But then I can ask you about it and we can have a podcast episode and you can talk about the whole thing and I can pretend like I didn't see it .
Speaker 1And next week everybody I won't study and Kim will study .
Speaker 2What are we doing ?
Speaker 1I don't know yet .
Speaker 2Okay , I'm going to pick something really hard like neuroscience or something . No , I should have . I swear , I got my notes here .
Speaker 1I know that's all right . You just need to watch the Simpsons more .
Speaker 2I do .
Speaker 1So if you have any comments about the Simpsons or about KJ's lack of education of the Simpsons , please email us at herordick2023 at gmailcom , and we will see you next time .
Speaker 2Thanks everybody .
Speaker 1Okay , bye .
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