Hero or Dick
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We started this podcast with a blunt question about people: Hero or Dick?
Then we found ourselves asking it about places, traditions, entertainment, and the ordinary stuff we’d never thought to question before. Who gets praised? What gets overlooked? Why are we so sure we know the story?
We pick something that interests us, do our homework, and sit down to talk. We bring facts, opinions, and stories from our own lives, and follow the occasional tangent.
Sometimes we reach a verdict. Sometimes the question gets more interesting.
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~ Kate & KJ
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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick - S2., Ep. 21 - Chevy Chase
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Welcome to another episode of Hero or Dick! This time around, we turn our attention to the enigmatic and ever-fascinating Chevy Chase. From his early days as a drummer in what would become Steely Dan to his pioneering role on Saturday Night Live, Chase's career has been as unpredictable as it is legendary.
We also have a candid discussion about New Year's resolutions and tackle the paradox of personal improvement, debating whether kindness to mean people or the art of regifting makes one a hero or a "dick."
As always, thanks for listening!
~ Kate & KJ
Health Scare and Crypto Investments
Speaker 1Hello , greetings . Can you hear me , kate ?
Speaker 2I can Okay Kind of .
Speaker 1You can kind of yeah no , I can . We're having , as usual , technical difficulties .
Speaker 2You know that on button .
Speaker 1It's tricky , I know . And then the battery having to put the battery in , oh , my God , Fuck man .
Speaker 2We need an IT person .
Speaker 1We do Well . We had one , but there's been some budget cuts , so there's been some budget cuts .
Speaker 2So welcome to Hero or Dick Season 2 , episode 21 . That ought to be our last one of the year , I think .
Speaker 1Ever , Maybe , Especially if what happened the other day to me happens again .
Speaker 2What happened ?
Speaker 1For about I don't know a week or two Now , and then I'm feeling lightheaded or whatever , and then I thought a little anxious . And then waking up in the middle of the night I had a disease stress which it probably was , but I wasn't sure . And then , about a week and a half ago , the left side of my face got a little numb . Oh , that's not good , but I'm like again , I'm like it's got to be strong . There's a lot going on , as you know .
Speaker 2There is , but your face doesn't go numb .
Speaker 1Well , it did . And so the other day , Thursday or whatever , Brooke and I it was lunchtime I came home and we went on a walk , as we do , yeah .
Speaker 2I see you walking the dog .
Speaker 1Yeah , walking the dog , all of a sudden my vision started going Like peripheral vision was going , and then I kept telling everybody that was asking it was like when you look at the sun and then you see sunspots , but it was getting more and more and more of those . Like , I looked down , I couldn't even see the dog . I knew there was a dog there , the colors and stuff Couldn't see road signs , and then I got really lightheaded and and then I got really lightheaded and we got home and I'm like I got to go lay down . But I lay down and that only made it worse , because then you start thinking about it . I was really weak and I'm like , god damn it , brooke , you got to take me to the doctor and she's like , should we go to the ER ? I'm like , well , maybe , but we went to urgent care .
Speaker 2We get to urgent care , tell them what's going on and they said go to ER .
Speaker 1They get me back right away and they're like we think you're having a stroke , so we need to get an ambulance . And I'm like I said don't call an ambulance , my wife can take me , it's quicker .
Speaker 2I think they have to , though they said that they made me sign a thing .
Speaker 1So the whole time I could have been dead , it's like . So we went and they got me in right away at ER and did the whole stroke protocol . They thought I was having a stroke . Yeah , my blood pressure was 250 over 220 , but it got down to 215 over 115 . But that's way high . Oh yeah , and then it got down more and more . But anyway , long story short , it's eight hours in the ER .
Speaker 2Which is just not stressful at all .
Speaker 1Yeah , and so .
Speaker 2I got to take better care of myself . Is that what they said in the end ? No , they didn't say that . Oh , what did they say ?
Speaker 1They didn't even give me any like .
Speaker 2Diagnosis .
Speaker 1No , they thought it was a stroke . But then I got a CT scan , an MRI , and the CT scan showed that I may have had a stroke in the past and that it just healed itself because it wasn't .
Speaker 2And , as weird as that sounds , I think that's common .
Speaker 1I think people do and they write it off and they just think , oh , but here's the thing Then , when they did the MRI man , those coffees are delicious .
Speaker 2Yeah , really good , I don't know where you go . Big B Peppermint sometimes .
Speaker 1Peppermint I did two decafs this morning , I thought I'd treat kate and I to a real coffee anyway . What were we ?
Speaker 2talking about I don't know .
Speaker 1You had a stroke no , I didn't have a stroke , because the mri showed that I didn't . And then you sit there and you talk to four or five different doctors some people almost doctors , some nurses , some almost nurses and then you talk to a doctor , a real one , apparently from the ? U of m , on a on a tv . That doesn't give me comfort .
Speaker 2No , it does not .
Speaker 1How do you know that it's even a real doctor ?
Speaker 2It could have been AI , it could have been , you know , somebody's brother-in-law just doing an acting job .
Speaker 1Yeah , he hacked in .
Speaker 2Anyway . So what did the quote-unquote real doctor say ?
Speaker 1He wasn't sure . He said that it didn't appear to be a stroke , but that it could be due to the stress in my life . And I think man , I'm a wimp because there's people that got a lot of shit , serious stuff , going on , you know , whenever you think you got it bad . And here I'm like .
Speaker 2I got the high blood pressure .
Speaker 1Somebody help me Such a wimp . Big pussy I am a big pussy and I feel bad for my wife , but she was there for me , she took me in and I bet the whole . While she's thinking , oh my God , let me remind you that I had two children and after the first one I went to school . Like two days later she did , I had a kid and then went right back to class in college . But who's pumping out babies in college ? Just kidding , honey .
Speaker 2Love you .
Speaker 1It's not easy . No , women are tougher than men .
Speaker 2So the moral to the story is take better care of yourself . Did they give you some blood pressure medicine or something ?
Speaker 1Nothing .
Speaker 2Nothing , nothing . When do you go to your regular doctor ?
Speaker 1I never do .
Speaker 2That might be a problem .
Speaker 1That's what I've been hearing . Maybe go to the doctor once a year instead of these ER visits I give you .
Speaker 2Yeah , I bet Brooke would appreciate that . She would you go to the doctor ? On your lunch hour once or twice a year , versus her spending a whole day in ER .
Speaker 1She didn't , I didn't make her . She felt bad . I said just go , I'll be fine . Well , I felt bad too . I understand that .
Speaker 2But I went in and then she's like all right , but I feel like I should be here yeah , I kind of have to . Maybe I got to get those last you would do it for me , but I got to get those last bank passwords before you die . The crypto , the Okay , you know I checked my crypto this week because somebody was asking me about crypto .
Speaker 1I'm like I don't know I threw $25 in it yeah .
Speaker 2Like , what was it Two years ago ? Well , two years ago . And it's at $65 .
Speaker 1Oh , good yeah , but that was earlier in the week too .
Speaker 2I didn't check it after everything tanked . I thought that was pretty good .
Speaker 1Dude , you're not a dude , but it's gone up a lot in the last month and it's gone down a little . It'll skyrocket or get up higher some things because crypto's being more accepted .
Speaker 2Yeah , I should probably put more than that $25 thing .
Speaker 1Yeah , think of if you would have put in a hundred . I know a thousand .
Speaker 2I know , well , now , I know . But as with everything , it's a crapshoot , you know not when you got me guiding you okay , your head's gonna explode because your blood pressure is so high .
Speaker 1Well , that might Big ego and arrogance Like the topic of our podcast .
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Speaker 2Oh , good segue , Because today's topic is Say it .
Speaker 1Chevy Chase , is it Chevy or Chevy ?
Speaker 2Chevy , everyone says it every way . Yeah , however you want to say it , chevy Chase is our topic today . His real name is Cornelius Crane Chase . He was nicknamed after the ballad of . Chevy Chase is our topic today . His real name is Cornelius Crane Chase .
Speaker 1He was nicknamed after the ballot of Chevy Chase .
Speaker 2Oh was he . Grandma gave him the nickname .
Speaker 1I don't know , did his grandma beat him like his parents ? Because he got beat by his parents . Quite often Really Says who His mom and his stepdad .
Speaker 2Says Chevy .
Speaker 1Yeah , In interviews with Washington Post . I watched two of them and then .
Speaker 2He came from a very prominent family . They had some buckage .
Speaker 1They did . His father was Edward Tinsley Chase . He was a Princeton-educated book editor and writer .
Speaker 2She was a concert pianist and a libertist . What's a libertist ? I don't know .
Speaker 1Siblings , older brother Edward , and several half-siblings , and he had a few kids of his own .
Speaker 2But I mean , he was born in Manhattan and he had a pretty dump . I suppose there's dumps there , but he was not living in them , he was of privilege , let's say Sure .
Speaker 1He went to Bard College .
Speaker 2I didn't read anything about him being beaten , though .
Speaker 1Came right from his mouth .
Speaker 2That's why maybe I didn't read it .
Speaker 1Right , and there were some other articles about it too . His stepdad , john Cedarquist , was kind of a pecker , I guess , and it got to the point where his older brother , ned and Chevy , kind of stood up to him and said you can't treat us like that anymore , because he came up behind him one of the times and smacked him in the back of the head really hard and told him to get to the fucking library or something like that . But then his mom apparently too had some issues , locked him in a closet for like days to punish him for something .
Speaker 2Hmm , wow , what website are you getting that from ? Chevy'sgotproblemscom I think he may have created it ?
Speaker 1I'm not sure . I don't know .
Speaker 2I mean , I'm just telling you it could be true . I'm not saying it's not .
Speaker 1Who hasn't been abused ?
Speaker 2Well , I haven't been like that . Nobody locked me in the closet .
Speaker 1Really .
Speaker 2No .
Speaker 1Well , I don't know . He said he was several times in different interviews .
Speaker 2Okay , and who are we to disagree ? I don't know , maybe he was Of course he could , that could explain a lot .
Speaker 1Well , yeah , he said that , Maybe he was explaining it away . Well , here's the weird thing , and I know I'm getting off track . He was asked you know how did it affect him ? He said that he hates Don't laugh , but he hates bullies . But he actually turned into a bully . Yeah , you know so .
Speaker 2And so is that his defense , then ?
Speaker 1No , he doesn't defend it anymore .
Speaker 2He says that he was a jerk .
Speaker 1Yeah , but he said that he thinks a lot of it was taken out of context , in that some of the folks from Saturday Night Live were jealous of his success because he was the first cast member that took off .
Speaker 2He was on the first season of SNL in 1975 . And did you know that he was the first person to say live from New York ?
Speaker 1Saturday night . How cool is that To be the first one that's a nice thing to have a plaque to have on the wall .
Speaker 2But he left after one year and maybe some of them were jealous of him . Maybe he was just a jerk too . I think maybe a little of both . I think maybe a little about .
Speaker 1I think it was a little about too , because he is pretty .
Speaker 2He's arrogant . Okay , so are you arrogant or confident ?
Speaker 1I think he is confident in his chops . As far as his comedy chops , yes , and even Joel McHale from the community .
Speaker 2Who really doesn't like him ? Yeah ?
Speaker 1Actually I watched two podcasts with him talking about Chevy Chase and he actually played him in a movie not too long ago , a documentary about him , and he let Chevy know that he was going to be doing it and he was like , yeah , that's fine and they don't get along , obviously , but they don't spat anymore . But he said that .
Speaker 2They don't work together anymore .
Speaker 1He said it was like a cantankerous old man came to the set and didn't want to work the hours that were required . So that was a big contention and he always thought that he could do better writing and acting . And Joel said and I'm paraphrasing , but he said basically that Chevy was right because he was masterful at comedy and funnier than anybody there .
Speaker 2His comedic timing and dry wit are fantastic . I mean , you can't National Lampoon Vacation and Christmas Vacation would be nothing without him .
Speaker 1Fletch .
Speaker 2And Fletch Caddyshack , but he is kind of always playing that same character . Guy yeah , Spies Like Us . That was actually a funny one too . But he is kind of always playing that same guy Spies Like Us . That was actually a funny one too , Quentin .
Speaker 1Tarantino was talking about that . I watched that yesterday too .
Speaker 2As you can tell , I was a little passionate about this subject . You did your homework Good job .
Speaker 1Quentin Tarantino was comparing well , talking about 80s movies , because he's obviously a little into film .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1And he was talking about the difference between bill murray and chevy chase and he said he will hands down . And again , quentin doesn't know anything about movies . Take chevy chase as an actor in his movies over bill murray any day , because bill murray it's the happy story all the time . It's like in scrooged , he's like oh , he's a mean guy and he goes good , he's like . But what he likes about the Chevy Chase movies is he's always the same arrogant guy . So I don't know , that's just his take on it and he is through Fletch , through Spies Like Us , which also has Dan Aykroyd , who oh , he's awesome , he's great , Nothing but Trouble .
Speaker 2Funny Farm , Three Amigos yeah , he's great and then he isn't . He was great through the 80s or maybe even early 90s , and then he had the Chevy Chase Show .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2Which flopped after six weeks it did . He's not that guy . He can't sit behind a desk and interview you , I think , because he's more ego-driven . So , oh hey , let's talk about me .
Speaker 1Butterman did it , and he's an egotistical .
Speaker 2He wasn't talking about him , though .
Speaker 1No .
Speaker 2In fact , he deflected most everything about him . We should do a pod on him . I love him . I do . Now we don't have to do it because he could do whatever . David .
Speaker 1Lefman .
Speaker 2He will never be a dick in my book . How about Community , though ? When Chevy Chase was on that show with Joel McHale , he was fired because he used a racial slur on set .
Speaker 1See that's not what they said .
Speaker 2That's what I read in a couple sources , but I don't know specifically what , and that's fine .
Speaker 1Yeah , because .
Speaker 2I heard there was a little between him and Glover arguing all the time yes and him , and physical fights between him and Joel .
Speaker 1McHale yeah , one time he dislocated Chevy Chase's shoulder .
Speaker 2Really he's a big guy , that Joel McHale .
Speaker 1He's tall .
Speaker 2Really tall , so he probably pounded down on him . And Chevy got in physical fights with Bill Murray . I don't know if there was an actual physical fight I couldn't find it but it had a big rivalry , and rivalry , let's just say , with John Belushi .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2I don't know if they ever came to blows .
Speaker 1You said that in that one fight with Bill Murray that it was kind of like the three of them were hitting each other . But they went right on with the show and then you talk to what's her name .
Speaker 2Lorraine Newman .
Speaker 1I don't know . Is that her , the blonde lady that was on Saturday Night Live ? Yeah , she said . I watched the interview with her and she said or Jane . Curtin , oh , jane Curtin . Yeah , she said , and she was the one that was sober . She's like it was just testosterone Boys with testosterone . She said it got blown out of proportion . It never was as bad . She's like yeah , chevy was an arrogant prick , he's like , but a lot of those guys were .
Speaker 2I bet he wasn't the only one that was arrogant .
Speaker 1You can't tell me Bill Murray can't be a peckerhead .
Speaker 2Well , I can't tell you that , but some people would tell you that I have big love for him too .
Speaker 1He's all right
Chevy Chase's Comedy Legacy
Speaker 1.
Speaker 2Sorry , here was a little known fact though that I thought was very interesting that Chevy Chase played drums in a band in college named the Leather Canary .
Speaker 1Yeah , and after Chevy Chase left the band , it became Steely Dan .
Speaker 2That's pretty fucking awesome . Well , what would have been if he would have stayed ?
Speaker 1It would have been the Chippy Chase band . And then they would have flopped and he would have been the lead singer and the drummer and the guitarist , and he would have wrote the music . He also was in another band too . I forget the name of it . They actually put out one album . It wasn't very good , but I remember that he did a self-titled musical comedy album in 1980 .
Speaker 2And see , in 1980 , he was really in his prime I would say , yeah , you know , late 70s or early 80s , that's when he did Fletch and Funny Farm .
Speaker 1You know I love the sarcasm , but it's all the time , even in his interviews . Now he's 70 or 80 .
Speaker 2And he still does it . He still does it . He can't stop . So maybe he's not even acting , maybe that's just him .
Speaker 1No , I don't know . I think he's always on , like Robin Williams was always on , but not in the same . Like he's always on , just always .
Speaker 2Just watch Christmas Vacation , because you can't not watch it .
Speaker 1It's on every channel .
Speaker 2I love it All day long , 24-7 . Now the part where he's giving his boss the gift or no , when the boss is walking by .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , kiss his ass .
Speaker 2Kiss my ass , kiss your ass , kiss his ass .
Speaker 1Abionica .
Speaker 2Abionica . Yeah , I mean I don't know if that was in the script or what .
Speaker 1Oh , we could do a little thing about that . Who his ?
Speaker 2boss is Brian Doyle Murray .
Speaker 1Yes , that's right .
Speaker 2Yeah , bill's brother Brian .
Speaker 1The guy talks like this yeah , he does . He's in a Bubble Boy episode of Seinfeld . He was the Bubble Boy's dad . He was what's his name ? That played the kid and he was in Roseanne Johnny , whatever his name is . He was talking pretty highly about Mr Chase saying that .
Speaker 2Wasn't he also on Big Bang Theory ? Yeah , he was .
Speaker 1He said that when he was young it was amazing how much he took the time to help him with his acting and timing .
Speaker 2Oh , that's right , because he was the son in there and also Beverly D'Angelo talks .
Speaker 1She knows he is who he is , but she talks really well . And I actually watched last night Hotel Hell Vacation , which is a 14-minute long short film with Chevy Chase and Beverly D'Angelo and they're in the old wooden station wagon and they go on a romantic getaway to this hotel just the two of them because they're about to go to their grandkid's house with Rusty and they spend the night there . It is hilarious .
Speaker 2Okay , I'll have to look through that .
Speaker 1I mean maybe I was off my nut last night watching it , but my daughter came in and checked on me . I was laughing so hard . I mean it was really good .
Speaker 2And that movie is just so funny and it's still funny , even though I've seen it 50-plus times probably when they're going to get the Christmas tree and they're singing fa-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la .
Speaker 1Take it Rusty . There's a lot of I'm getting off track .
Speaker 2There's a lot of missing .
Speaker 1Quite a few scenes were cut from that I found that out last night .
Speaker 2I'd like to see the unedited version .
Speaker 1There's a version . Well , I don't know if it ever came out , but remember in the movie where they're in the car and they go flying off that snow bank and crash into the Christmas tree thing . There's actually a whole scene there where there's an old guy that runs the christmas tree place and , uh , they go to pay for a tree and he's like we didn't bring a saw . He's like I don't have a saw .
Speaker 1You have to bring your own saw , and you know later on yeah they're going with the car on the hood , they actually borrow a shovel from that guy and dig it out , because he refers to that later when he's talking to Eddie . He's like dug it out with my own hands .
Speaker 2Dug it out myself , yeah .
Speaker 1And he actually borrows a shovel and they cut that out . But there's a whole bunch of other stuff , especially with the old lady .
Speaker 2The Aunt Clara .
Speaker 1Yeah , the old lady , is that her name ? Yeah , the old lady , is that her name ? Yeah , clara and Uncle Lewis .
Speaker 2Yeah , In the regular Christmas or the regular vacation . It's Aunt Edna and it's Emma Jean Coco and she is the best . She comes out with that walker to get her name with her helper . I love it .
Speaker 1Anyway , we better get back to him . Yeah , so Chevy Chase the physical comedy .
Speaker 2Physical comedy is unmatched .
Speaker 1He had a lot of addiction problems oh that was cool . Yeah , painkillers , alcohol .
Speaker 2I think he did a lot of coke in the 80s which anybody with money really did .
Speaker 1There was a Dick Cavett episode . I watched where he was on there and talking about cocaine .
Speaker 2Yeah , it was pretty terrible . I love the cocaine he did . Love the cocaine he did . He probably spent a lot of money on it .
Speaker 1He's worth $50 million , yet .
Speaker 2Oh , good for you . I hope he gets a residual from those movies . I bet yeah .
Speaker 1And every little ornament hanging on someone's tree , the sweaters .
Speaker 2There's a lot of swag to do with the Christmas vacation .
Speaker 1He travels around and they show his movies at theaters and he goes in with the crowd on the stage while they're showing the movie and he'll answer questions about the movie .
Speaker 2Well , that's very nice of him .
Speaker 1Well , it's about him , but no , I think it's kind of cool that he does that Ask questions about me . Only he's won three primetime Emmy .
Speaker 2Awards For what ?
Speaker 1Outstanding Writing for a Variety Series , Outstanding Writing for a Comedy , Variety or Musical Series and Individual Performance in a Variety or Music Program .
Speaker 2But for SNL .
Speaker 1Yeah , and he got a Hollywood Walk of Fame star in 93 and he was inducted to the New Jersey Hall of Fame in 2018 for his contributions to arts and entertainment . He donates a lot to causes for animals , pets and arts things of that nature .
Speaker 2Well , that's good . Good for you , Chevy .
Speaker 1You hate them . I can tell already Go ahead .
Speaker 2Is it time for me to say yeah ? I guess I could say oh , do you have ?
Speaker 1some more info . You've got more stuff there .
Speaker 2No , I Do . You like how I wrote it on my notebook . It's red and green , like it's Christmas .
Speaker 1Eve and you have a green hat on and a red shirt . I do , I just finished this hat this morning , oh nice job .
Speaker 2Thank you , it's got a tree on the side . Let me see , let's see Right here .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , nice job . Thank you , kate made this hat herself . Everyone , you could send in some money . They're $39.95 .
Speaker 2She'll make you one , maybe this hat is actually made out of . I can't think of the oxen's specific name , but Cassidy bought it in Alaska . The ox so it's really warm .
Speaker 1It looks wool almost .
Speaker 2It's wool , but it's from an oxen or something Ox wool something . I have to look it up . Oxbowl , Also , while we're talking about Cassidy , she said and she pointed out and she is correct as always that we were calling on the soup episode . We were calling progresso soup , progressive soup , which that's a different thing apparently .
Speaker 1Oops , sorry . That's pretty close , but yeah , we got the P . Oops , sorry , that's pretty close , but yeah we got the P .
Speaker 2She's right , she's always right .
Speaker 1So I mean , what are the other things you found out about him ?
Speaker 2Nothing .
Speaker 1You didn't find anything else .
Speaker 2I mean , we went through everything , I found out oh man , here goes that plane again .
Speaker 1He's been in at least 20 films .
Speaker 2Oh , at least At least 20 films . Oh , at least yeah .
Speaker 1The Groove Tube . You ever hear that one .
Speaker 2I have not .
Speaker 1Follow Play with Goldie Hawn . I got that one on my list . Caddyshack , yep , seems Like Old Times . National Lampoon's Vacation . Yeah , fletch , yeah , national Lampoon's Vacation .
Speaker 2There's a couple Fletches too . Fletch Christmas vacation , european vacation , vegas vacation . And then you said there was a short on them too . Yeah .
Speaker 1Hotel Hell .
Speaker 2Hotel Hell . Oh no , I'm sorry .
Speaker 1What did I call ?
Speaker 2that I thought you said .
Speaker 1Hotel Hell vacation . It was from 2010 . Oh , Hot Tub Time Machine . He was the repairman .
Speaker 2Oh , that's right , it was in Orange County Snow Day .
Speaker 1Man of Three Amigos . Yes , that was cool .
Speaker 2Funny Farm . Did you ever see that one that I own it ? I love it . It's funny . Yes , I see that dog . Every time I see that dog , it just runs . Would you call that a Christmas movie ?
Speaker 1Because there's a whole thing where it's about Christmas at the end .
Speaker 2Yeah , you could classify it as such , if you want , so I can watch it today . Yeah , you can , yep , you can . Then you have to go to work .
Speaker 1Me Are you on vacation all day ? I'm off today . Oh , my gosh Kate's trying to get rid of me Congratulations . Thank you .
Speaker 2Yeah , you can go home . After you give Joby a ride , you can go home and watch a couple Christmas movies , and then you'll have to go pick her up . Oh yeah , pick her up , I am Okay . So I'm going to say fantastic comedic timing and dry wit , yes , but however , I think he is a dick in real life and that's what counts . So I'm going to call him a dick . Sorry , Chevy .
Speaker 1Yeah , this is one of my fence ones .
Speaker 2I mean , his movies are great .
Resolutions and Holiday Reflections
Speaker 1I think he is a dick , but he's kind of a hero to me the more I actually researched him . I don't think he's a bad human . I think he says shit that he shouldn't say .
Speaker 2And maybe he was a dick for a certain reason . I don't know why . But don't be a dick . That's my reason .
Speaker 1Yeah , you shouldn't be a dick . So he's kind of a heroic dick . But I guess if I had to pick , he's a dick , yeah , but I don't know . I think he'd be cool . I think he'll be on the show too . He's not doing anything .
Speaker 2I think he's a dick . He'll say fuck you .
Speaker 1He probably would and he'd laugh . He would laugh about it .
Speaker 2But , chevy , if you're listening , prove me otherwise .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , please do .
Speaker 2All right , you know .
Speaker 1I actually had a fast five this time . What ?
Speaker 2is it ? But you've got something Go ahead . Well , I just wrote down fast five of resolutions , because we're close to the end of the year , mm-hmm . Mm-hmm year , so I have a few resolutions that might work , might not , might be hero , might be dicks , okay , okay . So the first one that you said was to get your blood pressure down . How could that ever be a dick move ?
Speaker 1Well , it's not , but it's kind of a dickish . Every year someone's like I'm going to get healthier , I'm going to eat better .
Speaker 2I'm going to go to the gym . I'm going to stop drinking . I'm going to go to the gym . I'm going to stop drinking , but you're going to get your blood pressure down . I think yours needs to be . I'm going to go to the doctor regularly .
Speaker 1Yeah , probably .
Speaker 2That would be good .
Speaker 1Wait , what did you say ? Is this a hero ?
Speaker 2I say that's a hero move . Yeah , because then Brooke doesn't have to sit in the ER .
Speaker 1Well , yeah , you should go to the doctor once a year .
Speaker 2Will that kill you ? No , it might kill you if you don't .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's true .
Speaker 2So one that I have is to be nice to mean people , and by mean people I mean people who I normally wouldn't be nice to .
Speaker 1Can you give out ?
Speaker 2I'm not going to give out names , but if I'm nice to you now you're going to wonder if she made nice to me because , she liked me before she said that .
Speaker 1You know that's giving people grace , basically yeah . Instead of being mean back .
Speaker 2I'm just going to .
Speaker 1I like it when you're a little edgy . I'm not going to lie .
Speaker 2I didn't say I was going to kiss anybody's ass .
Speaker 1There you go .
Speaker 2She why I didn't say I was going to kiss anybody's ass . There you go , she's back .
Speaker 1But I'm going to be kind to mean people . Okay , oh my God , I can't even say it , I know , and your face was all contorted saying it .
Speaker 2That's a hero move , that is a hero move , I say something .
Speaker 1It's not going to happen .
Speaker 2What's your other one ? You said Read more . What's your ?
Speaker 1other one . You said Read more , oh , read more .
Speaker 2Everybody should read more .
Speaker 1That's heroic .
Speaker 2That's heroic right there .
Speaker 1Everybody should read . Put your phones down unless you've got a book on them .
Speaker 2Unless you're reading a book on your phone . So on Goodreads , I set the goal every year . My goal is 50 books and I'm at 48 . So we'll see . I think I read more than that .
Speaker 1I think you did too .
Speaker 2But I don't think I recorded everything . That's okay , alright , so of course that would be a hero . How could that not be a hero , alright , in the ? In the context of being nice to mean people , I'm also going to listen to people more instead of playing on my phone while people are talking to me , you seem like a good listener . I try to be , but apparently .
Speaker 1Oh jeez , Is someone telling you that you're not a good listener ?
Speaker 2Some people say and to be a better listener , what do you have to do ?
Speaker 1Listen .
Speaker 2Make eye contact .
Speaker 1I don't know about that .
Speaker 2I do .
Speaker 1Okay .
Speaker 2I think if I make an eye contact I can wander in my thoughts .
Speaker 1But if I look at people like if I don't look at people , I can concentrate more on what they're saying . I think that's me Okay , Like when I'm listening to music or a good story , an audio book , I gotta close my eyes that's not a human . I'm closing my eyes right now . How about if you're ?
Speaker 2talking to a human . I don't like humans . There's like a handful I do so are you making eye contact with them ? Sometimes try it okay .
Speaker 1I'll put that on my list we mentioned the soup thing .
Speaker 2The only other resolution I have is ask why all the time , maybe not all the time , but sometimes more often so just not accept things right , if somebody tells you something , don't just say okay why I ? Don't just say okay .
Speaker 1Why ? I don't know .
Speaker 2This might conflict with your being nice to mean people .
Speaker 1Why you ? Alright , you want me to go through mine . Yes , ready , yeah , be gifting .
Speaker 2It can be heroic , because if you don't have a gift for somebody , then you're a dick . They come hey , look at me . I'm like , oh God , look at me , I don't have a gift for you .
Speaker 1And sometimes you get something and you're like this is really nice and I appreciate the fact that they thought of me , but you know what I think this person can use it more than I can .
Speaker 2Yeah , so it depends on what you're regifting and you have to be careful you can't regift to anybody in that circle .
Speaker 1It'll get back to them .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1So I'm not opposed to it , but I'm not a big proponent of it . Black Friday shopping .
Speaker 2Hate it .
Speaker 1Next .
Speaker 2Egg nog .
Speaker 1No , nog Office holiday parties .
Speaker 2I don't know they can get you in trouble . Yeah , they can . No nog Office holiday parties , I don't know , they can get you in trouble , yeah , they can no alcohol .
Speaker 1We watched the office Christmas party last night .
Speaker 2I need to watch that Jason Bateman .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's pretty raunchy , and then Mariah Carey's All I Want for Christmas song .
Speaker 2I heard an interview and she said I think writing that song , which I didn't know , she wrote it . I thought she would sing it . She said she wrote it and she said I think writing that song is the best thing I ever did in my life , like whoa .
Speaker 1The best .
Speaker 2That's pretty heavy . She's got a couple kids too , yeah , sorry kids . Sorry , kids , but the song is what's Feeding you Diamonds ? I mean , it must have made her a gazillion and five dollars .
Speaker 1Yeah , probably . I mean I'd it's a catchy tune I have to say I like it because I love the movie Love . Actually , that is my favorite , favorite Christmas movie . You know that little girl actually sang that .
Speaker 2Yeah , and I like her version of it better than Mariah's . But the song itself I do like I'm a hero .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2All right , call me sentimental .
Speaker 1Well , today is the 23rd . Tomorrow , santa , supposedly , is going to be coming .
Speaker 2What do you mean ? Supposedly ? Well , if you're good , do you have some news ?
Speaker 1I don't know . We won't talk anymore until after the New Year's .
Speaker 2No , we won't .
Speaker 1Have a Merry Christmas .
Speaker 2Yeah , merry Christmas to everyone . You can say it , it's fine .
Speaker 1I usually say Happy Holidays , because that encompasses everything . Yeah , I used to say Merry Christmas , but I don't want to leave anybody out . You know Happy days .
Speaker 2Happy holidays how about that .
Speaker 1Happy holidays .
Speaker 2That encompasses everything . And Happy New Year too .
New Year's Reflection on Gratitude
Speaker 22025 , I don't hear something I was thinking about too . You know everybody is getting to the end of 2024 , and they're all oh , this is the most controversial or worst , worst time , or we've had a hard year , and at the end of every year , nobody says you know , gee , 2024 , that was a breeze , let's do that again . You know they don't say that . So every year may seem hard , but it's not . No , it's not .
Speaker 1We're not living in caves .
Speaker 2That could be . That's not the worst thing that could happen to us .
Speaker 1True , but you know what I mean I do . People bitch about me talking about my high blood pressure . Now I look back and I've got to edit that out because I'm just being a little bitch , because we all have pretty good lives and we make our decisions every day .
Speaker 2It's like you've got a choice and I think when you start to complain or oh , you know , whatever , we're out of butter .
Speaker 1I don't know .
Speaker 2What's a complaint ? But it's like you're not living through a Holocaust , right ? You're just watching a show on Hulu that's called we Were the Lucky Ones , and it's about the people who survived through the war .
Speaker 1Oh , wow .
Speaker 2And those people went through a lot of shit . They didn't even die Right Dying would have been easier , yeah .
Speaker 1And everything they go through .
Speaker 2It's like all right , shut up . They're probably not being a dick . No , they're not .
Speaker 1And if they are , well , they got a little .
Speaker 2They have right to be . So Happy New Year and think of it that way Every year is new .
Speaker 1Everybody . Reach deep down , pull your heads out of your asses and look for the positivity in the everyday , because we don't do enough of that .
Speaker 2Be nice to mean people Right on .
Speaker 1All right , happy New Year .
Speaker 2Bye .
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