Hero or Dick
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We started this podcast with a blunt question about people: Hero or Dick?
Then we found ourselves asking it about places, traditions, entertainment, and the ordinary stuff we’d never thought to question before. Who gets praised? What gets overlooked? Why are we so sure we know the story?
We pick something that interests us, do our homework, and sit down to talk. We bring facts, opinions, and stories from our own lives, and follow the occasional tangent.
Sometimes we reach a verdict. Sometimes the question gets more interesting.
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~ Kate & KJ
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Hero or Dick
S3, Ep. 1 - Hero or Dick - The Super Bowl
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Welcome to Season 3 of HERO OR DICK!
From using barbecue sauce as a ketchup stand-in to the evolution of Super Bowl halftime shows, Kate & KJ cover many topics related to America's most watched TV event.
Discover how Super Bowl ticket prices have skyrocketed from $12 to $5,000, and speculate on future AI officiating as they debate the role of cheerleaders in today's game.
Whether you're placing bets on the coin toss or just here for the halftime show, this episode is packed with entertaining insights and football banter.
Thanks, as always for listening!
~ Kate & KJ
Super Bowl and Food Banter
Speaker 2Okay hello , greetings , happy .
Speaker 1Happy New Year . This is the last day you can say it . Happy New Year , merry Christmas . Too late , too late Too late , too slow .
Speaker 2This is episode .
Speaker 1Episode 1 of Season 3 .
Speaker 2Oh shit , she pulled it out .
Speaker 1I did Because it's true Season 3 , new Year 2025 .
Speaker 2I gotta remember that and this is our first episode . Then you're still gonna get the background noise .
Speaker 1Oh no , you're not , we don't hear it , you don't hear it , you don't hear it .
Speaker 2Sitting here with a heater . Lots of traffic outside , a lot of fans standing out there waving at us , kate's banging the table and we each have a blanket Because it's freezing . It's not freezing .
Speaker 1I do have my coat on , but it's not freezing , it's okay .
Speaker 2Alright , we've got to catch people up real quick . Ham , the beauty of ham .
Speaker 1The beauty of ham . You could do a whole show on ham .
Speaker 2as far as I'm concerned , we should have done that today .
Speaker 1We were just talking about delicious ham over the Christmas season and how it keeps giving , because in a lot of different ways . Well , you're gonna have ham a lot of different ways . You just got potatoes and ham , or should just have ham with potatoes , maybe yeah and sandwiches . I put ham in a cheese ball . Uh ham with cheese and crackers , the smoothie , the ham smoothie .
Speaker 2Yeah , cream cheese and ham , you just blend them up .
Speaker 1Well , that's like cheese ball .
Speaker 2Put it in a ball , oh , that's right , Boom . But you know they also give in other ways Bloatedness .
Speaker 1Oh yeah .
Speaker 2At night .
Speaker 1It can keep your partner warm , if you know what I mean If you make them with the beans too , you know and there is a difference .
Speaker 2We had this discussion off air , but I didn't think we should bring it on air because I didn't want to disrupt the relationship with any of our sponsors .
Speaker 1But then you're doing it anyway .
Speaker 2It matters between cheap ham and good ham . Oh yeah , you gotta buy , you gotta spend a little extra the 12 cent per pound stuff you might get at Meijer . That's Meijer brand .
Speaker 1It's too salty and too pressed , whatever that stuff is in there . It's like it's pressed together from ham parts .
Speaker 2Yeah , ham parts .
Speaker 1You need to buy the ham on the bone . Yes , yeah . Okay , that's all I have to say about ham .
Speaker 2I got to go back because I've been getting some flack from my family . I made a comment about Easy Cheese . Oh and how Ham and cheese . The off-brand version isn't as good as the craft .
Speaker 1Yes , I disagreed .
Speaker 2And I apologize to my family because I got no Easy Cheese for Christmas .
Speaker 1None , oh , they're like fine , you're going to diss it , you're not getting any . Oh , that came back to bite in the ass .
Speaker 2I really love Easy Cheese and the brand . I really love Easy Cheese . I think maybe our next episode I'll get a couple different cans While we're on air and we'll try . Does that sound good ? Yeah , I love cheese , crackers and cheese and we'll just aerosol the cheese up and give her hell .
Speaker 1Do we have to put it on crackers ? Can we just put it in her mouth ? Yeah we could do that .
Speaker 2Put it on some celery Like ready whip . That's not delicious . Oh yeah , Whippets All right .
Speaker 1Okay , so that's food . You know it was a big food season . We have so many cookies left that I'm going to be really sad when I can't just grab a cookie . If you want to get rid of some of those , all right , I got some in the car , I . I mean , they're not even homemade ones , I don't care . Oh yeah , and sometimes the ones that are not homemade are better than the ones that are homemade .
Speaker 2Sorry , depends on what home they're made in , I guess .
Speaker 1I guess . So you don't know what's going in the batter , you don't the dough .
Speaker 2And I used to take a whole day and make cookies and fudge and now I don't , yeah , well , don't you worry about that in general , with food where it's made .
Speaker 1If you go to a potluck , you're asking for trouble . It will be delicious , it will be .
Speaker 2But what did you eat ?
Speaker 1Yeah , do you have cats you ?
Speaker 2know , I don't know . It's always a little sketchy , like you don't know , about the kid at Ponderosa who's pissed off about his job . Yeah , too-y , too-y , flicking a booger in there .
Speaker 1Oh , I dropped it on the floor . It's fine , put it back up there .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's fine , jeez .
Speaker 1All right , so we actually have a topic .
Speaker 2Yes .
Speaker 1We do for season three episode one and our topic is the Super Bowl . Oh yeah , yeah , it's that season coming up In about a month , I think is the game .
Speaker 2How about those Lions .
Speaker 1The Lions won last night . In that , Gibbs . What's his first name ? Jamar ?
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Jamar Gibbs . Jamar , yeah , jamar , he is a wonder , he's only 22 years old .
Speaker 2Four touchdowns .
Speaker 1Four touchdowns .
Speaker 2I think he rushed for over a thousand yards this yes , yeah , yeah , he hit over a thousand he , he's got potential . Well , he already , he already has .
Speaker 1I think he's like he's only 22 , I mean , he's just a baby and to do all of that , and with a smile on his face , and still be polite and not cocky . He's not a dick , he's a hero .
Speaker 2He takes a beating too .
Speaker 1He's a hero . Oh man , he got hit a couple times hard . Yeah , he kind of laid on the ground .
Speaker 2I thought that game would be closer .
Speaker 1Well , it was for a while and then no then it wasn't Good stuff .
Speaker 2I don't want to jinx it . We know it could happen .
Speaker 1Well , it could happen and they are actually a fact in the Super Bowl facts . What is it ? Because the Lions are the only team that hasn't won a Super Bowl .
Speaker 2What ? No , there's more than that .
Speaker 1Of the NFC . They're the only NFC team . Okay . In the AFC Cleveland Browns , jacksonville Jaguars and Houston Texans , which those aren't even real teams . Come on , oh boy , they haven't won a Super Bowl . But Jacksonville Jaguars how long have they been a team ?
Speaker 2A while 20 years . Maybe you think I'm making that up . No , I just . They had Maurice Jones Drew . He was an excellent running back . No , no , excellent enough . I might see the Browns win someday .
Speaker 1They've been around forever . I think they were part of the original . Do you have the list of the originals , because I didn't get that .
Speaker 2It's like the bears , the lions , the browns .
Speaker 1I didn't check this fact either , but how many had to change your names ? Probably Because you had the Washington Redskins and they're not Redskins anymore . Maybe they were named after a potato .
Speaker 2We don't know . They didn't have a potato on the helmet , though .
Speaker 1That would have been awesome . We're all having Redskins after the game .
Speaker 2Yeah , that was the Redskins and Cowboys . I know it's terrible .
Speaker 1And Cowboys , but it was always a good rivalry . Is that still okay ?
Speaker 2I don't know , probably not , probably not . What about Patriots ? Is that okay , patriots ? Lions , that's pretty , offensive Bears , that's a little risque . Are you a bear ? Maybe I don't know . I'm a Bears fan .
Speaker 1I mean you can offend anybody .
Speaker 2The Kansas City Chiefs ? See , I don't think they're , I'm pissing people off right now .
Speaker 1I don't know . We'll have to look and see if I don't think they're called the Chiefs anymore . Packers .
Speaker 2What are they packing ? What are they packing ? It's meat . They're meat packers . They're meat packers . They really are .
Speaker 1Is that why they were called the Packers ?
Speaker 2Yeah , oh , no shit .
Speaker 1They're packing the meat , do it . All right , okay , so that was down further on my list , but when ?
Speaker 2was the first game 1967 .
Speaker 1Yeah , in January , and it was the Green Bay Packers versus the Kansas City Chiefs .
Speaker 2Yep , we'll have to edit that out later . Yeah , versus Kansas .
Speaker 1City . You know what I didn't write ? Who won ? Who won that game ? We don't know .
Speaker 2Probably the Packers , because the Lombardi Trophy is named after Vince Lombardi , the old coach of the Packers . That's what they give away when you win the Super Bowl .
Speaker 1The Lombardi Trophy . Is that the trophy ?
Speaker 2I just know you get some rings and a trip to Disney .
Speaker 1Do they still get that ? I don't think so .
Speaker 2That was always weird .
Speaker 1I'm going to Disneyland . Could you take a shower first ?
Speaker 2Right . They get cars too , don't they , when they win ?
Speaker 1They get a lot of prizes , but you know they worked all year . I guess Whatever they get a lot of prizes , but you know they worked all year , I guess Whatever they get some cash money Back in the day these guys actually had .
Speaker 2they were meatpackers . They were like they had full-time jobs and then played ball and then played football . And they would smoke cigarettes on the sideline . I mean , like these guys were like .
Speaker 1They're heavy duty .
Speaker 2They were probably doing shots and cigarettes In the 60s you could still do that , you could still drink all day Like a madman . Joe Namath . He was famous . The first playboy .
Speaker 1Oh , he was .
Speaker 2Broadway , joe , he would party all the time .
Speaker 1He was a Jets . I believe Was he in the Jets . I think they won the Super Bowl too . I don't know .
Speaker 2They won yesterday in their game that meant nothing .
Speaker 1It was actually . It was first called before . It was a Super Bowl . It had the very cumbersome name of AFL NFL World Championship Game , and then somebody went let's just call it the Super Bowl . Yeah , you know well who . Who said that ?
Speaker 2Yeah , who said it ? Lamar Hunt . He was the owner of the kansas city chiefs and he was inspired by a toy called the super ball . Oh , I don't make this stuff up .
Speaker 1Wow , comes from very reliable sources I do know it was the third game or the yeah , the third super bowl when they decided to start calling it the super bowl and then they retroactively said , well , we'll just call those first two the Super Bowl one and two . And so the Super Bowl that's happening on 2-5-25 is number 59 . Super Bowl February 5th is when the Super Bowl is coming up .
Speaker 2Are you betting on the game ?
Speaker 1I usually do . You know why ? Because I like football . I've got nothing against it , but I'm not a huge fan . I
Football Players and Betting Banter
Speaker 1like football . I got nothing against it , but I'm not a huge fan , and so when I was working , I started a Super Bowl pool and just sold squares for a dollar 100 squares for a dollar , did you keep 50 cents for yourself ? I did not , but I won a couple times and people were mad about that I'm like how could I rig this game ? Yeah , it was me .
Speaker 1It was you it was me making the Packers win .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1And then you won $25 at the end of each quarter . If I went into overtime , sorry you're fucked , but it was fun , because then you gave me a reason to watch it and it's like , oh , kim's winning , oh you know whatever . And we did have somebody win like three quarters one time . That was kind of fun , yeah .
Speaker 2That's really cool .
Speaker 1But since I haven't been working , I'm not out and about to sell the square .
Speaker 2What so ?
Speaker 1I haven't done it .
Speaker 2You're out and about . Don't lie to me .
Speaker 1I'm not , but I'm not . It was kind of like I could just do it at work .
Speaker 2Did you ?
Speaker 1get new glasses again . Could just do it at work . Did you get new glasses again ? No , these are just cheaters . Oh , I like those . I have like a hundred pairs of cheaters .
Speaker 2Nice , you always switch it up . But yeah , man , I want to get into something like that . I haven't done that in years .
Speaker 1Super Bowl . No , the Squares , oh the Squares . I could buy you a Super Bowl .
Speaker 2Maybe I'll just do it online , fanduel .
Speaker 1FanDuel is is a big one . What was the other one ? I saw MGM .
Speaker 2I don't know .
Speaker 1MGM , I think is a big one . There's so many things you can bet on too . You can bet on If someone's shoe falls off . Yes , basically , With a coin toss , there's just a million things you can bet on , Not just a score . I think the way you make the most money if you're in it for money , which every gambler is is you do the point spread . But I'm not . I don't know how that works . I don't know enough about it .
Speaker 2to do that , you just need to use Chet GVT and figure it out for you .
Speaker 1Over $23 billion is placed on bets .
Speaker 2What if everybody put that money toward curing cancer ? Great , Isn't that weird how we just don't do that . Let's just throw it away , Like for one year . If you could get half of the population to say let's give a dollar , we're just not worried .
Speaker 1Well , when you're president , you can do that .
Speaker 2Yeah , okay , that you're president , you can do that , yeah , okay , that's all I'm saying .
Speaker 1Okay , and there's 67.8 million people bet and they're betting that $23 billion . Okay .
Speaker 2That's a lot of numbers , yeah .
Speaker 1I know I see you At the moment I'm thinking yeah , Thinking what team has played the most . Would it be Patriots ? Yeah , yeah , because Tom Brady plays for them .
Speaker 2Yeah , ten times he's got the most MVP awards Five , ten appearances .
Speaker 1How do you feel about Tom Brady ?
Speaker 2I like him sometimes , I mean , he's from .
Speaker 1Michigan .
Speaker 2I think that's what his ex-wife said I mean , come on , what's that ?
Speaker 1I said I think that's what his ex-wife said .
Speaker 2I like him . Sometimes Forty-some years old , he played until he was and he treated the old , supposedly Treated the body like a temple kind of thing , didn't put garbage into it . And he treated the body like a temple kind of thing , didn't put garbage into it and it kind of paid off .
Speaker 1It paid off for him .
Speaker 2I'm going to go off topic .
Speaker 1All right , I'm sorry . Not about the Super Bowl .
Speaker 2About football though .
Speaker 1Okay .
Speaker 2And someone who's played in a Super Bowl , aaron Rodgers , who was a quarterback for the Green Bay Packers . There's a documentary on Netflix called Aaron Rodgers .
Speaker 1The .
Speaker 2Enigma and it's actually quite good . Oh , he is an enigma , he's a spacey dude man , like he was having trouble with the Packers , yada , yada , yada , transitioning , getting older , still stayed in great shape , decided that what he needed to do was go to Costa Rica and get on Ayusca , go on an Ayusca trip , you know , and it's just phenomenal how this supposedly changed his life and all this stuff .
Speaker 1I'm just saying , okay , I get a chance all right , aaron rogers check the documentary there was also a really good documentary about mary sanders yes and I knew of him but I didn't know all about him . And he quit when he was in his prime because he's like you know I don't want to die from this and I'm doing okay . My kids are cool .
Speaker 2I'm gonna quit and everybody's like what pissed everyone off ?
Speaker 1oh my god , everybody hated him for a guy making his own decision .
Speaker 2He didn't break jim's from jim brown's record . He could have been the only person but and the weird thing though , watching that he's a nice guy and all but what a sleepy mofo he's like , mr .
Speaker 1He's very laid back yeah he's like super laid back .
Speaker 2He must have been on high .
Speaker 1And for a football player , you'd think they'd have to get , you know , worked up . Now I want to mention one other football player while we're off topic of the Super Bowl . I do not know if he has been in the Super Bowl , but Billy Sims .
Speaker 2We need to check and see who I loved Billy Sims .
Speaker 1Well , he has the best barbecue sauce in the world .
Speaker 2Does he really ?
Speaker 1In the world . I've tried a lot . I don't like ketchup , I like barbecue sauce . Billy , you know what you're doing .
Speaker 2Billy Sims , billy Sims barbecue sauce and run I saw when he got his hip screwed up .
Speaker 1That was it .
Speaker 2And then he said fucking , I'm going to barbecue sauce four years and then said yeah , let's make some .
Speaker 1I don't know , but I hope he's making money off of it because it is delicious
Super Bowl Halftime Show Banter
Speaker 1. Uh , I buy it locally , just set like a meyer billy sims probably at wal . You can probably buy it online . So if I can get it , it's readily available . I mean , I live in BFE .
Speaker 2What's the weirdest thing ? You put barbecue sauce on , or like people would be , like what the ?
Speaker 1gate . No , I just use it instead of ketchup .
Speaker 2I don't like ketchup , so you use it on fries .
Speaker 1Fries and burgers .
Speaker 2Hot dogs , burgers , hot dogs what's the weirdest ? People catch up on everything .
Speaker 1I like it on a taco Eggs .
Speaker 2Taco On a taco , that's nice .
Speaker 1Yeah , it is nice , I don't like not on eggs , no , I'm kind of hungry too .
Speaker 2Back to your friend Barry Sanders , who didn't play in a Super Bowl .
Speaker 1One thing that Super Bowls have a lot of is the dancing , the celebratory .
Speaker 2Dancing super bowls have a lot of is the dancing and the the celebratory dancing and the you know how .
Speaker 1What's your stance on players celebrating ? I think you know they earn it and do a little dance . But I think I think this actually happened that it got out of control and they were hiring choreographers and it was just it was lasting longer than you know it should . So I thought they nipped it in the bud and said don't do that .
Speaker 2But now I see they're doing it a little bit . And one thing Barry Sanders never did he never showboated , he handed the ball to the ref . Yes , and that's it , because he's a class act . I miss that stuff .
Speaker 1I did see that Gibbs after a second he threw the ball in the stands .
Speaker 2Yep Probably got fined for that .
Speaker 1Really yeah , oh .
Speaker 2He's probably like fuck it , I don't care , I like him .
Speaker 1And then whoever caught it and got that ball was very happy about it , so he made someone's day .
Speaker 2Yeah , and he probably put it on eBay today , probably what team has lost the most Super Bowls ?
Speaker 1Oh , I don't know right offhand , because I have messy , messy notes .
Speaker 2Broncos , oh the . Broncos really they used to be my favorite team . You didn't like the Broncos . You lived in Denver , didn't you ?
Speaker 1I did not . I have relatives in Colorado Same thing . Yeah , they were very Bronco-ish , Like they painted their faces one time . I think that's going a little overboard .
Speaker 2What do you know about the cities that have hosted the Super Bowl the most ?
Speaker 1Well , miami . I know has hosted the most . Do you think it's because it's warm there .
Speaker 2I don't know . I don't know why it is warm there .
Speaker 1It is , and this year it's in New Orleans , so they have some challenges going on there .
Speaker 2You know , we should have looked up . Oh yeah , how are they going to do that ?
Speaker 1Well , they say , they can do it .
Speaker 2We should have researched this , but maybe one of our listeners will email us at heroordick2023 at gmailcom . That's it . How do they make that decision ? Is it the commission , like the ?
Speaker 1group of owners . I don't know who gets to make that decision , but they know well in advance . Like next year , the 60th one is in California , like San Diego or San Francisco , San Diego .
Speaker 2I think I believe it . Los Angeles , I think it's somewhere . No , it's probably San Diego .
Speaker 1Maybe it's LA , I don't know , but it's in California . And the winners if you win the Super Bowl , you get bank man . You get a ring worth like $35,000 . Okay , so you're going to wear that to the grocery store . Yeah , $1,000 . Okay , so you're going to wear that to the grocery store . Yeah , you get a bonus . You get like a 200 . This year it's like 200K , which is probably peanuts to them . Whatever , it's a nice little bonus , but I mean they can buy a car or something .
Speaker 2Yeah , donate it .
Speaker 1Give some money to their baby mamas .
Speaker 2Buy some barbecue sauce .
Speaker 1It's a sort some barbecue sauce , start a barbecue sauce and you know I thought what was interesting is losers get a lot too .
Speaker 2Yeah they do .
Speaker 1They get a bonus of almost $100,000 . They actually get a ring , I think the loser ring . Yeah , I don't want that . And everyone gets a participation medal . Like you're in second grade , good job , everyone nice . Everyone gets a participation medal . Like you're in second grade , good job , everyone gets a medal . That's why we're playing , you know what ?
Speaker 2else they else get though .
Speaker 1What else get ?
Speaker 2It's my stroke kicking back in the oh , it really ups their stock If you make it to a Super Bowl the next year . Other teams are looking at you , especially coaching staffs . I think they feel bad .
Speaker 1Coaching staffs and players , for sure , but they also just a paraphernalia . It's not called paraphernalia , it's called . That's after the game the merchandise Right , merch , all the merchandise and everything can be merchandise anymore . I mean they make Bobblehead dolls . Oh , of course , jerseys , jerseys , shoes , I mean anything . Clothing , including underwear , and stupid stuff . Budweiser is the biggest Commercial .
Speaker 2Advertiser . Well , you know what I mean the teams . They all get little team . What the fuck am I trying to say ? Team themed beer , you know , like the Detroit Lion cans . Oh , so they make like the yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1That's got to be a lot of money right there , Budweiser . Well , we'll talk about ads in a minute , but they do the most advertising over the years . What else do we want to say about the winners and the losers ? I don't know .
Speaker 2Okay .
Speaker 1I think we're good . Alright halftime shows . Let's talk about that it started out with always was a marching band , da-da-da , which was traditional . Then in the 90s . In the 90s , the headliners started showing up . Some of them were very 90s Gloria , estefan , clint Black , new Kids on the Block , but then they got Michael Jackson . That was a big thing , yep . And then they had Nipplegate what year was that ?
Speaker 2That was 2004 . And if you're not familiar with that , that's when Justin Tibergly rip her booby sock off . He ripped her something . Yeah , did you watch that ?
Speaker 1I was watching that with my daughter , who was young .
Speaker 2They bleeped it right On the live thing ? I don't think so . During my research I watched the thing again and they did it in slow motion that kind of looked all like it was choreographed .
Speaker 1It was staged , oh yeah .
Speaker 2It was totally staged Like why would you want to show your tit to the whole ?
Speaker 1world . Well , I think it was a falsie . Whatever , I don't know it still looked like one . I don't know why you would want to do it , but people are still talking about it , so maybe that's why you want to do it .
Speaker 2Glad we're not talking about it it 2012 , mia . They sing that really cool song about paper planes or whatever . Remember that . She flipped off the camera , oh she did During a performance .
Speaker 1Why would she do that ? She's not just an angry person , she's raging against the machine Kate . I like rage against the machine .
Speaker 2I do too . Oh , you think they would do the show .
Speaker 1No , no , rolling Stones did a gaga . My favorite , my personal favorite , was when Prince was on there . That guy was great , he was , he was fucking great , the most popular . I do In his honor . The most popular , though , was when Shakira and J-Lo were shaking their buns on there .
Speaker 2That's just a lot of ass shaking there .
Speaker 1That's a lot of butt .
Speaker 2That's too much butt for one stage .
Speaker 1And this year it's going to be Kendrick Lamar , and this year it's going to be Kendrick Lamar , and I can't tell you a thing about him , so you'll have to Google him on your own . Why ?
Speaker 2don't they have Pearl Jam on ? There Were they on there , no , but why don't they have them on ?
Speaker 1there they're kind of dated now .
Speaker 2Don't say that .
Speaker 1I'm saying it because it's true . I'm not saying I don't like them . My heart just dropped . Are they going to sing , daughter ? What are they going ?
Speaker 2to sing out there . Given to Fly would be a good one . Better man , better man . I'm with you , but they have Kendrick Lamar will be playing . And the .
Speaker 1Star Spangled Banner . Star Spangled Banner , which is the worst national song out of everybody's . It should be America the Beautiful , but it will be sung by John batiste , who is from louisiana . Who's that ? He was , uh , the , the band leader for colbert and then he left and he's huge . He's huge . You know who he is , hold , if I know who he is , you know who he is . He's okay . He's a very talented person .
Speaker 2I believe you and he's from Louisiana . What else you got about ?
Speaker 1Halftime . That's what else you got .
Speaker 2I got some mishaps about game day . But I don't want to get too far off track .
Speaker 1No , you can . That's all I have to say about the halftime shows . Do you remember ?
Speaker 2that in 2013 , there was a blackout for 34 minutes in the Mercedes-Benz Superdome . Really , I don't remember that . I don't remember that .
Speaker 1For that long I think . I kind of remember it , but I don't remember it being for half hour .
Speaker 2That's a long time what ?
Speaker 1happened .
Speaker 2I don't know , power went out Sabotage . No team ever played in their own home stadium until the Tampa Bay Buccaneers won in 2021 .
Speaker 1Well , of course they're going to win in their home thing . What's that Home arena ?
Speaker 2Well , of course they're going to win in their home thing , home arena Gatorade . Showers began in the 1980s with the little parcels , when they started winning the playoffs .
Speaker 1I don't like that either . You don't like it , I do not .
Speaker 2You don't like Gatorade , or you don't like the showers Both .
Speaker 1Okay , to me , gatorade is like drinking a block of salt and I get it .
Speaker 2It's electrolytes .
Speaker 1If you are an athlete , you probably need that Sure . I rarely need that .
Speaker 2Maybe if I have the flu , especially if you're eating ham .
Speaker 1I was drinking .
Speaker 2Propel Putting that shit back in my body . Yeah , speaking of health concerns , kate , what Research indicates that there's an increase in heart attacks around the Super Bowl because people get all jacked up ?
Speaker 1Because they're adrenaline and they're excited and it's cold out and they shovel snow and then they die .
Speaker 2But what ?
Speaker 1about . See , I've heard that this is a thing , but then I've heard it's not that there is more physical abuse hey , Domestic abuse yes , that's what I found too . But then I've heard that's not that there is more physical abuse hey , Domestic abuse yes , that's what I found too , but then I've heard that's a myth .
Speaker 2Well , wives get pretty mad at their husbands during this time , and they beat the shit out of them as they should . That's what they should do .
Speaker 1But that's probably not what happens .
Speaker 2But guys get , it's just drunk People get drunk and do stupid shit , Come on .
Speaker 1Put your shirt on . Okay , let's talk about ads . The most famous , iconic one is , in 1980 , mean Joe Green in the Coca-Cola .
Speaker 2Yeah , with the kid he was looking at you kid .
Speaker 1No , hey , kid Catch .
Speaker 2Same . Thing .
Speaker 1He was looking at you .
Speaker 2That's that one dude . He was looking at you , kid .
Speaker 1That's Humphrey Bogart from Casablanca .
Speaker 2That's not Mean Joe Green , that is not Mean Joe Green .
Speaker 1That's like the opposite of Mean Joe Green .
Speaker 2What team did he play for ?
Speaker 1He played for the Pittsburgh Steelers you are well-researched . I am . I knew that right off the top of my head . Nice job it had Lynn Swann , Franco they got grit .
Speaker 2Who does the Lions ?
Speaker 1Well , yeah , that's what they said about the Lions . Pittsburgh Steelers . Terry Bradshaw oh , that guy's crazy now , though , because he got hit too many times .
Speaker 2I like him . What about the commercials ?
Speaker 1Some other famous ones that were debuted at the Super Bowl is Where's the Beef ? The Bud Bowl .
Speaker 2Wendy's .
Speaker 1The E-Trade babies that the 1984 apple commercial really kicked it off did it yeah , it did , which I never really got that commercial I was 11 uh , brager , 1993 was space jam and um , space jam , space jam , the movie , oh yeah , yeah . And then in 2011 , I thought this one was very clever the VW with the kid dressed up like Star Wars the Force and he thought he was commanding the VW and it was really appearance with the remote .
Speaker 1I liked that one and , as we mentioned before , budweiser , has done the most advertising . They probably make the most money out of it .
Speaker 2They sell 50 million cases of beer on Super Bowl weekend .
Speaker 1Good for them .
Speaker 2I don't even know what to say about that .
Speaker 1I don't like . Budweiser is what I'm going to say .
Speaker 2Super Bowl Sunday is the second largest day for food consumption in the United States Nachos , man , chicken , wings pizza , ketchup tacos .
Speaker 1Ketchup tacos ? That's not a thing . Guacamole , oh , guacamole yeah . You can buy avocados , this for the next two or three weeks for a good price . Yeah , I love Guam .
Speaker 2Chicken wings were on sale at Meijer Regular $17.99 for $7.99 . Wow , I'm not kidding you , they're getting ready . I got two bags , did you ? And Brooke said why we already have a bag . Get them .
Speaker 1Get them while you can , they're frozen right ?
Speaker 2I hope , yeah , Yep you got it ?
Speaker 1Yeah , all right , duly noted , all right . So anything else you want to add to Super Bowl ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I want to keep talking about it . All right , do
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Speaker 2it . The ticket cost oh , I bet that's risen . The first Super Bowl was 12 bucks , but how much was that back then ?
Speaker 1I mean , can we look that up ?
Speaker 2Where's Nathan ? I'll look it up . Oh , I can't Believe it or not , but now they're $5,000 for standard seats .
Speaker 1Oh shit , that's a lot .
Speaker 2And when I thought , okay , $12 , but back in 1967 , $12 was probably about $375 .
Speaker 1Well , let's see In 1967 ? Yeah Is worth today $113.35 . Very reasonable , yeah , Really In 67 , not too bad it's . Very reasonable . Yeah , really it's a big difference from $5,000 . And $5,000 , that's for the standing .
Speaker 2That's for the seats , so anyway .
Speaker 1They make a lot of money . Somebody does , who's they , I don't know , but somebody's making some money .
Speaker 2I don't know if this is still correct , but this is the reason they're probably making so much money , aside from selling seats is that the Super Bowl holds the record for the most watched television event in history 114 million people watched it . Wow , there's got to be somebody watching more . That was 2015 is the last thing I could find because I got an old computer .
Speaker 1Well , no , that sounds right . Anything else yes , kate , oh my gosh , I like football , we else . Yes , kate , oh my gosh .
Speaker 2I like football . We're running long on time .
Speaker 1I like football too .
Speaker 2But listen back to the betting thing Okay . The team that wins the coin toss has a record of 25 wins , 33 losses and 57 Super Bowls .
Speaker 1And see , that's something you could bet on right there .
Speaker 2Yep and from 2014 to 2022 , the teams that won the coin toss lost the game eight times in a row .
Speaker 1That's all I got . Everybody . Have a good night , Okay . Well , I just want to say I had a good segue for one of your things when you said however many million people watch that game . Is that when I have to choose hero or dick , I would say hero because it kind of brings all fat Americans together for one night .
Speaker 2To get fatter .
Speaker 1To get fatter , to eat food and root your team on , but please be polite . If your team doesn't win , don't be a dick . Love one another .
Speaker 2That's all I am practicing . One of my Wait . No , you were the one that was going to be nicer .
Speaker 1I started mindfulness yesterday mindfulness , kate , like right now all I'm focusing on is the microphone .
Speaker 2Too much caffeine and your new glasses and put your phone down don't look at your phone while you're talking to me .
Speaker 1thank you . Let's do our fast fives , okay , because they're football related too .
Speaker 2Wait , superhero , oh yeah . What do you say ? Superhero ? Superhero or super dick ? That's a hero . Yeah , I'm not going to be some negative .
Speaker 1It's all commercialized Well it is and there , yeah , it's fun . But overall I say Hero , how about referees ? What do you think ?
Speaker 2I think Hero is oh my gosh .
Speaker 1That referee last night on the Lions who they play the Vikings . He was so calm and so together the whole game .
Speaker 2Dude , I don't know their signs , so their hand signs , but he goes home and kicks his dog probably well , I want to say too there's a lot of damn rules with this game , yeah .
Speaker 1And just when you think you know them all , it's like no , you can't do that because my mother's hair was in curlers in 1973 and we made that rule . So all right , heroes .
Speaker 2Heroes Tough job .
Speaker 1How about Instant Replay ? Although I wrote it down as Instance Replay , is it ?
Speaker 2Instant Replay oh , instance , instance , same thing . It says Incense , incense . Replay I like those too .
Speaker 1You know that's a tough one .
Speaker 2It is heroic because it can really save a game .
Speaker 1It has . Just think when they didn't have it .
Speaker 2Yeah , a lot of dickish things happened .
Speaker 1There was a lot of referees probably weren't the heroes .
Speaker 2They were Getting paid and they probably .
Speaker 1I'm guessing they like the instant replay because it makes their jobs easier .
Speaker 2Yep .
Speaker 1How can you see everything that's going on ?
Speaker 2Mm-hmm , good point .
Speaker 1So I'll say hero on that .
Speaker 2I probably won't even need refs one day with the cameras and AI , it'll just be AI . Yeah , and will you need players ? No , we'll just operate it With your mind .
Speaker 1I'm thinking about it now . Alright , how about challenge flag ? I think that's cool too . I do too , I agree . How about cheerleaders ? I could that's cool too . I do too , I agree . How about cheerleaders ? Uh , I could care less . Actually I don't think they're needed anymore . Sorry , cheerleaders I'm not saying they're male or female or they're not dead , but you know what wait ?
Speaker 2I stop because you know a lot of those cheerleaders are like teachers and that's not a full-time job for some of them well , okay , but does that make them that make it okay ? I don't know I don't know either I will give cheerleaders this .
Speaker 1It is the most physical sport out there , I mean they're getting thrown up in the air .
Speaker 2They're coming down , hopefully somebody showed the cheerleaders doing that . They don't show them anymore .
Speaker 1But and uh , I just caught a glimpse of the cheerleaders on camera last night . They have full-out sweatsuits on . They're not shaking their DNA . This is 2025 . So I'm so not into dicks .
Speaker 2Okay .
Speaker 1And then how about expansion on TV ? Because it's on every channel . It's not just Monday night football or Sunday football , it is every night , sunday , monday , thursday , saturday . Saturday , saturday night , sunday . Whenever they want to have it Whenever we feel like having it . I guess , I don't know , it doesn't matter to me .
Speaker 2It doesn't matter to me .
Speaker 1I'll say it's dickish ?
Speaker 2I don't know . I mean say it's dickish .
Speaker 1I don't know . I mean , I don't know , I don't really care .
Speaker 2You got to say something .
Speaker 1Well , I'll say Hero , okay . Yeah , sounds great . More channels , more people can watch it , maybe . Okay . So , overall , pretty much Heroes . But we are big fat Americans who like our football . Yes , even people like me who aren't into football still like my football .
Speaker 2I was so proud of you when you came in today and you pushed everyone aside here in the studio .
Speaker 1You're like I watched football last night . I'm playing football , you watched it . I would never play it . Oh my god , I don't think I'd let my kid play football .
Speaker 2I know we didn't let Julian play , so goes .
Speaker 1Will you let Jovi play ?
Speaker 2Yep .
Speaker 1But not Julian . Yep , she could be a kicker , I bet She'd be a good kicker .
Speaker 2She could be a good runner Run with the ball yeah .
Speaker 1Be a quarterback , well , but then sometimes you get hit that will be interesting when the NFL because there's female refs now . Yes , I didn't see any last night , that's right , we did .
Speaker 2They will have some from the Super .
Speaker 1Bowl . Oh , I bet they will . They've got to get their representation . I bet they will .
Speaker 2And that's great . But the day will be really cool if you do see a woman playing quarterback in football .
Speaker 1That would be . We'll see if we live to see that day . We won't . No , I don't think so . I'm going to have a president who's a woman .
Speaker 2Alright , reel it back in . Okay , I know you're excited to talk about the inauguration , but we better get off the air . No , no , no .
Speaker 1Okay , alright . Thanks everyone for listening . Bye-bye .
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