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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick - S3., Ep. 2 - The Complex World of Cows and Cheese Showdown
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Welcome to another episode of Hero or Dick!
This time around, we explore the world of bovines! And...Cheese lovers, brace yourselves. In honor of our milk-producing friends, we pit two cans of spray cheese against each other in a blind taste test. But it’s not all fun and games. We tackle the ethics of cow consumption, the $66 billion beef industry, and the rise of plant-based alternatives. It’s a fast-paced mix of humor, reflection, and surprising facts about cows and our connection to them.
Thanks for listening!
~ Kate & KJ
Cows
Speaker 1Yeah , welcome to season two . Or season three Of what Episode two ?
Speaker 2Hero or Dick ? Yeah , that's it . Yeah , Hero or Dick , it's yeah that's what it is .
Speaker 1We're just shooting the bull here .
Speaker 2Ha , ha , oh , because our topic today is cows , cows . Which have many names .
Speaker 1They do they do ? Oh , have many names . They do they do . Oh , you mean types of cows .
Speaker 2Well , no , just cows . So there's cows which are really mature female cattle that have given birth once .
Speaker 1Those are cows . What are the ones that haven't given birth ?
Speaker 2They are . There's something Heifer , heifer , sorry , yeah .
Speaker 1What are the dudes ?
Speaker 2Bulls . They are mature males used for breeding .
Speaker 1Hey , speaking of breeding and back to the whole , once they have a calf thing they're called what now Cows after they ?
Speaker 2have Cows after they have .
Speaker 1What's the gestation period for one of those low bastards ?
Speaker 2It's a long time , 297 days . Wow , somewhere , or one of those low bastards . That's a long time , 297 days .
Speaker 1Wow , that's a long time Nine months and ten days oh .
Speaker 2I guess humans are nine months . Humans .
Speaker 1Those bastards . I hate them . Humans love to eat those cows , they do , and drink the milk , yeah , and make things out of them .
Speaker 2Are you a milk drinker ? I like milk . I love that people up north here say milk , milk , yeah , like it's a E . No , it's milk .
Speaker 1Milk Kittle Instead of kettle Kittle , kittle , bat trees , bat trees , chimley , chimley . What the hell is that ?
Speaker 2A chimney oh .
Speaker 1Chimley . All right , Thanks everyone .
Speaker 2And we'll get hate mail .
Speaker 1No , we won't .
Speaker 2Because I don't know how to email . Yeah , but also one more is instead of a pillow , it's a pallo .
Speaker 1But we could do a whole episode on that .
Speaker 2We really could , why don't we ? We will , let's switch ?
Speaker 1We will , no , not right now . They domesticated these things like 10,000 years ago in the Fertile Crescent .
Speaker 2They're very docile , so I imagine they didn't give up much of the fight . No , they brought them over .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , alright , who were those people that came over Jamestown ? Pilgrims ? The Pilgrims Is that what they would call them . I don't know what are we calling them .
Speaker 2Everybody has a new name , so I'm not keeping up with all of them .
Speaker 1Can you even say Pilgrim anymore ? I ? Don't know Anyway that's where the first one apparently came . 1614? . Did it come over on a boat ? It must have . Don't try to swim , I'm sorry . I . I'm sorry .
Speaker 2I'm salty today , kate , I'm going to bring it up here .
Speaker 1It's a long-ass swim . So yeah , so cows , heifers bulls and a steer is a male that's castrated and unable to reproduce Castrated , right there .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's painful to say . It must be even worse to happen .
Speaker 1What do you mean , castorate ? Get it done . I had that done . You got castorated Instead of a vasectomy . She's just like take it all off .
Speaker 2Castorate him . You were unable to reproduce .
Speaker 1Did it .
Speaker 2Behind Walmart a guy does it Saturday evenings .
Speaker 1The castrating yeah , it's a van , white van . It's like an ice cream truck during the day , but then he does castrations . It's cheap . You leave with a tube of Neosporin and you're good to go . One billion cows in this world .
Speaker 2Wow , that's a lot of cows .
Speaker 1Yeah , 93 million in the United States . However , it's the lowest it's ever been since 1952 .
Speaker 2Because more people are vegetarians .
Speaker 1Maybe , or the UFOs . Are taking the cows , I'm just saying .
Speaker 2They do like to beam up the cows they what them ?
Speaker 1Beam them up , they beam them up they also . They're heavy , though they do stuff on them . We talked about that before , I believe that it's alarming . Well , it's a phenomenon all over the world .
Speaker 2I don't know what it is Do they beam them back down ?
Speaker 1I don't know if they beam anything . I think they keep them .
Speaker 2Do they keep them ? I don't know , the humans who claim to be beamed up came back down because it's so weird about it , or did they ?
Speaker 1Oh , Maybe that's not them . Oh my gosh .
Speaker 2Anyway , that's a whole other subject . What did ?
Speaker 1they say oh , Michigan has 1.2 million cows . That's where we live in Michigan , by the way , folks .
Speaker 2That's a lot of cows .
Speaker 1Yeah , and so how ?
Speaker 2many do you think ? I think in Michigan there's a lot of dairy cows . I'm just guessing .
Speaker 1You're damn right . That's what's here . Dairy Texas 13 million cows .
Speaker 2Oh Well , they have more room , they have a lot of room .
Speaker 1Your favorite state , Nebraska .
Speaker 2And then Kansas .
Speaker 1Nothing against Nebraska and Oklahoma . They're huge for beef production .
Speaker 2A lot of grasslands , yeah , so that's all I have . That's it Boom . How many stomachs do they have ? Four , good .
Speaker 1What do they do with the second one ? The reticulum have four . Good , what do ? They do with the second one , uh , the reticulum . First it goes into the ruminator or ruminant stomach and uh , then you know , it does a little digestion , then it goes into stomach number two and then it gets mixed with saliva and comes back up and that's why they chew cud oh , so then they vomit it up and chew it up and it goes back down .
Speaker 2So why wouldn't they continually do that ? Go to one go to two back up Special , but at some point it must go to stomach . Three , Three Digest some more .
Speaker 1Yep .
Speaker 2And then four , and then come out as cow patties . Mm-hmm , which kept pioneers ? If we can say that kept them alive , I think that's you can't say pioneers anymore . What Cow patties kept them alive ? Well , yeah , because they would gather the cow patties and burn them , dry them out and burn them .
Speaker 1No kidding .
Speaker 2I didn't even Google that fact and I didn't make it up either .
Speaker 1Wait a second Before we get too far , should we do our first hit ?
Speaker 2Well , we're speaking of dairy . Wait a second . Before we get too far , should we do our first hit ? Well , we're speaking of dairy . We have today two Easy Cheeses that we've spoke of before , and first I'm looking at the label of them . It's totally sketchy . And who thought of Easy Cheese ? I mean Some fucking genius ? Well , yeah , but it does say no need to refrigerate , which always makes me a little nervous . It's a dairy product this one is made with . It also says it's an excellent source
Comparing Cheese Snack Nutrition and Flavor
Speaker 2of calcium .
Speaker 1Let's compare some stuff . Alright , okay , yours is what the Nabisco .
Speaker 2Mine is the Nabisco Easy .
Speaker 1Cheese . It says it's made with real cheese . I should have brought a plate Right on the pike .
Speaker 2It's made American cheese . Pasteurized cheese snack .
Speaker 1Okay , so I have mine's , a Meijer brand and it's American snack cheese . It's pasteurized , but yours actually says made with real cheese . Mine doesn't say that .
Speaker 2No , mine says pasteurized cheese snack . Mine doesn't say that . No , mine says pasteurized cheese snack . How many ?
Speaker 1calories do you have in a serving oh ?
Speaker 2yeah , it does say made with real cheese . Exclamation mark Calories two tablespoons Calories 80 . 80 .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2Sodium Look at the sodium level . What do ?
Speaker 1you have 420 . 420 . 420 , 18% . It's the same damn thing what do you got for potassium in that , though Nice , healthy potassium .
Speaker 2Let's see , I don't have it listed maybe .
Speaker 1Why do you got to lie to me all the time ?
Speaker 2Vitamin D , calcium , oh , potassium 80 milligrams , oh , you got more .
Speaker 1How much calcium ? I only got 73 potassium Is that what you just said ? No , I said 80 , but no , you said calcium or potassium .
Speaker 2Potassium .
Speaker 1What do you have for calcium 260 . What Now , hold on here , folks . What do you have that is made with real cheese supposedly yes , I don't know what this is the calcium in this 94 .
Speaker 2Well , what's the ingredients list ?
Speaker 1Okay , ready ingredients list . Okay ready , yeah , no , yes , water , okay , cheese . Pasteurized milk cheese , culture , salt , enzymes , whey , soybean oil , modified food starch , sodium , phosphate , lactic acid , natural flavors , of course , salt , sodium , hexam , whatever sodium something .
Speaker 2So it does have cheese in it and does at the bottom does it say contains milk ?
Speaker 1Soy , milk , soy .
Speaker 2Milk and soy Mine says contains milk and it is basically the same ingredients list , only they start with whey .
Speaker 1Does yours say contains a bio engineered food ingredient ? Yes , it does . So that's the stuff that we're not . It's bad because it changes our makeup and makes us want things that we shouldn't want , like easy cheese . Oh fuck , sorry , pardon my French , it says right there made with real cheese . So yeah , for whatever reason , yours is healthier .
Speaker 2Neither one of them are healthy . Come on .
Speaker 1Look at this .
Speaker 2Here's what we're going to do You're going to close your eyes and I'm going to squirt cheese and you're going to guess which one is which .
Speaker 1Where are you squirting it ?
Speaker 2Open your mouth . I'm going to put it on a cracker , don't look , oh Christ .
Speaker 1Joby should have been here for this .
Speaker 2Oh , it came out kind of strong . Where is it ? Wait , don't look yet , oh easy cheese . Don't look yet , oh easy cheese .
Speaker 1You're not easy .
Speaker 2God damn it Once it comes out , the fuck . Okay , all right , now look .
Speaker 1Can I go ?
Speaker 2Yeah , you can look .
Speaker 1And you can go . Wait , I'm looking at it and they look pretty close . No , they don't . You don't think so . Holy shit , that was the real one . I can tell you right now .
Speaker 2Well , they're both real cheese . Well , let me .
Speaker 1I know that's a lot of cheese on there dude .
Speaker 2Well , once it started coming on .
Speaker 1So why am I doing this ? I'm an aficionado .
Speaker 2Because you're supposedly , yeah , the dude who knows . Okay , we'll let him crunch it down for a minute and I'll tell you about Easy Cheese . I think you know everything I know about Easy Cheese . If you don't know about easy cheese , it's the cheese in the can . Fyi . Does this say you can't , don't have to refrigerate ? It , I might be wrong cake yep , no refrigeration needed , so you can take it anywhere , okay .
Speaker 1Which the first one was .
Speaker 2Fake Off-brand , this brand yeah .
Speaker 1Okay , and the second one was the Nabisco .
Speaker 2You are incorrect . Son of a bitch , yeah .
Speaker 1Huh , now you , I mean I'm just going to do it .
Speaker 2Yeah , just do it , all right . Oh , that's not cool . What I don't gonna do it yeah just do it . What is that ? That's not cool .
Speaker 1What I don't think that's supposed to come out of the can .
Speaker 2I'm not eating that . Can you shake it ?
Speaker 1Maybe I need to . Let's give this to the dogs .
Speaker 2Don't forget to take that . Don't leave it here . I think we need to shake it up . You got a paper towel or something ? No , we have no supplies .
Speaker 1No , Nathan was supposed to . Kate is killing it here . Oh , we're losing listeners left and right .
Speaker 2Like we had any . Yeah , who cares ? Oh , that's watery , I'm not eating that .
Speaker 1Okay , ready .
Speaker 2Get rid of that cracker . Yeah I'll , I don't care .
Speaker 1I'll eat it .
Speaker 2Oh , you're brave . So it was coming out kind of watery and that doesn't look appetizing at all . It's a slow go , but look at how pretty it is . It's all squiggly , it's beautiful . This is the real easy cheese .
Speaker 1I hate it so much when people do that . I do too . Sorry , people Funny though , but you know what ? It's pretty delicious , oh , do too .
Speaker 2Sorry , people Funny though , but you know what ? It's pretty delicious . Oh and look at , they show it on a hot dog .
Speaker 1I've never had it on a hot dog , I'm going to put it on everything .
Speaker 2What else could you put it on Nachos ?
Speaker 1Hamburgers .
Speaker 2Well yeah , hot dogs , hamburgers , Crackers .
Speaker 1Wait , crackers . Wait now . What did I just do ? Let me have that one again . I don't want to finger your crackers . Just a couple people sitting around eating cheese on crackers . Don't worry , people , we're almost done eating crackers . I don't know if we are , we might have to do this rest of the show . It really holds on , doesn't it ?
Speaker 2there we go did it come out watery , uh-uh ? Did you ever just squirt it in your mouth ?
Speaker 1Mm-hmm , you don't know what you're doing with that cheese , do you ?
Speaker 2I do too . Look at it Nice Just made a work of art . Ah , spring cheese .
Speaker 1You know what that is .
Speaker 2That's a fucking hors d'oeuvre right there , hors d'oeuvre , and if you put an olive on there you can serve it up fancy .
Speaker 1Well , I don't know . Okay , this expires in October 2025 . That's the Meyer . You know what ? This one expires February 14th . Uh-oh , I don't know . I do think that I was wrong . I gotta apologize to my wife and kids now because so you think the off-brand is okay . Yeah , I think it's fine .
Speaker 2Don't you ? I'm nodding my head .
Speaker 1Alright . Well , I'll leave those open in case you want to eat some more . Wow , I'm very salty . So what else did we get from cows besides easy cheese ? Indirectly , you know what ? I'm not going to waste the cracker , kate .
Speaker 2Do it , do it up .
Speaker 1Wait , you want to see something . Look at that .
Speaker 2Oh , he's going to do two on one . There we go .
Speaker 1It's like you're mixing the races here I'm going to end up going to the ER again I have a sodium overload .
Speaker 2It's very salty but it's good . Oh , this one says you get eight servings in the can , this one only seven .
Speaker 1Uh-oh , eight ounce can . Eight ounce can .
Speaker 2What the hell , they're both two tablespoons . Well , that's weird . Do the math on that one . Well , I don't know . I think the Meyer was pretty good yeah .
Speaker 1I do too .
Speaker 2So now your task can be to try all the store brand ones . My task yeah , I can't eat that much of Easy Cheese .
Speaker 1My wife will leave me if she comes home and sees 10 cans of Easy . Cheese . You don't have to refrigerate them . You know the reason . They didn't get me Easy Cheese this year For Christmas , like I said they usually did . It's because of that With Christmas , like I said they usually did . It's because of that podcast .
Speaker 2Oh , because you said you were slamming on it .
Speaker 1Mm-hmm .
Speaker 2Oh , they were listening . Yeah , Nice job family .
Speaker 1Yeah , thank you , family .
Speaker 2All right . So all kinds of dairy products , of course , come from what ? From cows , I know , but what ? All kinds ? Any cheese , sour cream , cottage cheese , I guess it's cheese , what else ? Cheese ?
Speaker 1curds , cheese curds and whey Every show . We should do some food .
Speaker 2But not crunchy food . That was gross , I'm sorry .
Speaker 1What about meat ? You like the cow meat there .
Speaker 2I do like cow meat . I try not to , but I do .
Speaker 1My wife hasn't had beef in three , four years now .
Speaker 2Oh , good for you , bro , I mean .
Speaker 1She loves the cow .
Speaker 2I know and okay , so I'm going to read you some stuff about cows . And then , after I was researching , I was like I am a really mean person for eating these cows .
Speaker 1Well , you're kind of mean in general . Well , yeah , I like it they have a strong sense of smell .
Speaker 2They can smell stuff up to a mile away . Hmm , their peripheral vision is 360 because their eyes are on both sides of their heads .
Speaker 1That comes in handy , doesn't it it ?
Speaker 2does when people like me are stalking them , trying to tip them over ?
Speaker 1Yeah , you ever do that . No , that seems . I think that was on my list that seems really rude . And hard to do .
Speaker 2And hard to do , but they do sleep standing up , so maybe you have to wait until they sleep , but this really 10 hours a day . Cows have individual personalities too , so some are shy and timid , and some are bold and curious .
Speaker 1Some are assholes .
Speaker 2Some are probably assholes . Those are the ones I'm thinking I'm eating .
Speaker 1And that kill 20 people annually .
Speaker 2Really .
Speaker 1I wouldn't make that up , cows .
Speaker 2But they're smart too . They understand cause and effect relationships , which means that they can solve problems to receive a reward . Like they can , you know , uncover something to get a treat underneath .
Speaker 1What do you think they think when they see that trailer coming ? And they got to get on it .
Speaker 2Do you think they know ?
Speaker 1I'm sure they do . I know one time I was behind a trailer that was headed to a whatever and the cows were so freaking out there they were pooping out the back and I felt so horrible .
Speaker 2Oh my god , they're like jews going holocaust yeah , it's terrible yeah , and veal . I can't eat veal no , that's horrible yeah , because they're just little , those little baby cows , and they just put them in a container basically . That just kind of makes me sick to my stomach .
Speaker 1Don't Puke up the cheese .
Speaker 2We'll try not to . They also have great memories . Well , I don't know if all their memories are great , but they can remember . They can remember where water and shelter is located and they recognize their own herd .
Speaker 1And they're very social right .
Speaker 2They're very social . They have a wide range of emotions too Joy , frustration , fear and they depend on each other for emotional support . They're highly sociable and they have best friends .
Speaker 1Damn it , Kate .
Speaker 2They become stressed when they're separated . And they help each other . The it , kate they become stressed when they're separated , oh God . And they help each other . The cows they seek pleasure and love to play , they frolick , they chase those balls , they run , they prance . And after I wrote all that , I wrote why do you have to be so delicious ? Because it's true .
Speaker 1I feel bad . I know what are we even eating animals for ?
Speaker 2I don't know who started that , probably somebody who was hungry and there wasn't any plants available .
Speaker 1Somebody was probably eating people and they were like stop eating people .
Speaker 2Yeah , but you know , we're all mammals .
Speaker 1Yeah .
All About Cows and Bovine
Speaker 2So let's talk about dairy breeds . There's six main dairy breeds . Oh shit , I sure the Guernsey Brown Swiss you don't get chocolate milk from them Milking Shorthorn Jersey . And the Holstein , which is the black and white cow that looks very familiar in the pictures . Did you know that a group of 12 or more cows is called not a herd , but a flink ? I did not A flink , I did not A flink , a flink . I like that . I like that too .
Speaker 1I'm going to use that Flink of cows . Flink of cows .
Speaker 2I think if you own them , then they're a herd Wait what's the difference then ? Well , if they're just cows in a group they're a flink . I guess if you're taking them to market they're a herd gotcha . The largest cow it wasn't ducky . Well , it was documented but not guaranteed documented because it was from 1807 in bilton abbey in the uk . The largest cow they report , they recorded , was 7 foot tall .
Speaker 1Oh , yeah , yeah , what was his name ? And ?
Speaker 2he weighed 4,300 pounds .
Speaker 1Wait .
Speaker 2Well , I don't know , I didn't meet him .
Speaker 1There was a name . Anyway , go ahead .
Speaker 2And lately there is a cow that is 6'2" In 2025 , there was pictures of that cow .
Speaker 1That's a big cow .
Speaker 2That is a tall cow . You already said a thousand different breeds of cows worldwide . How about some famous cows ? There's not that many . I thought there'd be more .
Speaker 1There's one , the Farside Comics . Oh yeah , I love the Farside , click Clack Moo .
Speaker 2Click , clack Moo , is that the name of that ? Clarabelle is a Disney cartoon . She's Minnie's friend in the old ones . I don't know .
Speaker 1I believe you .
Speaker 2She's not very attractive , Sorry , Clarabelle . Bye Clarabelle . Then there's Elsie the cow . She was from the World's Fair in 1939 , and then she became the Borden dairy rep .
Speaker 1Oh , that's funny . So on the .
Speaker 2Borden stuff . There's a picture of a cow that's Elsie the cow .
Speaker 1Set up her family for the rest of their lives .
Speaker 2They're set , they're still getting residuals , yeah for sure . Then there was Maude Ormsby . In 1921 , she produced 743 pounds of milk and 28 pounds of butterfat in seven days . In seven days .
Speaker 1That's busy .
Speaker 2She's . That's a lot , and because of that fame she was elected homecoming queen at Ohio State University in 1926 .
Speaker 1Sounds about right for Ohio State .
Speaker 2Eh Well , how would you like to be the losing person to her ?
Speaker 1I lost to a cow . Yeah , no kidding .
Speaker 2Oh man , my favorite cow is probably Ferdinand the Bull . There's books , kids' books . We were just talking about that .
Speaker 1We watched the movie . You ever watch the movie ? No , it's a goddamn delight , is it ? It's really good , oh . I love the book and that's why I thought about that . You know they see the thing coming and they know where they're going to get . They know . Yeah , there's a whole thing about that in there .
Speaker 2He lived in Spain . Oh , actually it was based on a real cow that lived in Spain , Spain .
Speaker 1You know they fought bulls there . Yeah , they did . And you know they don't see the well . They see colors , but the red's not .
Speaker 2What does it ? They don't see red . No , they see the movement . The movement , yeah . So why is it always red ? I don't know . Somebody started that and then they found out what that's kind of brutal . Did you ever see pictures of the running of the bulls ? Yeah , oh my gosh . And people are like , oh dear , people are getting killed . Good yeah , you will die . I mean , that just is a fact .
Speaker 1Bunch of tough guys . Yeah , morons .
Speaker 2Tradition , I guess . So the last cow to graze on the White House lawn so far was during the Taft administration in 1913 . And that cow's name was Pauline .
Speaker 1They don't have cows there anymore . No , they don't .
Speaker 2Maybe they should get some . I'm not going to gonna touch it and that's all we're gonna say okay . Okay , we already said clarla , what do you think are the top cow names ? Like , if you were gonna name a cow , what would you name it ?
Speaker 1bella uh yeah , I think that was um um jack jack the cow Jack , the Cow Jack , the Bull Mabel . Maud .
Speaker 2Dottie Buttercup , brownie .
Speaker 1Bessie , bessie the Cow .
Speaker 2So I don't know . You know I love you cows , but why do you have to be so delicious ?
Speaker 1They're quite delicious .
Speaker 2I wish I didn't like beef , but I do .
Speaker 1I know Me too . What about the methane gas thing ?
Speaker 2Oh yeah , they pump a lot out . They actually do , I think it's because it goes through all the stomachs . It has something to do with it .
Speaker 1Yeah , the chemical reaction there , and they actually recently did a study . It goes last year and I can't don't quote me , of course , because we're just fucking around here , but I really did see watched it last night where they gave cows one percent seaweed in their diet and it reduced the methane gas by 42 percent from one percent seaweed . Wow , yeah , so that's pretty amazing , wow that is a lot yeah , but the thing is they're like well , how do we do this ?
Speaker 2the seaweed's harder to you know , get right right , not a lot of cows live by the ocean .
Speaker 1No .
Speaker 2So anything else you want to add about cows or bovine in general .
Speaker 1Well , you think beef is delicious . In the rest of the world , I do . The US , or global the world , that's what it's called they do too , because it's the third most consumed meat .
Speaker 2Guess what's first and second Chicken and pork , and pork Pork is pretty delicious too , and I Chicken and pork and pork Pork is pretty delicious too , and I love those pigs , they're so cute , yeah . But bacon , oh my God , why do you have to be so delicious
The Ethics of Cow Consumption
Speaker 2?
Speaker 1India , as you know , the cows are sacred .
Speaker 2Sacred Not getting any beef there . No .
Speaker 1Cows represent fertility and nourishment and sustenance In India or all over . Yeah , in general , yeah , and I just the cow , I guess you know it's like a symbol of rural life .
Speaker 2It is . It's when you think of a cow , usually a black and white cow . What did I say ? It was Guernsey . No , comes to mind Black and white , it was Holstein .
Speaker 1Yeah , it was Guernsey . Oh , comes to mind Black and white , it was Holstein . Yeah , it was . Then there's the whole debate about factory farming . Oh , and you'll see those videos . Oh , it's bad . It's bad If you ever want to sack up and think maybe I shouldn't eat beef .
Speaker 2If you don't want to eat beef or chicken or pork , watch .
Speaker 1How they treat the animals and how horrible it is when they die . It is and I know everyone's just animals .
Speaker 2No , they're not . Well , we proved that they have personalities .
Speaker 1Well , there's a lot of people who don't care .
Speaker 2Well , I know , I don't . When I have a hamburger in front of me . I feel like I don't care either . Yeah , it don't .
Speaker 1When I have a hamburger in front of me , I feel like I don't care either . Yeah , it is good Steak . Come on a roast . I've seen those things and still eat them . I don't eat as much beef as I used to , though . I just don't .
Speaker 2No , we used to actually buy like a half a cow or whatever .
Speaker 1The weird thing too is there's sometimes like oh man , the steak looks good and I'll start eating it and I'm like bleh .
Speaker 2Yeah , like the texture of it , maybe Just in general like meat . Yeah , if you think about it too much , I think that's .
Speaker 1oh , wait a minute .
Speaker 2Wait a minute .
Speaker 1Bellino , maybe that was the name of the cow . It was a Chianina breed . That's not on your list . No , it's not .
Speaker 2I don't have all thousands written down . Is it a dairy cow ?
Speaker 1Yeah , I think so . Oh , a cow can hold their stomach can hold 50 gallons .
Speaker 2Whatever Of everything .
Speaker 1That's like a bathtub of .
Speaker 2That is a lot , yeah , but they're big , they're quite large and they got four of those stomachs .
Speaker 1I can't get to the last page . It's stuffed with some easy cheese . Come on .
Speaker 2Do you have any more facts ? Maybe I'm looking . Oh yeah , you got another whole page you research man .
Speaker 1The beef industry generates $66 billion annually . And when you got that much money going , guess what ? Things aren't going to probably change much .
Speaker 2Remember , and when you've got that much money going , guess what . Things aren't going to probably change much . Remember when Oprah said don't eat hamburgers and they sued her and she's like you're stupid and they lost .
Speaker 1I guess that's it .
Speaker 2So what do you say ? Hero or dick for cows ?
Speaker 1Hero .
Speaker 2They're delicious heroes .
Speaker 1Sorry , they are delicious heroes .
Speaker 2So for our fast five , we're going to stay on cow-related stuff .
Speaker 1I'm pretty depressed now though .
Speaker 2I know , me too , and the first one is hamburgers .
Speaker 1Fuck Hero .
Speaker 2I know I'm so hero . I love a hamburger . I just ate one , damn it . How about Impossible Burgers , though ?
Speaker 1Those aren't bad and they're heroic because for people that can't eat beef , or don't want to have you had one . Yeah , they're pretty good .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1Have you had the Impossible Wieners or whatever the brats ?
Speaker 2No .
Speaker 1They're pretty damn good .
Speaker 2Are they ?
Speaker 1I'm not lying to you .
Speaker 2I believe you .
Speaker 1And actually it's weird , they got it , so it looks like the meat is bloody .
Speaker 2I think the more they make it look like meat , the more people will try it . It's more expensive , though . But how about sirloin or a T-bone ? I mean , what do you mean ? You can't impossible those ? No , no , and they're delicious , and they're heroes . I say what's your favorite kind of steak ? I'm going to say a sirloin . I like a ribeye , oh , I like a ribeye .
Speaker 1I used to love roasts .
Speaker 2And now I do too , if they're made correctly or the way I think is correctly .
Speaker 1What do you mean ?
Speaker 2I mean , like my mom used to make it Go ahead , she'd sear it and then put it in a pan and then put potatoes and carrots and onions around it and then put it in the oven for two , three hours .
Speaker 1Get the gravy juice stuff going . Oh my God , it was so good . Yeah , dip some bread in there .
Speaker 2And now this is . You know again , I love them , but if you stop and think about it , it's really really gross what . Ribs it's really gross Deliciously . Yeah , I mean , it's the rib of that animal .
Speaker 1I know it's a living thing . That's like chewing on a person .
Speaker 2It's horrible . What are we doing ? I know it's horrible .
Speaker 1We're all vegetarian .
Speaker 2We're both vegetarians now . And that's my next thing . So , vegetarians , I give you eye marks and you're heroes .
Speaker 1Maybe one day Do you think we could do it ? See how long we can go without eating meat . You think we could last ? Oh , you can't , you're going on vacation .
Speaker 2I'm going on vacation , so I choose not to . I want to eat whatever I want to eat , but I'll probably eat a lot of fish , actually the way , I'm done .
Speaker 1We should try Maybe in February .
Speaker 2we'll try it . Try to , because I'm not doing it during barbecue season .
Speaker 1No fucking way I get it .
Speaker 2How about ?
Speaker 1this gas grill versus charcoal ? I'm a charcoal guy .
Speaker 2But gas is so nice because you fire it up and gas is easy . But charcoal is better . Yeah , I think so too .
Speaker 1I think we talked about that one Wait , are we supposed to say hero or dick ? Yeah Hero , gas dick , charcoal hero .
Speaker 2Okay , and we have one more cow related item , and it's leather Leather jackets and leather shoes . I mean , if we're going to kill them and eat them , we might as well use their skin right ? Yeah , don't waste anything . That's super worse . I feel like a Nazi talking about cows .
Speaker 1I'm so sorry cows , there might be a time , like hundreds of years from now , when people look back at us . Those people were horrible . They're barbarians .
Speaker 2They're eating spray cheese , spray cheese and cows .
Speaker 1Killing animals and chewing on their ribs .
Speaker 2Chewing on their ribs
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Speaker 2.
Speaker 1Eating tongues .
Speaker 2Oh , I know , no , no liver , no tongue , no , nothing , no organs , no organs Really . But I can remember going to my grandmother's house and she was serving us .
Speaker 1Tongue , yeah , and that it looked like a big tongue . I tried . Oh , it was oral .
Speaker 2Oh God , I don't think I tried it . I don't know .
Speaker 1Oh God , anything else we want to no but now I'm depressed .
Speaker 2I really think this one's a real dud . Yeah , this podcast I think so it's a dick , even though we think cows are heroes . But well , let's , let's think about that for the next two weeks , maybe february . You know , january is dry month , so maybe february can be vegetarian month wait , sure can .
Speaker 1you's short , can you eat fish ?
Speaker 2Well , can we just do non-vegetarian ? Technically , vegetarians don't eat anything with a face . What but my vegetarian relative Eat anything with a face , eats fish and shrimp and Shrimp . So , she just doesn't eat beef or chicken . Okay , well , maybe . So maybe we can just do beef and pork maybe .
Speaker 1Yeah , that sounds like , I don't know .
Speaker 2I can do something you can do it , I feel a change coming okay maybe not and maybe at the end of that month we would feel so healthy we we would Probably Well , probably we should knock off these canned cheese First we'll eat our easy cheese .
Speaker 1Alright , thanks everybody .
Speaker 2Talk to you soon . Bye .
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