Hero or Dick
Welcome to Hero or Dick!
We started this podcast with a blunt question about people: Hero or Dick?
Then we found ourselves asking it about places, traditions, entertainment, and the ordinary stuff we’d never thought to question before. Who gets praised? What gets overlooked? Why are we so sure we know the story?
We pick something that interests us, do our homework, and sit down to talk. We bring facts, opinions, and stories from our own lives, and follow the occasional tangent.
Sometimes we reach a verdict. Sometimes the question gets more interesting.
If that sounds like a conversation you’d want to be part of, join us.
~ Kate & KJ
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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick - S3., Ep. 6 - Roseanne Barr
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Welcome to another episode of Hero or Dick! This time around, Kate & KJ discuss Roseanne Barr.
How does a groundbreaking comedian who transformed television representation become one of the most divisive voices in American culture?
Tune in to find out.
Thanks for listening!
~ Kate & KJ
Welcome to Season 3
Speaker 1Now and we're on . Hey Welcome , ladies and gentlemen to Season 3 . Can you say , ladies and gentlemen , anymore ? Oh , I don't know .
Speaker 2Yeah , we can say whatever we want . Yeah mother , Nobody's listening . Remember .
Speaker 1Welcome to Hero or Dick .
Speaker 2Season 3, .
Speaker 1Episode 6 . Little technical difficulties as usual , as usual . I bought the part that we needed for our headsets but not really , but I bought the wrong one . My wife's gonna like that . Just throwing money down the toilet can you return it ?
Speaker 2oh , you probably don't have all this stuff . And plus it's like how much was it ?
Speaker 1six bucks yeah , I don't know , and then it was washing down the street because we just had a flash flood . Yeah , it was pretty amazing . Yeah , yeah , sitting here I got tuna fish breath smell like coffee .
Speaker 2I got , mustard I got mustard on my shirt . Wow , you're a mess , Sorry Wow .
Speaker 1Speaking of mess . What's our ?
Speaker 2topic today , roseanne Bar . Is she somebody who just gets one name , like if you say Roseanne , People know it .
Speaker 1She's like Cher .
Speaker 2Well , I would beg to differ there . She's like she has one name like that . Yeah , sia , who's that ? What ?
Speaker 1One , two , three drink that song . Sia Chandelier , that's a great song .
Speaker 2I'm sorry , I don't know that . I don't know that . I'm not even sorry for not knowing that .
Introducing Roseanne: Early Life & Career
Speaker 1Now we chose Roseanne , because why ?
Speaker 2did we Do something different ? It was my fault . Yeah , you , yeah .
Speaker 1Why did I do that ? You asked me a question .
Speaker 2I don't know . I'm like , what should we do next time ? Let's do Roseanne Barr , okay .
Speaker 1And I don't even know . Fence Roseanne . I know she's probably listening , but I uh , I never was a fan of her before . Well not even that show .
Speaker 2Uh , I will say , and we will find out as we get into it . You know um , I think that early on she was very influential she was .
Speaker 1What do you call that ? A trailblazer for women ?
Speaker 2she was she was , and she didn't have an easy life . She's born jewish in salt lake city , right there , ma'am , you're a jew in a mormon city , son of a bitch . Eh , I guess I don't know . I don't know either .
Speaker 1You ever been there ?
Speaker 2Salt Lake City yeah .
Speaker 1Jewish that too , neither .
Speaker 2No , no , I've never been to . I've been through Utah but not spent time . It's beautiful there . It looks beautiful .
Speaker 1Seems like it , I'll have to visit it . I gotta stop making these major Right you get a .
Speaker 2I think a lot of places you get a preconceived you know whatever the cliche is about the city , like if you go to Detroit you're going to get murdered , that's . I've been to Detroit .
Speaker 1I haven't been murdered yet I haven't been , or have we both been ?
Speaker 2Oh , and now we're just here .
Speaker 1Hanging out in the afterlife .
Speaker 2Oh my gosh , Very sixth sense of you , man . Anyhow , all right , there's something to think about .
Speaker 1No , she did have , and she didn't have it easy .
Speaker 2She dropped out of high school when she was just 17 .
Speaker 1Well , what about the accident ?
Speaker 2And then she got in a bad car accident and I think that really screwed her up , caused her brain damage . Yeah , cost her brain damage . Yeah , yeah , enough that she was . It said she had nightmares of memory loss so severe that she was admitted to a mental institution had to give up her baby and well , that came a little later they said that it was part of it .
Speaker 2I thought she left after a year to the mental institution . But that's a long time to spend in a mental institution , especially if you're only 17 to begin with , that's a big part of your life .
Speaker 1How long do you think you can do it now , like if they dropped you off ?
Speaker 2Oh , do you have insurance ?
Speaker 1No , I mean just to see if you could do it .
Speaker 2How long do you think I ?
Speaker 1could last in a mental institution . You personally could last at Point East .
Speaker 2Wow , Well , I don't know and I hope I don't have to know .
Speaker 1You think we could do a show from there ? No , not in a bad way , but I think maybe out in the hall .
Speaker 2Maybe I will be there or you will be there , I'm definitely going and I'll come and meet you and say I'm here to do the podcast .
Speaker 1I'm headed there , Kate .
Speaker 2No shame .
Speaker 1Okay , so what else about her ? So ?
Speaker 2then , after she left there , she was 17 , maybe 18 , and she had a baby who was a girl .
Speaker 1Brandy .
Speaker 2And she put her up for adoption and 17 years later , this kid comes back to claim her Brandy . Is that her name , Brandy ?
Speaker 1She's a fine girl , brandy Brown .
Speaker 2Brandy .
Speaker 1Brown , brandy Ann Brown , no , that's not a real name . I swear to God . Brandy Ann Brown .
Speaker 2Is she a stripper ?
Speaker 1Not anymore . She's back , connected with her rich mother , with her net worth of $89 .
Speaker 2So , after she did the adoption thing , um , um , that's funny . Speaking of mental , my therapist just texted me . So after that , though , she worked as a dishwasher what ? Really and then a waitress and that hurt her snarky . You know . Comebacks to customers got her going in comedy clubs on open mic night so people like went to see her .
Speaker 1Yeah , and she lived in colorado .
Speaker 2She went to colorado for she said I'm going for two weeks and she never went back . She never came home and she was in colorado springs area at some point in the early 80s because my sisters lived there hey south , hey kath and um they saw her as a as an upcoming comedian oh cool yeah , yeah so .
Speaker 2so she did that in the early 80s , um , and worked comedy clubs around that area , and she also got married and had three kids around this time too . Then she got her big break , where people used to get their big break for , especially comedians Probably bands too , but especially comedians when do you get your big break , I'm asking you . Like a long time ago on the Tonight Show .
Speaker 1Oh yes , If you were on .
Speaker 2The Tonight Show , and especially then if Johnny asked you to come and sit on the couch you made it . You made it .
Speaker 1You're there , you're there .
Speaker 2And so she did that , and that was in 85 . And then in 1986 , so she was really gaining momentum . She performed with Rodney Dangerfield . No respect , no respect . I love Rodney dangerfield . No respect , no respect . I love rodney dangerfield wait wait , wait .
Speaker 1What was the show he was in that ? Back to school , back to school , good old rodney .
Speaker 2He was on a lot of things that were . He is funny he's .
Speaker 1I yeah , I think he's hilarious his whole as mannerisms and just anyway .
Speaker 2Yeah , I'm here to sidetrack you then she was on david letterman and then she got her own again . This for the time . This was a . This is how you knew you made it as a comedian . You got an hbo special in 1987 she got a hbo special um uh and then um oh , she was at that time too . She was offered the peg bundy role on married with children , which I think she could have pulled that off , but I love katie seagal is that her name ?
Speaker 1yes what's katie seagal ? No wrong is that steven se's .
Speaker 2No , she's not related to him ? No , because she's way cooler than him . What ?
Speaker 1Nobody's cooler than Steven Seagal Katie .
Speaker 2Seagal . We should have done the show on her . She's a cool lady . So she was a backup singer for Bette Midler and then she did some acting and she was Peg Bundy and then she was the matriarch on sons of anarchy , and she was so good were you doing research on her instead of no . I just know this about her because I kind of like I guess I'm stalking her .
Speaker 2Oh shit ,
Rise to Comedy Stardom
Speaker 2yeah , whatever man , your knowledge about pop culture people is just , it's up there so roseanne's thing was she did her act and her big thing was she called herself a domestic goddess , yeah , and her her comedy was she called herself a domestic goddess , yeah , and her her comedy was very blue collar , so I think a lot of people could relate to it , sure , uh . So then she got her sitcom and it was funny , but it was really harsh reality , yep , and . But that was her personality and she , um , she did blaze the trail because she wasn't a skinny housewife like Mary Tyler Moore or you know whoever .
Speaker 1Or the Bewitched Lady .
Speaker 2Yeah , what's her name ? I ?
Speaker 1don't know . Elizabeth Montgomery , oh , that's what it was . Look at you .
Speaker 2I know .
Speaker 1Knocking them down .
Speaker 2I've got memory . Today you hit me on a good day , but she was different from all of those people and I think , because she was so real , people related to her and as she is in this show , she also got a reputation of being difficult . So are you difficult ? No , because she refused to say certain lines . I looked for a specific instance and I couldn't find one , but I believe she did . She just said no , Roseanne wouldn't say that .
Speaker 1Oh , I guess .
Speaker 2My character wouldn't say that Okay , and she refused , and the show lasted nine years , so she must have been doing something right .
Speaker 1She won an Emmy , didn't she ? I ?
Speaker 2mean , in the end it was kind of jumping the shark , you know .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2I don't know . Then they won the lottery and then oh , it was just a dream .
Speaker 1And then now the show came back right . I didn't even watch it then .
Speaker 2But I did watch it at the beginning and I thought it was funny . John Goodman was hilarious as her husband and they were such a perfect match . And her kids were real kids . They weren't , you know , perfect little children , they were real .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah . So then something changed . I don't know , was it when she hooked up with Tom Arnold ?
Speaker 1There was some controversy there . Is that his name , Tom Arnold ? Yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Cokehead .
Speaker 2I don't care for Tom Arnold . So was it then ? Or was it when she croaked out the 1990 Star Spangled Banner at the baseball game ? Yeah , you know , that's one thing to not sing it correctly and nicely , but then she grabbed a crotch at the end of it . Yeah , and it's like , eh , that was Jumping the Shark too . I think , yeah , that was over the line she was trying to get . She was trying to use comedy and it wasn't funny .
Speaker 1Right . You know , sometimes there's a time and a place .
Speaker 2There is , and sometimes people think it's funny or improvise and hope it will be funny , and it's not .
Speaker 1Well , here's the funny thing she can do that for the national anthem . But you know , people had a big deal , a few players kneeling .
Speaker 2Yeah , I have more problem with her than them so interesting . If they want to take a knee , that's fine .
Speaker 1But I mean , whatever she did , what she did and she got attention for it .
Speaker 2Yes , she did .
Speaker 1And I think that's part of her shtick too is go to our bed and get attention .
Speaker 2Maybe she is a needy person who just needs attention . Mm-hmm , maybe she is a needy person who just needs attention .
Speaker 1Be it bad or good Talented , though . Yeah , she thinks she's a musician too , though you know she did a rap for a recent song supporting Trump . I didn't hear that .
Speaker 2And so here's the other thing when she did that Star-Spangled Banner I mean everybody , especially right people on the right , said that it was just disgusting . You know how she , how she , you know , um , how would you say it how she abused that song and it was just disgusting in that now they're all her friends .
Speaker 1Well , and it's acceptable , apparently , Apparently , especially if you're in a very high place of leadership . Okay , let's say that I'm sorry , I'll stop . I'll stop .
Speaker 2So then my next question is maybe it was when she switched political parties ? She went from Democrat to Republican , to Peace and Freedom Party .
Speaker 1She ran and she ran 2012 , right as president .
Speaker 2Yeah , and she got she didn't win In 2012 . She didn't win , but she got on the ballot in three states and got over 50K votes 50,000 votes . Now she's a Trump supporter and in 2016 , she called Trump the first woman president , which I don't understand .
Speaker 1Women for Trump . He was the first woman president , though he is . Maybe he's trance , I don't know . That'd be something I think his wife's a guy . I think he's a fucking Cheeto .
Speaker 2A Cheeto . I better take that out , all right .
Speaker 1Yeah , let's get back to I . Better take that out .
Speaker 2All right , so it has to be . So . It could be any one of those times but it has to be by this time when she insulted people , and not just insulted them , but was
From Sitcom Success to Controversy
Speaker 2mean and racially , oh yeah .
Speaker 1Bigotry , calling the lady like a .
Speaker 2Calling Valerie Jaret , the child of a Muslim brotherhood in the planet of the apes . That's not . You don't need to ever do that . Call somebody that . And now she kisses Trump's ass , the guy who called her disgraceful until she supported him for president .
Speaker 1Well , it's all about loyalty .
Speaker 2I guess she did say that she had hurt feelings because she is a magna devotee , but now she complains that Trump and his people call me a loose cannon and he hurt my feelings Like what You're playing that game .
Speaker 1Yeah , what do you think is going to ?
Speaker 2happen . Yeah , yeah , so yeah , Now she . Do you want to say anything more about her past ?
Speaker 1Oh , I like that she moved to Hawaii to have a macadamia nut farm .
Speaker 2She did and she still does have that place . She works on it .
Speaker 1And she said she did move there Because , I don't know , she probably wouldn't be a bad person to sit down and have a drink with . No , I mean she'd probably be fun , and down to earth , I think .
Speaker 2I would think so .
Speaker 1yeah , you know and she said she moved to Hawaii . I mean , I haven't seen her spread . It's probably pretty nice , but to get away from the Hollywood phoniness . So she owns like half the island . I'm just kidding .
Speaker 248 acres is a lot , but I don't know what island it's on either . I'm not sure it's not on the big island , I don't think , but she does still have that place . But she actually lives in Texas now .
Speaker 1Because her son Everybody moved to Texas .
Speaker 2Her son . Maybe Did she have a kid with Tom Arnold . Yeah , I think so Maybe it's a kid with Tom Arnold . So it's her youngest son . It must be . And what was his name ? Joshua or Jason or something like that , and she Jake . She does a weekly podcast with him , which I meant to listen to it , but I did not . I didn't even know .
Speaker 2I'll check it out yeah , she does a weekly podcast with her son , jake . I have no idea what their topics are or if they have a theme or whatever . She lives in texas , in the hill country , and she lives I think she lives with the son and wife and grandkids , oh , and she's still writing scripts . Um , the last thing I read about her was she was considering a move to palm beach because she loves it there so much . Oh , but we have to backtrack a little bit . So she got rosanne . The show rosanne wrote rebooted , yeah , and then all the almost all the original cast and then she was fired for that racist Twitter and on the show they killed her off . So I mean , she's not coming back .
Speaker 2No Well , unless it's all a dream and the show continued , and they're just wrapping up seven years that's impressive . Yeah , that is that . They went on without her .
Speaker 1I don't know , know they referenced her . I never really watched a lot , though , about the fact , because that was her idea . It was her idea in her show what kept going without her , or if she's still got money I don't know .
Speaker 2So I wonder yeah , does she get residuals from that show ?
Speaker 1syndication for anything , maybe um she's got money , I'm not worried about her um rex , our just handed me a note and he said that she has real estate in El Segundo , california . Okay , including a $3.3 million home and a commercial studio . Oh yeah , to do what , whatever she does .
Speaker 2Well , I guess yeah .
Speaker 1Get ready for 2028 , probably , probably , probably . She has supported several causes , causes . Would you like to know some of them ?
Speaker 2yes , I would , because look at the sun , it was just torrential rain .
Speaker 1When , when you had to go , outside and now that you're inside , it's sunny , so um acorn advocacy for low and modern income families .
Speaker 2Okay , that sounds like a good thing .
Speaker 1My wife just sent me a message .
Speaker 2Oh good , hey Brooke .
Speaker 1Hello Brooke . Comic relief , that was for supporting poverty and homelessness oh , not supporting it , but trying to get rid of it . Animal rights activism in New York City oh , called NYC class or New York Class , something like that .
Speaker 2And the Trevor Project , it's suicide prevention services for LGBTQ oh , wow See , and if you're mega , I guess I would just assume you're against all of that .
Speaker 1Shame on us . We shouldn't think that way .
Speaker 2I guess .
Speaker 1so Well , I'm making assumptions and I can't do that , I shouldn't do that , nope , but nine times out of 20 .
Political Shifts and Twitter Troubles
Speaker 1Um , she studied kabbalah .
Speaker 2Oh , she's also tried to get very spiritual , probably because the old you know well sometimes everybody should I think everybody at a certain age thinks you know , should I be believing in something ?
Speaker 1do you ? No , I mean uh not yet I haven't found it .
Speaker 2Yet . There's I don't get , most organized religion is just I . I guess it's just over my head I don't know , I just don't get it no , I really like the pope that died , though he was a good guy was he yeah , pope francis , rest in peace . Yeah , that jd vance killed . You met with him the day before , did he ?
Speaker 1really he did oh my god , did they do an autopsy ? You know , we should start doing like a conspiracy podcast . It would do really well .
Speaker 2Oh , my god , yes , let's just start making shit up , all right , well ? Well , it seems to me that you can do that now you can , and if it's true , it's true .
Speaker 1If it's not , it's not .
Speaker 2Right Prove me wrong People prove me wrong , but that Pope was cool . He is the Pope who said they asked about him if he believed in homosexuality or whatever . If he , you know , should shun people . And he said who am I to judge ? Well , you're the fucking pope . So if anybody can judge , it's probably you , but good for you .
Speaker 1Yeah , there is no judgment , right , no judging . Who am I to judge ?
Speaker 2here we are sitting judging roseanne I'm not judging her , I'm just giving you facts about her . And now I'm going to tell you what I think . I think she really started out as a hero for feminism and for just blue collar rights , and not even just to get out of a Hollywood , and keeping it mostly the Hollywood stereotype .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2Of you know you have to have blonde hair and big boobs to get a TV show , and she proved them wrong . And she also proved that you can be funny and kind of snarky and still it's OK . You know , that's how a lot of people are . However , that's how she started out , but now she seems like she's a dick because she is , you know , saying racist stuff , white , not white , but kind of right wing conspiracy , hate spreading rhetoric , and that's not cool , no matter who we are she's not feeling well .
Speaker 2Well , that doesn't mean you get to spread , you know , you get to be a racist . Oh , I don't feel good . I think I'll be a racist today . That's not how it works . It's not how it works I know that's not comedy either . No , she's going for comedy , but you're right now .
Speaker 1You're getting some laughs I'm chuckling . Well , you're the only one no , we got hundreds of no , we don't no , we .
Speaker 2So I think she started out as a hero , but now she's kind of a dick .
Hero or Dick? The Final Verdict
Speaker 2Not kind of , she is a dick . Yeah , what say you ?
Speaker 1that's tough , I don't know . I mean , yeah , I think she's a hero overall . I guess she's a hero because you think of it . I don't know . It's tough because you can't say something you shouldn't say . You shouldn't be judging well , saying I'm not judging , I'm going by no , not you , I mean her .
Speaker 2What I'm saying , the things about people and and that wasn't her only racist thing that she said . She said some other stuff too , and you know . If she believes that again I'm not here to judge her . But don't Twitter it out , because then you're hurting other people , right , just like Trump hurt her feelings . Yeah , see how that works . See how that works . Comes around , comes around .
Speaker 1Yeah , see how that works . See how that works , comes around , comes around . Yeah , hero , fallen hero .
Speaker 2A fallen hero I like that ?
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , I think she'd come on our show .
Speaker 2I don't know I don't think so .
Speaker 1I don't know . Maybe we could do it from the macadamia nut .
Speaker 2What's our oh , that would be cool . Yeah , fool Fool , that would be fool . What's our email ? She can email us .
Speaker 1Oh , what is it ?
Speaker 2Hero or Dick .
Speaker 1Oh Hero or Dick .
Speaker 2Hero or .
Speaker 1Dick at Gmail . No , it's no Hero or Dick 2023 at Gmailcom .
Speaker 2Yes , that's it , that's it .
Speaker 1I think I just gave . That's it . This podcast is falling apart . We had an anniversary .
Speaker 2We did in March .
Speaker 1We didn't have our party .
Speaker 2No , and we keep saying we're getting swag . We are , cassidy , we are , and you're going to be the first to get some .
Speaker 1Hey , I got to get a copy . Oh , I don't have any more of those proof copies . I have to get a copy to Cassidy .
Speaker 2I'll give her mine , well , unless you want to give her another one . But I read your book and it was delightful .
Speaker 1Thanks , I love the cover .
Speaker 2So much , and yeah , you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover , but how can you not , I don't know ? So I'm judging your book by its cover too . I'll take it , but the content was very good , thanks , and I like how some of the related to each story and I like how you had what was my other thing I had .
Speaker 1What's that ? We shouldn't talk about it anyway , why ? Well , you know .
Speaker 2You can promote what's it called .
Speaker 1Devotion , devo , no , it's Devotion .
Speaker 2Devotion , devotion .
Speaker 1And actually I got I don't know A decent amount Of advanced reader copies Out to folks . Those were Like the one you have Isn't the finished copy , but pretty close and I just Released the finished one To Global distribution Today , so That'll be available .
Speaker 2Look for it .
Speaker 1Devotion Amazon and yep .
Speaker 2Who ? What's your author name ?
Speaker 1KJ Stevens Okay .
Speaker 2With a southern accent .
Speaker 1No , kj Stevens , that's a northern . Well , anyway , thanks .
Speaker 2All right , Now I have some the fast five . I have for you today are 80s comedies .
Speaker 1Ooh
80s Comedy Fast Five
Speaker 1, awesome .
Speaker 2So we know how we feel about Roseanne , how about Golden Girls .
Speaker 1You're asking me yeah , hero .
Speaker 2I say hero too . Yeah , how about Cheers ?
Speaker 1Hero .
Speaker 2Yeah , in its day it was hilarious . You know , I don't know . Well , I guess I can wait until we say them all , but I haven't went back and watched any of these again . So sometimes they don't hold up and sometimes they do , like seinfeld , I can watch seinfeld and still laugh . I watch it every day . And the simpsons , oh my god , I can watch those . If that's the only thing on my tv for the rest of my life , you're fine , I'm fine with them . How about , uh , murphy brown ?
Speaker 1I never watched it .
Speaker 2Oh , was that too late . Probably , probably , I say hero For what she stood for and also how she changed her assistant every single episode .
Speaker 1She had a different assistant every episode .
Speaker 2Almost every episode . That's funny . She burned through .
Speaker 1I like that .
Speaker 2How about Married with Children ?
Speaker 1I never really watched that either .
Speaker 2I say hero . I'll say hero Because of Katie Segal and I like that . How about married with children ? I never really watched that either .
Speaker 1I say hero , I'll say hero big because of katie seagal and I like that dude ed big no it's funny too .
Speaker 2And then he was a modern family modern family .
Speaker 1That's what I could watch .
Speaker 2We watched that a lot too , yeah that one's not old enough to make this list . How about night court ?
Speaker 1oh , so you're laughing ? Yeah , I did like that one .
Speaker 2It's a simple premise . It is a simple premise that I thought they did well with what they had .
Speaker 1Oh , Richard Moll .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , he's great . And then they had that older lady too . She was always smoking a cigarette . Yeah , how about one more Wonder Years ?
Speaker 1Oh , come on now , trying to to make me cry . That was one of my favorites when I was younger , the narration , you know , it was always sappy that was very .
Speaker 2It could be really sappy , but it also was it . It did capture that moment in time . Yep , yeah no , that was good one so uh , like I said , I haven't read . I mean , every now and then I watch the Golden Girls and they just Bea Arthur can just give a look and she's funny .
Speaker 1There's some shows you go back and watch , but I think it's like what was the one ?
Speaker 2Oh gosh , Somebody gave us the DVDs of WKRP in Cincinnati . That was one of my faves which at the time I thought was such a great show . Well , let me tell you .
Speaker 1Not so good .
Speaker 2It does not hold up .
Speaker 1No .
Speaker 2No . It might have been great in its day .
Speaker 1Oh , because of the sexism .
Speaker 2Well , yeah , and it's just the even the okay . The turkey one is funny still , unless Nesman's always funny to me , but overall it's just not funny . Sorry , lani it was .
Speaker 1It was funny then . Well , I used to like it . The a team . You remember the a ?
Speaker 2team . I never watched it , but I've seen the movie I went back and watched it like a couple years ago .
Speaker 1It's stupid , isn't it really really bad ?
Speaker 2it really bad , it's really bad . Knight Rider , but Mr T , yeah , we liked him in our house . Oh man , we had the Mr T . We bought the cereal . Cassidy had the puzzle . I wish I knew where it was . We had the Mr T puzzle and the action figure . Awesome , mm-hmm . You could have retired on that you should . There's a little two-year-old , cassidy , doing a Mr T puzzle .
Speaker 1She probably still has it .
Speaker 2No , she doesn't . We checked . What did you say ? A pity the fool , pity the fool , Eat that cereal .
Speaker 1What have you been watching lately ?
Speaker 2Well , I went and watched the Alpena movie . The movie that was filmed in Alpena , I should say .
Speaker 1What was the name of that ?
Speaker 2It's name is Revenge . No , arsene's Island , revenge .
Speaker 1You know , and the weird thing is you're sitting here telling me about my book thing , but you're an actress , You're in that movie .
Speaker 2I'm in the movie . If you go see the movie , which is playing through May 1st in Alpena , and then it will be at some theaters eventually , I think before too long it'll be streaming and it's fun to watch because of course there's all these alpina locations . But um , it's still . It's a good uh premise for a movie too . So it's about these guys that come back from world war . One prohibition's going on . They can't even drink . They just went through a war . I mean , come on yeah prohibition .
Speaker 2You should do a show on that , because that's the stupidest decision ever . So anyway , they come back and they just want to , you know , have some liquor and the purple gang in detroit rules that area . Well , they start making some moonshine and selling it , and the purple gang doesn't like that and so it's about their conflict and they lived on harsens island , which is just off detroit , but um , they couldn't film on Harsin's Island , which is just off Detroit , but they couldn't film on Harsin's Island because it's an island .
Speaker 2They said it was just not cost effective . So they came to Alpena and scoped it out . They used the Centennial Building . They used a lot of places downtown Fireside , inn , presque Isle they were at both lighthouses , they were at the museum . Um , all over downtown there's another a few , so almost every place you recognize so and so I am a churchgoer .
Speaker 2So that's a stretch for me right there . So I'm a churchgoer . In the church behind the museum there's that little green church , I think it's called . It's like an old church that was brought there and I am on screen for about , I'd say , three seconds .
Speaker 1That's good . Better than zero .
Speaker 2They show us and then they break away , and then they show us again and I'm not looking directly at the camera like I thought I was Good yeah .
Speaker 1That's a no-no .
Speaker 2No , it is . And as soon as they said don't look at the camera , what do you think I did ?
Speaker 1You looked at the camera .
Speaker 2Well , yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah . So they edited out that whole fight scene that you had with the head of the purple gang .
Speaker 2That's a fight scene that you had with the head of the purple gang . That's up . I was a church goer . Come on , I didn't even want to do it . We went there to watch them and they're like put on this hat , but your building isn't it ? I'm like , okay , yes , but I'm not in any I know , but a lot of the buildings in there , the building is in there a few times , yeah that's awesome yeah , that was .
Speaker 2It was really fun . They were great people to work with and I I can't think of their initial CSI , csi , csi . I'm sorry guys , but anyway , go watch the movie Harsin's Island Revenge . It's playing in Alpena until May 1st , I believe .
Speaker 1Hot dog . Wait , tomorrow's May 1st , isn't it ?
Speaker 2Is it no ? Thursday is May 1st , yeah .
Speaker 1How many days are in April for ?
Speaker 2God's sakes A lot .
Speaker 1A lot Hear that out there . Mm-hmm , oh , never mind oh that's not thunder , that's a truck . That's a Roseanne supporter .
Speaker 2Probably Okay , anything else we got to cover .
Speaker 1I swear we're going to get this fixed .
Speaker 2We're going to have next time . It's going to be technically so beautiful .
Speaker 1Well , we'll see , all right , All right , thanks everybody .
Speaker 2Okay , bye .
Speaker 1Bye .
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