Hero or Dick
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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick - S3., Ep. 16 - Ducks: From Corkscrews to Cultural Icons
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Ever wondered what's really going on beneath the surface of that seemingly innocent duck paddling across your local pond? Prepare to have your perceptions forever altered as Kate and KJ dive headfirst into the fascinating and occasionally shocking world of ducks.
Join us for another episode as we determine whether ducks ultimately deserve the title of Hero or Dick!
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Podcast Introduction and Listener Feedback
Speaker 1Hi , kate , hi , how are you Good ?
Speaker 2Hi KJ .
Speaker 1Welcome , dear listeners , to another episode of Heroic .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Yay , when are we at Kate ? What is it ? Episode .
Speaker 2It's season three , episode 16 .
Speaker 1It is .
Speaker 2It is .
Speaker 1Three glorious seasons .
Speaker 2That's a lot .
Speaker 1Speaking of seasons , and I have to be careful because we've had some viewer mail and comments that I've got to get to . But I've got to be careful not to follow my synapses sometimes and jump from topic to topic because there are a few viewers , such as Nobody views us .
Speaker 1I mean listener Dorothy , a listener from southeastern Michigan who sent a comment that said that one of us , being me , should find a different line of work , because I can't stay on topic and I jump all over and I'm not prepared . I don't see that . But I have to say to Dorothy go fuck yourself . I'm just kidding . No , I appreciate the feedback , but this isn't my job . I don't really care . We do it for fun .
Speaker 1We do it for fun , and the reason my brain jumps around is because I don't get a chance to this is where you can we talk . This is Kate and I . This is our therapy session .
Speaker 2We're having a wrap session .
Speaker 1Yeah , and you know it's funny , because how did we come about doing this ?
Speaker 2Well , let's see how did we come about , so I will give credit where credit is due Jenna , my Jenna and my daughter Jenna .
Speaker 1Hi Jenna , it's your Jenna .
Speaker 2And I were talking about stuff years ago and we said , oh , that would be fun to have a show . And you talk about things or people and decide if they're a hero or a dick , Because a lot of people and things that you think are heroes are not . So thank you , Jenna , for giving us the idea .
Speaker 1Yeah , jenna thanks .
Speaker 2And then we're like we're going to do a podcast and then we didn't . And you know she's in Grand Rapids , I'm here , and so sometimes just proximity of it . And so you and I met up at a mutual friend's kids' graduation party .
Speaker 1Oh yes , we did .
Speaker 2Thank you mutual friends , thank you , mutual friends and I was telling you about it , and then we got together because you were telling me about crypto . I need to learn about crypto which . I still don't know about crypto .
Speaker 1Well , you're in it , though you rolled up in a Bentley today . So I think she must be going okay , gmc Bentley . Gmc Bentley . No , and one of the reasons that it was always on my mind is because I always had friends that said hey , yeah , let's do it , and so I always got geeked about doing it , but nobody would ever do that .
Speaker 2Nobody does that . And then , when we us knew , but you figured it out , it's easy , so good for you .
Speaker 1And then another viewer I mean another audience member , daniel from Oregon . He has sets here . Danny , yeah , I really appreciate your podcast . Kate does a fantastic job . Kj doesn't know what he's doing . I like when you guys talk about music , kudos , especially on the Rush podcast . People do love Rush . So there you go , I think .
Speaker 2Rush .
Speaker 1But I'm getting beat to hell and that's okay . Where are you getting ?
Speaker 2beat to hell .
Speaker 1Well , all these letters we're getting , but anyway , today
Duck Biology and Classifications
Speaker 1is one of and it's not really a favorite topic . I do like ducks .
Speaker 2Ducks is our topic . Ducks Because now , let's say , we're still going to do chickens , but our chicken experts are having some issues . You know we can't get them .
Speaker 1Oh , I'm jumping back though Seasonal . We were talking about seasonal .
Speaker 2Oh , seasonal , yeah , we have some seasonal beverages .
Speaker 1We do what's mine called . I'm going to lie , mine's not seasonal . Oh , mine is . I don't think it is Kate's drinking a white pumpkin , ah it's delicious White pumpkin .
Speaker 2I don't know why it's white .
Speaker 1Because there's white chocolate in it .
Speaker 2Oh , maybe there's green , because there's white chocolate in it , oh okay , mine's the spotted owl . Okay , what is that ? What's in the ?
Speaker 1nut ? I don't remember , but I know I like it . Owl pee I know there's caffeine in it . Man , the buzz is here . I'm going to ignore it though .
Speaker 2It's not even happening .
Speaker 1Okay , so ducks , they belong to the Anitidae family , along geese and swans .
Speaker 2Yes , I want to give you something too .
Speaker 1What is it ? Oh , look at that . She's presenting to me a miniature rubber duck , ducky yeah , which is later in the podcast . It does , it squeaks . Thank you , man , I never give you anything .
Speaker 2Well , I got you coffee , you got me coffee , I give you ducks .
Speaker 1So this could be our new mascot .
Speaker 2The little mini ducks . Oh , that was a good squeaking All right , buddy , we'll figure it out .
Speaker 1Oh , there you go . If you have an idea for a name for the duck there , daniel and Dorothy , yeah , Give us some duck names , Well you already have the email address and my phone number because you keep leaving prank calls . But it's heroordick2023 at gmailcom .
Speaker 2Dot com , give us a duck name .
Speaker 1A duck name , please it can rhyme with duck . Yeah , it can be Okay . Fossil evidence shows that duck-like birds have existed for 50 million years .
Speaker 2Wow , so are they kind of dinosaurs .
Speaker 1They sure sound like it . Well , what's that thing with the ? Oh , that's a platypus . Platypus , never mind , that's a different topic . The mallard is the ancestor of most domesticated ducks .
Speaker 2Okay .
Speaker 1And so they said that ducks were domesticated in China more than 30 . 2,000 years ago , obviously . I see that For food Yep Meat eggs P . I see that .
Speaker 2For food Meat , eggs feathers Love the feathers . Oh yeah , use the feathers . Every continent except Antarctica has ducks on it .
Speaker 1Why doesn't Antarctica have ducks ? I bet you did at one time .
Speaker 2Maybe it wasn't even a continent . There's three kinds of ducks that I found Dabbling ducks I love that .
Speaker 1That's the mallard , the wood .
Speaker 2Yep Teal pintail . Teal pintail they feed on the surface .
Speaker 1What's a widgeon ?
Speaker 2I'm not sure .
Speaker 1I think it's a pigeon and a gadwell .
Speaker 2And then there's diving ducks which they forage underwater Canvas bag , bufflehead , redhead , ringtail ducks .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's the last kind , or is that ?
Speaker 2a diving duck . Those are diving .
Speaker 1What's the other type ?
Speaker 2Dabbling , diving and then tree ducks .
Speaker 1They nest in trees . I thought there was only one . I thought the wood duck is the only one that did that .
Speaker 2The wood duck nests in trees . So does the whistling .
Speaker 1Oh , you know what ? You went worldwide , I guess .
Speaker 2And the black belly whistling .
Speaker 1I went US only .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , I'm international .
Speaker 1I'm trying to make ducks great again by focusing only on the United States of America .
Speaker 2I know that we live in an international world .
Speaker 1We don't .
Speaker 2Kate , and we'll not look at US only .
Speaker 1Wait till I start bringing my ducks from other states into other states to protect people .
Speaker 2To protect ducks .
Speaker 1All right , sorry about that . I like that , though . Dabbling ducks , diving ducks , and Tree ducks , tree ducks , tree , hmm , mm-hmm , they're omnivores , by the way .
Speaker 2Omnivores . They'll eat whatever .
Speaker 1They don't care Plants insects , crustaceans , fish , frogs , even small mammals or birds . Wow , they're opportunistic .
Speaker 2I've never really seen a duck chow down on a mouse .
Speaker 1They do . I mean they will If they're in the water and they're chilling out with their bros or their hoes . Oh wait , female Whatever . That's a whole topic too , coming up with the male-female thing , oh my gosh .
Speaker 2So if a mouse is swimming alone ? I don't know how much you know about this , but it was quite shocking , horrible .
Duck Reproduction and Surprising Anatomy
Speaker 1Some of those ducks should be put in jail . They're rapists . They're rapist ducks . They're rapists . They're rapists . They say forced copulation , but it's rape , duck rape . It's duck rape , fucking duck rape man .
Speaker 2Should we talk about that right ?
Speaker 1now I guess it makes me uncomfortable , so you take it .
Speaker 2I want to tell you this was the most shocking thing I found about ducks Was that their genitalia is corkscrew shaped . Oh God and I know we don't like to get into a lot- of you know sexual stuff , but what corkscrew shape . And it can be as long as their body and it can be regrown every year . Why do you need to regrow ?
Speaker 1it ? Well , because it's a corkscrew dick and it gets stuck .
Speaker 2Yes , it gets stuck . Here's the whole thing , how can ?
Speaker 1and I know .
Speaker 2And one more thing about the genitalia . Oh shit , it can unfurl in the fraction of a second .
Speaker 1Kate's true colors are coming through here . Fraction of a second people .
Speaker 2I'm glad I've never seen that and I hope to never see that .
Speaker 1And I'm assuming that I don't even think humans have sex for fun anymore after you hit a certain age . But , like , the animals don't typically get joy out of it , and there's no joy for either one of this . Well , no , because you're sticking your private into another private .
Speaker 2Your corkscrew private .
Speaker 1And it's getting stuck , breaks off or whatever . I suppose every year I don't know what's going on . But yeah , when I read about the forced copulation and then the corkscrew peckle .
Speaker 2But then the females they're like fine , here's what we're going to do . Here we go . We have a complex , maze-like vagina .
Speaker 1They don't want no scrubs .
Speaker 2Or corkscrews and they have dead-end pockets where they store the sperm from the dudes and then they just keep the sperm that they approve of , I'm sorry and then they get rid of the sperm from the duds . Who knew that ducks had this going on ? They look like a cute little duck waddling around .
Speaker 1They got a whole other thing happening the duck vagina is a labyrinth and the male thing is a corkscrew . That's fascinating .
Speaker 2And scary .
Speaker 1I guess they adapted as they had to .
Speaker 2Now , this fact now makes sense too . They sleep with one eye open , as Metallica says Holding their pillow tight .
Speaker 1Yep , that's great .
Speaker 2Because they have to , because they have predators themselves but , other predators too , and so they also have three eyelids , and one is like a clear membrane , like goggles , really yeah .
Speaker 1That's awesome so .
Speaker 2I suppose the diving ducks need that so they can dive Really . Yeah , that's awesome . So I suppose the diving ducks need that so they can dive , but then they only use , so they sleep with one eye open . They only use half of their brain . Me too , right , dorothy so half of it is sleeping , half of it is looking for predators , half of it is thinking about corkscrew gematelia .
Speaker 1It's kind of a cool life , I'm just kidding . It's kind of a cool life , I'm just kidding . It's something that we've noticed . I'm never going to look at a duck the same way you ever notice when you're by the lake or river , like the mallards , the males they're all like hanging out together and then you'll see like a single female all by herself . More often than not you see the males grouped together and not the females . I should have looked into that .
Speaker 2I more often than not you see the males group together and not the females .
Speaker 1I should have looked into that . I know they don't mate for life . They do not . Huh , geese , do right .
Speaker 2I looked up loons too , but they don't . I don't know if geese do .
Speaker 1Well , we'll have to get into that next time .
Speaker 2So what else about ducks ? Their feet don't get cold because of their circulatory system keeps their heat from escaping , so they can swim in the cold water , and they also have waterproof feathers , which again so they can swim in cold water . What's a group of ducks called ?
Speaker 1Gaggle .
Speaker 2No , that's geese .
Speaker 1Okay , what is it ? A flock ? Oh , that makes sense , yeah .
Speaker 2If they're walking , they're a waddling group . If they're swimming , the group is called a raft , or if they're in air , they're called a team . Which do we really need that much ?
Speaker 1No , I don't think the ducks do either . I don't think so . Why do we make it so complicated ?
Speaker 2I don't know .
Speaker 1We're humans that's why 2,000 duck farms Wow In the United States , mainly in Indiana , wisconsin and your former home state California .
Speaker 2I did live in California .
Speaker 1I remember these things , kate . 95% of the ducks raised for meat are the Peking's duck . Chinese Yep , have you liked duck ?
Speaker 2So my dad was a big duck hunter . Big duck hunter . We had duck decoys . We actually had a room in our house with decorative duck decoys that we called the duck room that's cool In my mom and dad's house . He was really into it and I hated duck . I mean , they would cook duck and it's like , yeah , I did not care for it .
Speaker 1I don't think I've ever had it .
Speaker 2However , I have had it since that . It has been really good . I've had it a couple times and we did have it when we went to China . It was delicious and I had it a couple times in a fancy restaurant where it was really really good . But you know , I don't know the ducks that my dad was cooking , too gamey , yeah , greasy . Not greasy , but kind of dry , kind of livery , I don't know , too gamey yeah .
Speaker 1I can tell by the look on your face you didn't enjoy it .
Speaker 2No , no , did not like them .
Speaker 1Duck eggs .
Speaker 2Duck eggs .
Speaker 1They're supposed to be a little richer and they're better for baking . Yes , they're supposed to be a little richer and they're better for baking .
Speaker 2Yes , I had creme brulee that my sister-in-law made with duck eggs and it was delicious Nice , very rich and delicious Because they're a little bit bigger , but I think they're yolkier too . They're like their yolk is richer .
Speaker 1What else you got on basics ?
Speaker 2Oh , ducks , ducks , ducks . So some famous ducks . Yeah , of course . Who's the most famous duck , do you think ?
Speaker 1Donald .
Speaker 2I'm going to say Donald .
Speaker 1Then you got Daffy .
Speaker 2Well , daffy Duck , sure he's great . With Donald comes his girlfriend Daisy , his twin sister Della .
Speaker 1Oh Huey .
Speaker 2Louie , Mom to Huey , Dewey and Louie . Oh , and then what's that duck ?
Speaker 1that's the Scrooge .
Speaker 2Scrooge Duck . Scrooge Duck Is that all it is ? I can't believe that's his name , yeah .
Speaker 1Then there was Howard the Duck .
Speaker 2Howard the Duck , disco Duck . How about Affleck
Famous Ducks in Pop Culture
Speaker 2Duck ?
Speaker 1Oh yes .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Nice Duck , oh yes .
Speaker 2Nice job With Godfrey Gilbert , godfrey's voice . I loved him . How about , like ? Sitting in front of us is a traditional rubber ducky .
Speaker 1Yes .
Speaker 2And Ernie on Sesame Street .
Speaker 1That was his song .
Speaker 2That was his song and his buddy .
Speaker 1It was a top 40 hit .
Speaker 2It was .
Speaker 1And so was what you just mentioned Disco Duck Jim .
Speaker 2Hudson sang it . It reached number six on the billboard in 1970 . That's impressive . Robert Ducky , I love you , is that ?
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2Disco Duck .
Speaker 1Rick Dees , 1976 . Sad , sad . Then there was Kid's Song Six Little Ducks , five Little Ducks . Lots of kids' books too Ugly Duckling .
Speaker 2They don't know about the genitalia apparently .
Speaker 1No .
Speaker 2There's lots of kids' books .
Speaker 1Make Way for Ducklings that are about ducks .
Speaker 2Lucky Ducky and Drakey Lakey .
Speaker 1Oh yeah .
Speaker 2And from Henny Penny .
Speaker 1There's a .
Speaker 2Jemima Puddle Duck .
Speaker 1Jemima Puddle Duck .
Speaker 2She has her own tales . What ? Yeah , it's a kid's book , that's nice . And then a classic . One of my favorite books Make Way for Ducklings by Robert .
Speaker 1Malkowski .
Speaker 2That's such a good book . Another good kid's book is the Story About Ping , about a duck that lives on the Yangtze River in China . Very good book by Marjorie Flack .
Speaker 1There's some creation myths that were pretty cool . Native American stories where a diving duck brings up mud from beneath the water to form the earth . That's awesome .
Speaker 2It's more believable than , say , the Bible .
Speaker 1Is it Could be , yeah , native Americans , obviously . I say obviously because they're actually in tune with the world . Ducks symbolize survival , obviously , migration and balance . I like ducks . I actually have a little brass-looking duck that I found somewhere at a garage sale or something you know . Sometimes you're walking through and something just speaks to you . That duck spoke to you . No , it did . It said hey .
Speaker 2What did it say ? Did it say quack ?
Speaker 1No , only females say quack . Quacks do not echo . That is a myth . People thought it was like I mean they do echo . People said that a quack doesn't echo .
Speaker 2Why would it it echo ? I don't know , I mean in the right circumstance , people would say .
Speaker 1But anyway , the duck is sitting on my fireplace , mantel Is it a lucky duck . I like to think so Once in a while . I give it a little rub , Rub my duck .
Speaker 2Rub your duck in that .
Speaker 1Rubber ducky , I love you .
Speaker 2We did have a kid's game called Lucky Ducks . That is the only one of the only toys . I had to throw it away when Jenna wasn't looking . It was cute . It was like they went around in a circle and you had to pick them up and match the colors . But the whole time I was going whack , whack , whack , whack , whack , I tried putting tape over it Whack , whack , whack whack . I tried no , turning it down . I tried everything .
Speaker 1You couldn't put the batteries in , you got a good quack .
Speaker 2You couldn't get it going around in the circle without them quacking . And then one day Jenna said Mom , where's my lucky duck game ? I'm like huh , I don't know , I knew .
Speaker 1You did know .
Speaker 2I admitted it to her how long after . Oh , just a little while ago . I'm sure she knew .
Speaker 1Back to your dad and the hunting . Did he do his own calls and stuff ?
Speaker 2Oh yeah , we had lots of calls .
Speaker 1That's cool .
Speaker 2That's why I can talk so well .
Speaker 1Inuits . They had some stories that were pretty cool . They thought that ducks were messengers between the living and the spirit world . I think that's cool too . I like weird shit , though . Some stories were pretty cool . They thought that ducks were messengers between the living and the spirit world . Oh , I think that's cool too . I like weird shit though .
Speaker 2Did they eat ducks too , though ? Probably , Because then are you eating an ancestor who's gay . Here's a message .
Speaker 1Well , I don't know if they .
Speaker 2Have a bite .
Speaker 1I don't know if they meant that they were the spirit , but you know how , like sparrows and whatever , are symbolic of transition to the spirit world . Okay , then the Celts , your favorites . I like the Celts . They thought the same thing , kind of they represented guides to the other world . So there's just some stuff going on there . I got
Duck Symbolism and Cultural Significance
Speaker 1a little lisp today . I apologize .
Speaker 2And then you got a totally different Mighty Ducks .
Speaker 1I forgot to mention . Oh , yes , emilio Estevez , yes , mighty Ducks 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 . First one was pretty good , but I bet if you watched it now it wouldn't be .
Speaker 2No , I don't know . I don't know .
Speaker 1You know what I mean .
Speaker 2Yeah , but there's an actual team named the Mighty Ducks too .
Speaker 1Oh , I'm sorry , but they're still around . Yeah , anaheim , right .
Speaker 2Anaheim yeah .
Speaker 1Maybe not .
Speaker 2And then , how about ducks in video games ? Remember this classic Duck Hunt ? Oh yeah , yeah , hours spent .
Speaker 1Killing the ducks .
Speaker 2Without killing the real ducks .
Speaker 1And then there's a survival game where the players are the ducks , called duck side . Never heard of it . I've never played it , but I would um mandarin ducks , sorry , those are gifted at weddings , usually in chinese culture oh okay , I'm just the wedding duck , yeah , duck . It's supposed to be like eternal love and fidelity , even though apparently you said ducks do not mate for life .
Speaker 2They do not mate for life .
Speaker 1Because they're .
Speaker 2Let's not get back into that . We're not talking about that anymore . Yep .
Speaker 1People , we're going to get canceled . Canceled , your rubber ducks there . They originated in the 1800s oh , I can't get a square . They were mass produced in the 20th century and giant rubber ducks are used in parades , protests and art installations you know there was oh , I can't get it to squeak good job thank you there was the giant rubber duck was in Alpena a few years ago it was . It was pretty fucking amazing . It was a few years ago , it was , it was pretty fucking amazing .
Speaker 2It was a couple years ago now . I thought it was amazing . It was like a huge rubber duck , I don't know .
Speaker 1Can't beat a big rubber duck .
Speaker 2No , I couldn't beat it . You can punch it .
Speaker 1The Jeep . Thing .
Speaker 2I don't understand that and I asked the Jeep owner .
Speaker 1I've talked to people and they don't like it either .
Speaker 2I'm like what's the deal with the ?
Speaker 1ducks , no offense . No , if you want to do it . Daniel , the guy that wrote a note is a Jeep guy .
Speaker 2But I asked a Jeep owner and he's like I don't really know .
Speaker 1Well , according to this Okay , it says and this doesn't seem right because it doesn't seem that long ago it supposedly began in Ontario , canada , in 2020 . A Jeep driver left a rubber duck on another Jeep to spread cheer .
Speaker 2Oh Okay .
Speaker 1But I know some people and they're like God .
Speaker 2They leave these ducks on my , I don't want a duck , quit leaving a fucking duck there .
Speaker 1And then you see some Jeeps and good for whatever , and they got a whole bunch of them . It's like they're driving in a pile of ducks . Yeah , they're driving in a pile of ducks . And then they do that hand thing , don't they ? If you have a Jeep , you do it out the window .
Speaker 2Do they have a special ? So do VW drivers , and so do motorcyclists . Yeah , they do . The low , the low wave , the low wave . I don't . People with GMCs , on course we don't have a special . No , sometimes people give me the finger which one ? The middle one ?
Speaker 1Nobody does that to you . Oh yeah , they do . Is that when you're throwing ?
Speaker 2your trash out the window . I would never do that .
Speaker 1I would never do that , but those it's funny . Not funny , it's interesting because people , what the fuck ? You got another duck .
Speaker 2There's been two all along . Are you kidding me ?
Speaker 1right now . I just looked down and there's two . They're reproducing . Get that one away from the other one . Just keep them apart . I don't want to , so no , but like these folks , you know , oh , I drive a Jeep . We have this camaraderie . It could be a serial killer , but you're just like , hey , here's a duck , hey , here's a duck , but we , I'm not knocking a Jeep either .
Speaker 2I've driven a couple of them . I loved them . I had a Jeep . Love , love , loved them . Yeah , mm-hmm , I drove my Jeep Cherokee so long .
Speaker 1Yeah , you had a long time .
Speaker 2you said that I had a hole in the floorboard .
Speaker 1Just getting broken .
Speaker 2And there was a mat over it , and so it was fine .
Speaker 1Mm-hmm , they're fun . Mine was an old CJ5 . Oh wow , and it had three on the tree .
Speaker 2Oh , and only three . You only need three gears .
Speaker 1That's all you get Three speed shifter on the column and the floor was rotted out and I'm no kidding , it had two by fours wedged underneath the body to keep it on the yeah , but I loved it . And a guy came by this was years ago . I was sitting on the yard at my folks' house while I was visiting and he stopped and he's like hey , is that for sale ? I said maybe , and he offered me more than I paid for it .
Speaker 1I believe that but then I look back and I'm like it was a CJ5 , three on the tree . It had a chrome dash , it probably was , so he probably was putting it together .
Speaker 2When I had my Jeep Cherokee , I replaced it with a Jeep
Rubber Ducks and Jeep Culture
Speaker 2Grand Cherokee . My mom got a new car so I got her car . I know I was like whoa . It was like , yeah , very bougie compared to the other one . So when I was selling that Jeep , I mean I couldn't believe how much money I got for it . It was four-wheel drive .
Speaker 1It had a hole in the floorboard , the Cherokees especially . But they didn't care that type were really popular , they still are People try to find those .
Speaker 2Enough about Jeeps .
Speaker 1How did you get out of the Jeeps , though , because once people are in them , they stay in them .
Speaker 2Well , I want to tell you that I went to the Jeep dealer when it was time to buy a new vehicle , and nobody would wait on me , oh boy .
Speaker 1Oh , I know , and so I went to GMC and they were falling all over themselves to sell me a car , and so I bought my last four or five cars from there . We can give a shout-out to Opina GMC Buick , because I too have had great experiences there .
Speaker 2Steve Bruschi in the service department . I mean , he always guides me as to what to buy .
Speaker 1The young plowman there , Colby , I think his name is . I don't know him .
Speaker 2He's really good Actual salesperson , good stuff , but yeah , they're very good , they have been great and I hope to continue to buy from them . We'll see .
Speaker 1I mean , I didn't buy myself a car there , I bought my kid one there . That's all right yeah .
Speaker 2Okay , so back to ducks . I just want to say the other thing I noticed when I was researching ducks was that there's a lot of words that have duck in them .
Speaker 1Yes .
Speaker 2Do it . Did you do that too ?
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2Duck pin . What is that ? What is that ? It's a short squat bowling pin .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , isn't that the ? They play that over on the East Coast duck pin bowling .
Speaker 2Yeah yeah , it's just a different type of bowling . How about geoduck ?
Speaker 1That's not on my list .
Speaker 2The world's largest burrowing clam is called a geoduck . Why , I don't know .
Speaker 1I guess I didn't research it that much . That's really cool , though . See , the duck is so cool that another animal got its name From the duck .
Speaker 2Yeah , Maybe it spirals down in the mud .
Speaker 1Oh boy , and gets caught in the chamber .
Speaker 2How about British duckies If they say hey , ducky , what that means darling or dear .
Speaker 1Oh , okay .
Speaker 2Hey , ducky Duck boots . Oh , my God , you know duck boots . Sure , yeah , like an LL Bean type of boot . Yeah , you got any duck boots in your closet ? Yeah , you know what I do . I do . I wear them too . They're waterproof , that's why they're good . A little stiff , aren't they ? Yeah , they are . You know they're hard to put on , but that's why they're good , because they're waterproof and they don't let the water in . How about a duck tail .
Speaker 1Yeah , like Fonzie , didn't he have a duck tail , he did yeah .
Speaker 2Pompadour is another name for it , it is . Yeah , hmm , duck Walk .
Speaker 1Yeah , I've heard of that one , chuck Berry . Mm-hmm .
Speaker 2Playing his guitar . Duck Weed Yep Is a . You say that , what is it ?
Speaker 1Is it a weed ? It is a weed Like on top of a pond .
Speaker 2It's a yeah , they called it a water lentil Yep , which makes me want to try to eat it With duck . With duck .
Speaker 1Mm-hmm , duck With duck . Oh my gosh , I wonder if they do pair those .
Speaker 2I don't know . I might say it's kind of swampy Maybe . And then on the last one I found was a duck board , which is it makes total sense . It's like the boardwalk that you put down in a swampy area .
Speaker 1Okay .
Speaker 2You know , like , think of a national park , like where the geysers are . Yellowstone . They have a duck board going along yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah , even though ducks probably don't care .
Speaker 2They don't care if it's named after them .
Speaker 1They don't even care if that board is there .
Speaker 2I don't think they're walking in , that it's hot , I mean where I'm thinking but , like the geyser , anything else ? Anything else about ducks ? Yeah , there's some phrases , what's ?
Speaker 1a sitting duck . Oh what is that ? That means you're just waiting to get easy target easy duck and cover .
Speaker 2Oh , duck and cover , okay water off a duck's back that means just , you don't pay .
Speaker 1No , never mind like a duck to water .
Speaker 2That means you take to it .
Speaker 1Yep , and then one of them , I don't know , I was going to say one of my grandma's favorites . Oh , fuck a duck .
Speaker 2Fuck a duck . I really haven't heard that one .
Speaker 1No , it's a new one . Okay , she made it up . There are some duck festivals . There's the Duck Fest in Texas . It celebrates hunting season with food . There's the Duck Fest in . Texas that celebrates hunting season , with food contests and live music . Who plays there ? Probably ?
Speaker 2Garth Brooks .
Speaker 1Probably not .
Speaker 2The Great Duck Races , Arkansas , New Mexico and there's a lot of rubber duck races in places all over , yeah .
Speaker 1Small town , we do it .
Speaker 2We used to . I don't know as long as you can get all the ducks when you're done , then you number the bottom of them and it's like , oh , number two won .
Speaker 1Then you go to the fair and they have them floating around .
Speaker 2That's the lucky ducks game .
Speaker 1Maryland has the Duck Decoy Festival . Oh , my dad would have enjoyed that . Hunting , traditions and artistry Maryland has the Duck Decoy Festival . Oh , honoring my dad would have enjoyed that . Yep haunting traditions and artistry because it is an art .
Speaker 2Those decoys , it is art . We have some that are beautifully done beautifully . They had gorgeous ones . Some are worth a lot of money too Not the ones that I have , but you know some are .
Speaker 1And then Minnesota actually does a combination festival . It's called the Turtle and Duck Festival .
Speaker 2Well , what do they have in common ?
Speaker 1Water .
Speaker 2I guess they're both good eating . I don't know , I don't know have you had turtle , they're really not . Neither one of them are good eating . They have that in common , yeah .
Speaker 1I haven't had turtle . I haven't had duck . I haven't had duck . I don't know what I'm talking about .
Speaker 2You haven't had duck . You need to try it .
Speaker 1I don't think I want to , not after .
Speaker 2Well , don't eat all of the duck .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah , if you go to a fancy restaurant and they have duck on the menu , you should order it .
Speaker 1It's expensive , isn't it ? I just I get nervous about trying new things at a restaurant . Well , here's how I tried it . This
Duck Phrases and Festivals
Speaker 1worked out perfect .
Speaker 2We went out to eat with a cousin and his wife Ted .
Speaker 1Nugent right . Oh , my God no , I thought he was your cousin , oh my God , I am not , even not related to that guy . He can play guitar good . I don't even I don't know Okay .
Speaker 2You got me all worked up here .
Speaker 1I'm so sorry . I apologize . She's like red in the face . I can see a vein on her forehead the cousin was .
Speaker 2So Chris is the cousin . And he said you are going to love this duck , you should order the duck . Order the duck , order the duck . And I'm like I don't know . And he like I don't know . And he said I'll tell you what . I am so confident that you will like this duck . Tell me what your second choice is , or tell me what you were going to order . I will order that and if you don't like the duck , I'll switch with you . Which that was great .
Speaker 1That was awesome .
Speaker 2You know what ? I ate the duck , I can't even remember what he had .
Speaker 1What was your second favorite ? I don't know , probably shrimp Shrimp .
Speaker 2I love the shrimp .
Speaker 1I have some odd and fascinating facts , though . Please tell me . You know . I hope my microphone is Working . It is , it's got to be , and if not better for some people , I guess Ducks can see in UV light and they have 360-degree vision , vision which now makes sense for the females anyway , if you're watching um and here , oh yeah , the wood duck nests in trees and perches on branches .
Speaker 2Okay , we knew yeah , and you never really expect to see a duck in a tree , no , but you could you ever see a turkey in a tree ? Yeah , it's weird blows your mind yeah , so what the hell is that ? We had turkeys that are at our other house , because we lived in the woods and every now and then there'd be one way up in the tree Huh .
Speaker 1The blue-winged teal . It will migrate thousands of miles from Canada to South America . Wow .
Speaker 2That's a long way , that's a long time .
Speaker 1Sounds like a pretty duck too . Teal it's because the teal is in there . Yeah , the duck stamp program actually has funded billions for habitat preservation .
Speaker 2Ducks Unlimited man . That's pretty cool . They give a lot of money , a lot of money . We had some duck prints too . I think we still have some from the duck room .
Speaker 1You get many ducks out there . Oh , yeah , yeah , I bet Comerants .
Speaker 2They're kind of a hated duck .
Speaker 1I know , but why they're just doing their job .
Speaker 2They are , but I think they chased all the other ducks away or they ate all of some species of fish or something . I'm not really sure it's evolution , but yeah , we get ducks .
Speaker 1Yeah , we got some too . We had a mama duck out there with baby ones , you know . Yeah , we got some too . We had a mama duck out there with baby ones , you know . And then one day the mama duck was just on our dock freaking out . I was like what happened ? No babies all day .
Speaker 2Oh no .
Speaker 1But then a day or two later there's all the little ones again .
Speaker 2So she must have been like talking to them from the Stay over there .
Speaker 1Yeah , and I just saw them not too long ago . They're still hanging out , they're getting big . But I like a duck , but now I don't know my duck , I don't know .
Speaker 2So what do you say ? Are ducks heroes or ducks ?
Speaker 1I mean , that's kind of some dickish thing I mean wow , but it's nature .
Speaker 2I don't know , it's nature . You know , nature knows , she knows .
Speaker 1But they've been around for however long . I said , you know it's heroic .
Speaker 2They get shot . I have nothing against them . Right In my book they're really neither a hero or a dick . They're just kind of there . I think they , yeah , they did some dickish things . But yeah , I like some of the stories about them .
Speaker 1What about Donald Duck ? Do you think he's a hero ? I think he's a dick .
Speaker 2I think he's a dick too . He's a big dick . Daffy Duck , Put some pants on .
Speaker 1Yeah , what the hell is that ? No pants .
Speaker 2I know .
Speaker 1Wait , Daffy's got no pants . You like Daffy ? Daffy doesn't have any clothes on . He's a his duck , that's just his duck .
Speaker 2Whereas Donald and his whole family they're wearing shirts .
Speaker 1If you're going to put a shirt on , put some pants on too .
Speaker 2He's dressed like a sailor , isn't he ? Yeah ?
Speaker 1What a dick he's like . What a dick .
Speaker 2Oh , there you go . You ruined it for all ducks , donald . Thanks Donald .
Speaker 1Can't do it . I don't know .
Speaker 2What else you
Final Duck Facts and Verdict
Speaker 2got ? Rubber duckies are cute , though I'll give them that they are . They are cute . Is this a squeak ? I can't do it . I do have fast five .
Speaker 1Totally unrelated to ducks . Okay , so the verdict on ducks is hero for me . I say neither she's supposed to pick , but that's okay .
Speaker 2I'm going to say Do it , do it . Say it Hick , hick , oh God , all right . Okay , here's fast five . Totally unrelated to dicks , I mean ducks . Was that a Freudian slip ?
Speaker 1Yeah , you're thinking about the old corkscrew . That's not good .
Speaker 2I can't get past the corkscrew now this one . I can't Every time I look at a duck .
Speaker 1This one is not going to get uploaded . Wait now , you wait for the message . Yeah , I'm going to have a batch of mail to read to you next time . Okay , I didn't even bring all of them this time .
Speaker 2Okay , I have the email on my phone , but whatever , I have it too , do you yeah , do you Okay ?
Speaker 1They've got my phone number too .
Speaker 2Oh All right . Okay , fast five Solitaire .
Speaker 1Hero .
Speaker 2Video Solitaire or cards .
Speaker 1Cards .
Speaker 2Yeah , like manual . Yeah , how about ?
Speaker 1throw pillows . Oh hero , I love pillows , just every pillow . We've got a problem in the home . Last night , actually , my wife thought it was real funny because I got an extra pillow for bed and I came to bed and she was all snuggled in bed on her phone and I said where's my pillow ? And she's like what are you talking about ? I said I swear to God , I put another pillow in there and a little while later I just put my head down . She started laughing and she threw it at me . But even at night , like I'll put a pillow on my lap , I don't know .
Speaker 2Now just to be clear , that's not a throw pillow . A throw pillow is a decorative pillow .
Speaker 1Yeah , like a couch pillow . Yeah , like a couch . Yeah , I like those . You can't stop me , I like pillows .
Speaker 2Oh really All right , you're pillow pro pillow .
Speaker 1I am pro pillow .
Speaker 2How about berets ? Oh God , no Beret . You say no . I just I knitted one , that's why .
Speaker 1I say A .
Speaker 2I say the one I knitted is a hero . Okay , I'll say how about military ones , though when the military is wearing a beret , I'm like I don't know . Are you guys really that tough ?
Speaker 1See , when I think beret , I think the person doing a fucking poetry reading and I just want to slip my own throat . Okay , that's just one beret . Sorry , I'm calming down . I don't like them , dick . Okay , but that's no disrespect to the military or the fact that people make them . Kate , I get it . I appreciate everybody's efforts .
Speaker 2All right . How about jigsaw puzzles ? Oh Hero .
Speaker 1Heroes , jigsaw puzzles . Oh , hero , heroes . Sometimes it can keep my family busy for a long time .
Speaker 2Sometimes , I don't do puzzles 1,000 piece or 500 ?
Speaker 1500 .
Speaker 2Yeah , 1,000 is a commitment .
Speaker 1It is . They make them bigger . Oh shit , do they Shit ? Yeah , they do . Do you have a puzzle mat ?
Speaker 2No oh . They're pretty handy , but I would guess they are . I know people who have puzzle not just puzzle tables , like tables to make a puzzle , but it's specifically for a puzzle and then it's got like the ridges around it and it's got some other stuff . I mean it's specifically made for you to do a jigsaw puzzle on .
Speaker 1That's nice . Do you ever shellac a puzzle ?
Speaker 2I have not , well , I probably have in my past .
Speaker 1Hang it on your wall , but I have none .
Speaker 2I remember Cassidy had a Mr T puzzle . That was pretty awesome . Hey , is he still ?
Speaker 1Oh , yeah , he's still that would be a good topic too . Yeah , Okay , what else you got ?
Speaker 2The 555 is Fast , five is baseball . Wow , dead silence .
Speaker 1Ah , hero , I suppose I don't want to piss off America . I can take it or leave it , but to go and watch a game , that's pretty cool . Yeah , I like watching them in person quite a bit .
Speaker 2Yeah , when I think of baseball too , I think of my grandpa listening to the baseball game on the radio , and so for that I'm going to say hero .
Speaker 1Yeah , and that was an art form . Baseball is a great sport , don't get me wrong . Been around forever , it's America's sport . But yeah , the art form of the announcer announcing a game because you have a lot of dead time to fill .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , you do . You better know some stats .
Speaker 1That's a person who actually that is their job .
Speaker 2That is their job .
Speaker 1And they do research .
Speaker 2They're not talking about duck dicks . No , they're professional .
Speaker 1I think we maybe need to clean up the next podcast and have a wholesome . Maybe Mr T's not even a good one . Mr T is pretty wholesome . Ducks can be so dirty . Oh , dirty ducks , all right , okay , well , thanks everybody .
Speaker 2Well , thanks , sorry for listening .
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